Men act like we force them to date us

FuturePigeon · 2020-01-19T17:26:11+00:00

Allow me to tell you the tale of a friend. She's early 30's, an attorney, looks like Emma Stone's prettier sister, funny, kind and with the confidence of a supermodel.

Now let me tell you about Clint. Clint is late 40's, balding on top but kept the rest of his hair shoulder-length, with a potbelly and random tufts of body hair. Clint also had the confidence of a supermodel, although for no discernible reason. He didn't have a permanent place to stay, worked as a night clerk at a shady motel, no education, and made it a point to tell all the women in our troupe how sexy he thought we looked in our costumes.

Of course, Clint was convinced that he could win over the attorney if he just spent enough time around her, but when he did he was even creepier about making comments about the other dancers and subtly negging her.

Years passed in this holding point, and I was never able to have a conversation with him without it coming back to whether the attorney was into him. She ended up marrying a very famous musician, having a beautiful child and living the life she created. He's still looking for a permanent place to stay and reliving his glory days of dancing alongside her.

7_0f_9 · 2020-01-19T16:10:28+00:00

The women not working myth is a huge pet peeve of mine. I've studied a lot of women's history for my degree and the fact is that men have worked tirelessly to PREVENT us from working and becoming independent and any work we do is often dismissed as domestic duties rather than labor, as if these tasks are just expressions of our true female nature, rather than a type of slavery we've been coerced into. 🙄

Thank you for this post.

Unlikely-Marzipan · 2020-01-19T15:03:04+00:00

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MidnightCarp · 2020-01-19T15:19:33+00:00

Half of it is projecting, since a lot of male dating strategies such as TRP rely on deception. If you're a redpiller or a common fuckboy, you know you're going to make the life of anyone you date much worse, never give her what she needs, and just take whatever you get with no regard to what the outcome will be for her. Pretty much no one would want to date you if you were honest about what you expect to give and take. So you pretend to "maybe" be interested in commitment, future-fake, cheat and lie about it, manipulate women into thinking you're higher status or richer or more desired than you are.

It seems that these men instinctively think we would also somehow deceive them into dating us, because that's how they force women to date them (unfortunately this only works as long as women are naive or not paying attention to the fuckboy tells, lmao). But FDS doesn't advocate cheating or lying, because we are good partners who HVM would want to date even when we're open about who we are as people. The absolute worst manipulation they can find here is stuff like women briefly bluffing a nonjudgmental attitude towards porn in the early stages to figure out if they do watch porn (which we wouldn't need to do if men were honest about their porn use lol).

The second half is worrying that women will raise their standards more universally, so they'll have a harder time finding hookups and pickme girlfriends with no boundaries or needs. In this scenario they would be forced to date us if they wanted a partner, though we would still rather be gladly single than date someone who isn't actively happy to bring value to our lives.

2020-01-19T17:15:31+00:00

Next time a guy send me a dick pic i will say sorry your dick is a 2 and my vagina is an 8. They don't match

7_0f_9 · 2020-01-19T14:56:32+00:00

Yeah that looks matching frame of mind that they do..seems unnatural to me. I go more by how the person makes me feel

Mental-Pineapple · 2020-01-19T16:12:26+00:00

its because they cant obtain women with high standards (aka normal healthy standards) and now they are freaking out because OH NO what if the girl who lets me wipe dorito dust down her throat suddenly wisens up and listens to the whole FDS thing? Thats what they fear

Snowlamp · 2020-01-19T17:21:42+00:00

The main man whose actions brought me to this place was so manipulative he used the fact he thought men should pay for dinner to not date me properly.
He said if we were to go on proper dates he would want to pay, I earn 4 times his salary so I was all it's fine I can pay.
But nope he wanted to be a "gentleman" and pay and he will not go to dinner with me unless he pays.
Which he said he couldn't afford to do.... and that is one of the reasons he got away with sleeping with me for about 3 years and never taking me out in public.

He did however cook for me twice, because it was Christmas Day and I always had to go to his (shared) house, he couldn't afford a car to get to mine... my own house.

As time went on the negging started though, I was not attractive enough to go out with in public, thin enough (I am tiny, he is overweight and bald)... and the best one... he said I was too happy to date in public.

