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Woman who tricked friend into sex by pretending to be a man using fake penis jailed for six and a half years

EduBA

July 20, 2017
2030 upvotes
/r/PussyPassDenied
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/20/woman-tricked-friend-sex-pretending-man-using-fake-penis-jailed/
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Title Woman who tricked friend into sex by pretending to be a man using fake penis jailed for six and a half years
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EduBA

Upvotes 2030
Comments 195
Date July 20, 2017 1:24 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/6og78t/woman_who_tricked_friend_into_sex_by_pretending/
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Comments

[–]No_UU 181 points182 points183 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think this belongs to r/nottheonion

[–]enormuschwanzstucker 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's what I thought it was until I saw the sub name

[–]The_Bombsquad 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here from /r/all, and same.

[–]holy_black_on_a_popo 224 points225 points226 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

FTA

Gayle Newland cried in the dock as she was sent back to jail for tricking the woman into believing she was a man by making her wear a blindfold when they met

Who fucking agrees to shit like that? Lost all sympathy when I saw that bit of stupidity. Holy fuck

[–]-Enrique_Shockwave- 116 points117 points118 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I mean what the girl did was obviously wrong, but wearing a blindfold for the entire relationship with this dude? wtf?! they would watch tv together? while she sat there blindfolded. Like LOL this story is so weird and fucked up.

[–]ario93 88 points89 points90 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's get worse if you keep reading. They sunbathed together, took car drives together. All that while she was blindfolded. Not that she deserved that but still

[–]ClashMCTitan 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As I painted the mental picture, the victim was driving and the all of the sudden she got a blindfold shoved on and BOOM car crash Then I realized that she was the passenger

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

VICTIM BLAMING!!!!/s

[–]overly_optimistic_ox 490 points491 points492 points 9 years ago (50 children) | Copy Link

If she had a sex change operation, it wouldn't be illegal. Is it deceitful? Yes. Were they all willing participants? Yes. Has she got mental issues? Definitely. Do the victims who meet someone and while blindfolded voluntarily also have mental issues? Almost definitely

[–]Alpha741 164 points165 points166 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Yeah honestly they had to be super dumb

[–]umilmi81 97 points98 points99 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Not going to lie. Kind of wondering how one goes about finding women who will have entire relationships, including going out on dates and having sex, while wearing a blindfold and never seeing their partner.

[–]DevilishRogue 67 points68 points69 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hint: They don't - they know exactly what they are doing.

[–]NoDudeImScared 40 points41 points42 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

bruh, that's not really a hint.

[–]DevilishRogue 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Judging from some of the comments in this thread, it's not a strong enough hint!

[–]Flaktrack 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same way Nigerian princes transfer money I suppose

[–]dodge_thiss 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps the friend was encouraging it from her side and reinforcing it as the "male" persona. Dual, choreographed manipulation.....gross

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you're on the right track. I don't care about whether her eyes are open, as long as she can keep her mouth shut.

[–]JohnnySkidmarx 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This sounds like a movie you'd see on Lifetime.

[–]Alpha741 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So true

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We already knew it was 2 women. You're just repeating what we already knew

[–]Ragnrok 131 points132 points133 points 9 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out where the line is when lying becomes rape. If I convince a woman (through disguise or whatever) that I'm her husband and have sex with her, that's definitely rape. If I tell a woman my name is Josh (my name is not Josh) and have sex with her, that isn't rape. If I tell a woman I'm a trans man and I'm going to have sex with her with a strap on and then have sex with her with my real penis, I guess that's rape? What if I tell the same lie but then have sex with her using a strap on? What if I tell a woman I'm trans but haven't transitioned yet and have sex with her? Is that rape?

I don't really get how what this woman did is a crime. I get how putting my actual penis in a woman after telling her I was gonna put a dildo in is rape, but is putting a dildo in instead of my actual penis still rape?

[–]notseriousIswear 74 points75 points76 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She liked it enough to come back 14 times. Very strange. Maybe she found out she wasn't the only one.

[–]Drezzzire 98 points99 points100 points 9 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

The definition of rape is so out of hand nowadays.

If someone consents to sex it doesn't matter what other circumstances surround it. Consent is consent. This grey area bullshit needs to stop.

[–]Ragnrok 67 points68 points69 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. By the logic used in this court case if a woman screams "Fuck me! Fuck me!" while we're in bed and I finger her instead I'm committing sexual assault.