I wish I could go see past me and shake some sense into me! I was so stupid.

blackopium777 · 2020-01-19T17:24:32+00:00

I don't understand why those LVM even try to engage us in a "discussion". We don't care at ALL. We know what we want and it's not you, so why even bother? I don't go on TRP and message scrotes to force my opinion on them. They have their mind made up, it's just a waste of time. I prefer to spend my time with things that make me happy, not arguing with people who don't share my opinion at all. It's like they are desperate to put us back in the place, where we don't know about how terrible they are, so they get a chance with us.

siberiansummer · 2020-01-19T21:32:33+00:00

Just yesterday I had a brief discussion on r/purplepill where a guy said something along the lines that if a woman doesn’t put out he’d leave her (they were discussing FDS). To which I said that an FDS woman could care less if he left and it all would be good riddance to her. From talking to him I realized their take away on FDS is that we “play waiting games” while we still gladly drop panties for a Chad and we want to use men for money 🤦‍♀️ He kept bringing up that no man will stick around if woman withholds sex. They literally think it’s like our worst nightmare if a man leaves lol and he kept using it to scare me I guess. The truth is: if I never come across a HVM that I’m attracted to I have no problem being single for the rest of my life 🙂 I can have more emotional connection with my dildo than a FWB fuckboy

2020-01-20T04:00:41+00:00

Based on the messages I’ve received from male lurkers, men are terrified of women not only having and maintaining standards, but encouraging other women to do the same. They freak out. Maybe this is irrational and they could simply stop reading FDS if it bothers them. But it seems to strike some very deep chord. Maybe women finally waking up and saying no to the shit LVM put them through is every LVM’s biggest fear.

2020-01-19T18:49:10+00:00

think that they're a 5/10 when truly they're a 2 and think that they deserve a chance with 7s and 8s (because in their mind these girls are 5 so it's their "looksmatch") and then cry about these 7s going for a 7-8 guy who truly is their looksmatch and say "Girls like chads" lmao!

Hahahaha this is so accurate

littlecuterose · 2020-01-20T00:29:03+00:00

It’s soothe their wounded egos. It’s really better for them believe that we’re narcissistic women looking to take advantage of them because it’s better than the reality that we just don’t want them.

Unlikely-Marzipan · 2020-01-20T00:36:28+00:00

Exactly holy shit I have rejected so many "Chads". I like nice, handsome guys. I see a lot of incel garbage about how we are just a bunch of women who can't accept that we need to date someone who's in our league. Even if I was just a 5, I would have no problem dating another five. Except I'm not, I'm an 8+ I've been stopped in the street and stores multiple times by men and women telling me that I look like a model/pretty.

I don't even rate guys. In fact, this sub is about not dating guys who are under our league because women have been pressured and guilted into doing so even though doing so doesn't usually results very well as you can see with all these posts about ugly guys treating you like shit.

My ex was probably like 5'10, dad bod, turkey neck gobble at only 24, busted tiny teeth, ugly attitude, skinnyfat. Probably a "5.5". I actually hadn't dated a guy like that before. Over time I assumed he was endearing and honestly I thought I was ugly. After dumping him, I started wearing makeup again for the first time since high school, I'm currently dating the most handsome man I've ever seen and he is six foot four, strong, muscular, incredibly sweet and kind and loving with a strong moral compass and family values. He's telling me that I'm out of his league???? He's so sweet. And my first boyfriends ever were super tall handsome guys who treated me well too.

so they have no idea what they are talking about, it's not that we are trying to date guys who are more attractive than us, it's that we are finally realizing that we can date someone who is just as attractive as us. In fact, the good-looking guys who are nice are the BEST. They don't feel like they need to lower your self-esteem for you to put up with them. They want to support you. Never dating an "uglier" guy again. I've tried it multiple times and each and every time they start out literally idealizing the hell out of you, putting you on a pedestal and then like clockwork three months later their anxiety and their insecurities starts to surface and it comes out in very controlling, bad ways or they feel like they are holding on for dear life so they just cheat on you with someone so they feel more in control. with the handsome guys there is no idealizing and devaluing most of the time if they are nice guy. Because they don't see you as "the holy Grail trophy fuck" they just treat you like a regular woman but nicely

Evil_Rao · 2020-01-19T20:42:23+00:00

Preach it sister!! I've been subtly teaching my other single friends about FDS principles and I hope more and more women wake up and stop wasting time with LVM.

YveisGrey · 2020-01-19T19:46:50+00:00

I never get that one. What does me having money have to do with me paying on dates? Men never paid dates to prove the could provide even broke men can afford to take a woman on a date they paid for dates to be courteous its like holding the door open like obviously women can also open their own doors and do so all the time. I find men who complain about this fall in two camps broke or broker. Lol seriously only broke men complain about paying for dates men with expendable income enjoy spending it on money.

2020-01-20T06:29:47+00:00

Haha, this was such an entertaining yet a real post. Thank you!

2020-01-20T07:52:03+00:00

Calling a male a fuckboy is just adding extra words

riseaboveagain · 2020-01-19T16:10:41+00:00

50k? My goodness, you’re such an optimist.

Title	Men act like we force them to date us
Author	pinkyberries
Upvotes	270
Comments	40
Date	January 19, 2020 2:50 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
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