Then again I feel like the level of catfishing she went to should be a punishable crime.

Then again again, if you don't know how to avoid being catfished maybe you deserve it.

[–]ceriodamus 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I thought the reason for the conviction was because she lied about her gender? The victim thought she had sex with a man but turned out to be a female.

I guess the victim is heterosexual.

Am I wrong here or what did I miss?

[–][deleted] 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]ceriodamus 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She was penetrated. She thought she was having sex with a man. Culprit pretended to be male.

No matter how you spin it, it is still wrong.

[–]KR_Blade 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

its considered rape because she wasnt who she said she was [she was a woman pretending to be a man and using a strap on as a penis] and had her blindfolded each them they had sex, more than likely the judge and jury saw that as it would be considered rape also due to the what if senario, what if she were to hire a guy to have sex with this girl and pretend it was her, she wouldnt know it, as such, couldnt consent to it, so thats how it could be spun as rape, this probably also could qualify as sexual assault.

[+]truth_sentinell -6 points-5 points-4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And how does that give you 6 and a half years? I guess the judge was a conservative Christian or some shit like that

[–][deleted] 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]YouDownWithTPP 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure why you're being downvoted. I think it would be the same for the opposite scenario as well.

[–]IndefiniteE 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Realistically, your "logic" example would be more like you giving me permission to finger your butt hole, and then me shoving a meat hook up it instead. It's the moderately different misrepresentation of facts that's significant, not whether someone thinks their strap on dildo qualifies them as a man.

[–]TheShtuff 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Maybe there needs to be some type of catfishing law put into effect, because there's definitely a moral issue there and plenty of people end up victims of such things (as naive as they may be). The offenders are very often being malicious in intent. But a rape charge in these circumstances is ridiculous.

[–]Trailing-and-Blazing 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But where is the legal difference between catfishing and telling lies, exaggerating stories, etc.? I agree if you assume someone else's identity is a crime. That said, if I just make up a name and occupation and a woman sleeps with me because of it, does that make me a rapist? When does it become a freedom of speech issue? I'm not legally required to be honest outside of the court and legal documents, maybe there are other examples but you catch my drift.

I'm not even disagreeing with you because catfishing is fucked up. I'm also a person who likes to role play at bars in foreign cities for fun.

[–]TheShtuff 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's definitely a very gray area and I think the courts need to figure out what's reasonable fun and what's malicious. There's a significant difference between making up a name at a bar and assuming a fake persona online for extended periods for the sole purpose of deceiving people to engage with you romantically or sexually. It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out going forward.

[–]Miggle-B 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being discussed in the UK atm

[–][deleted] 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]sharkbaitzero 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Spreading a disease isn't rape though. It's douchy, but not rape. If that were the case you could say accidental pregnancy is rape.

[–]Drezzzire 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wrong

That's still not rape

That is a different crime

Stop confusing rape with anything that has to do with sex

Giving someone a STD is not rape

Smfh mentalities like yours is why the system is so fucked

[–]natephant 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Like.... I'm not actually a rocket scientist... so am I raping all these women I pick up at the bar when I tell them I'm a rocket scientist?

[–]eyemadeanaccount 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, you're a fucking arsonist

[–]ecafyelims 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I remember a case where some dude was charged with rape because he lied about his name. He gave a Jewish name, but he had a Muslim name. The girl was mad. I'm not sure if he was convicted.

Edit: Found the story. He was convicted, but it wasn't in America. It was in Israel. http://www.thedailybeast.com/arab-man-convicted-of-rape-for-posing-as-jewish-in-israel

[–]Xray330 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

stay classy Israel.

[–]Vawnn 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These are all great questions without real answers.

[–]leadpainter 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s rape if the penis is uncircumcised said my ex... But really, an even harder thing to define is sexual assault, because that is what they charged her with. Where was the physical attack? I mean, the “victim” wanted to get screwed and got screwed. I can see how the victim was exploited, but sexually assaulted or raped? Fuck nah

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s rape if the penis is uncircumcised said my ex...

Haha! Thats hilarious.

[–]Wannabkate 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What if I tell a woman I'm trans but haven't transitioned yet and have sex with her? Is that rape?

Wait, is this rape? Because you just explained about 90% of my sexual encounters.

[–]Ill_Pack_A_Llama 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What was the actual crime? Did I miss it in the article? Is deceit, on its own, a crime?

[–]WilNotJr 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the crime was rape by deception.

[–]AFuckYou 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea I don't get this. It's not pussy pass denied. It's wtf is the legal system doing involved with the case? I mean, you out a fucking blind fold on. It seems like your asking for whatever comes next. Like your up for the whole schabang.

[–]rebellionmarch 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, this whole story screams of the "victim" just being retarded. If this woman has to go to jail, then any tranny who doesn't immediayely reveal their status when dating should also be jailed. After all this is exactly that, a human being whose parts do not match their espoused identity, being jailed for sexual activity with a willing consentual participant.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea...6 and a half years for pretending to have a cock?

[–]bludragen -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Found the woman.

[–]Physical_removal 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If she had sex change operation it would absolutely be illegal. That's called rape by deception

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If she had a sex change operation, then she would HAVE to have sex with zim or else she would be trans-phobic.

[–]hachiko007 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If she had a sex change operation, it wouldn't be illegal

That's dumb. It's like saying if I were married, raping this girl wouldn't be so bad. What you are saying ignores everything she did.

[–]BrownChicow 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah, the girl was willing to bang her as long as she thought she was a dude. If she had a sex change, thus becoming a dude, then there would've been no problem. It literally wasn't rape, they willingly had sex, but then she found out that it wasn't a guy and suddenly the consent just vanishes

fucking blindfolded too

[–][deleted] 9 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like if the bitch I met at the bar turns out to be a skank without the makeup on...I can claim rape....amirite?

[–]Enshakushanna 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol

[–]visvavasu2 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Semi

[–]IAintThatGuy 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then it's a good thing women suffer from the consequences of these laws too. It's the only way laws about rape and consent would be reconsidered.

[+][deleted] -23 points-22 points-21 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

5" is average for a dick according to more recent studies, and having a "semi" would be a shit excuse for having a small penis during sex. Sounds like some pre-erectile dysfunction right there.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think your taking that point a little too literal.

[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, I know his point, I'm just nitpicking.

[–]harsh4correction2 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Ut oh we have a Reddit MD here

[+][deleted] -10 points-9 points-8 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Erectile dysfunction: "Occurs when a man can't get or keep an erection firm enough for sexual intercourse." No, just someone with a brain.

[–]Failroko 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Your brain is useless.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If your penis can't erect through the sensation of penetrating the vagina, you have ED. Sorry to break it to you. Idiot.

[–]weirding 116 points117 points118 points 9 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

This isn't pussypassdenied, this is pussy pass granted. The woman went to jail because she was falsely accused of rape when her partner consented to the bizarre practice of having several sexual encounters with someone that she can't see.

[–]ThePantyArcher 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Upcunts for you.

[–]DionysusMA 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Except blindfolded sex is not illegal, while sex through deception is.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Is it? I don't think it is in the US.

[–]EtherMan 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

It is. In any case where you are misrepresenting the factors that the other sexual partner or partners base their consent on, they are legally no longer consenting.

To take a comparison for say a contract, people generally have an easier time to understand the problem. You and I come to an agreement. I draft up a contract which we agreed to and we both sign it. I now bleach the contract except your signature, and write in something completely different. You have obviously not consented to this new contract, what you consented to, was a contract that I bleached away. The same thing holds for consent under deception. What you consented to, is not the actual situation at hand.

[–]deimosian 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

So... if I rent a Ferrari for a day and get a chick to come back to a nice hotel room, is it rape because she thought I was rich?

[–]EtherMan -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Not unless you tell her you are or that you own that Ferrari. If they consent based on their own assumption, then they are consenting to not knowing, exactly because they didn't ask. Same thing if they ask, and you decline to answer or avoid the question. It's the affirmative claim that you own the Ferrari, or that you're rich, that would void the consent.

[–]ikigaii 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Cite your sources on this absolute nonsense.

[–]EtherMan 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Errr... The law? Which state's law on this do you want me to cite for you? Alabama?

Section 13A-6-65:

(a) A person commits the crime of sexual misconduct if:

(1) Being a male, he engages in sexual intercourse with a female without her consent, under circumstances other than those covered by Sections 13A-6-61 and 13A-6-62; or with her consent where consent was obtained by the use of any fraud or artifice; or

(2) Being a female, she engages in sexual intercourse with a male without his consent; or

(3) He or she engages in deviate sexual intercourse with another person under circumstances other than those covered by Sections 13A-6-63 and 13A-6-64. Consent is no defense to a prosecution under this subdivision.

(b) Sexual misconduct is a Class A misdemeanor.

As you can see, women have a pussypass to deceive for this, but men do not and it is most definitely illegal.

Every single state has it criminalized. It varies exactly what covers it, such as if it's sexual misconduct, or if it falls directly under rape, or if it's a separate crime or whatever, but it's ALWAYS illegal.

[–]ikigaii 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, looks like the issue here is that you think legal fraud is the same thing as Webster's definition of it.

[–]EtherMan 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Err... No... Just no. You're also missing the artifice, which leads me to believe that you don't actually know what that means in the legal realm. Because that words mean, to trick to deprive another of X by false OR fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises. In this case, consent... So yes, a basic promise of "I'm rich baby", is well within artifice.

[–]simplisticallysimple 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh snap!

[–]szekeres81 169 points170 points171 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

She sobbed and slumped to the floor of the dock as the sentence was handed down on Thursday and her screams could be heard from the courtroom as she was taken down to the cells.

Ohhh that just gave me a boner

[–]ABC_Florida 38 points39 points40 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fun facts

  • “The first is that a university educated, intelligent, bright woman spent hundreds of hours on the phone to her friend and more than 100 hours in her company and never suspected it was her."

  • “The second thing is that a sexually experienced woman had sexual intercourse at least ten times, and, on not one of those occasions, she suspected it was a strap on prosthetic penis and not a real penis.”

  • He said: “The complainant was calm and confident, perhaps well rehearsed, almost always in control. Gayle Newland was the opposite, open but nervous. Anxious and brittle and exposed. You may come to the view that both women have their insecurities and vulnerabilities, but we suggest that your impression of their personalities in this case should be that the balance of power lay with the complainant.”

  • Mr Power suggested the date the sex toy was purchased, April 13, 2013, proved it could not have been used in February 2013, when the prosecution claim the first three counts of sexual assault took place.

[–]throwawayshirt 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"This was a deceit of such subtlety and cunning in its planning and was a deceit, from your point of view, so successful in its execution that an outsider unaware of the full history of the case might find it difficult to comprehend.

"But truth can sometimes be stranger than fiction. The truth, the whole truth, here is as surprising as it is profoundly disturbing."

[–]sickofallofyou 30 points31 points32 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Justice boners are best boners.

[–]Billypillgrim 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My justice boner is actually just a dildo

[–]Phiau 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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Edit: this comment got me banned from r/twoxchomosomes, if you want to know how hypocritical their policies are.

Just posting in this subreddit is enough to get you banned. Content be damned. I could be defending them for all they know.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Does this give you a justice boner? m8...

[–]sickofallofyou 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. I'm just remarking that justice boners are good.

[–]EduBA[S] 62 points63 points64 points 9 years ago* (21 children) | Copy Link

He told Newland he had reduced her sentence to acknowledge her mental health issues but said she had shown "no remorse".

The Judge admitted no pussy-pass.

EDIT: More details here.

[–]justtoreplythisshit 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

reduced her sentence to acknowledge her mental health

That's not a pussy pass by itself.

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Can't understand. Am I banned from 2X?

[–]HuntTheHunter12 28 points29 points30 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably not but keep commenting here and it won't be long until you get the notification.

[–]Serojin 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You probably already are. I saw a post earlier about people trying to get banned. Out of curiosity I went to 2xC for the first time and behold! No posting controls. No warning either, just silently banned.

Not like I wanted to actually participate there of course, that draconian hugbox can disappear up its own asshole.

[–]Th3assman 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This happened to me too a while back lol

[–]HiredMind 72 points73 points74 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How is 2xC allowed to use the AutoMod to spam another sub? Shouldn't ban notices be private?

Or are the PPD mods having some fun with us?

[–][deleted] 68 points69 points70 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ppd mods having fun

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The real TwoChromosome will send you a private message, but the PPD mods are brilliant for this

[–]darokk 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Reddit rules are against autobanning for posting in other subreddits as well, but that doesn't stop them either with the cucked admins supporting them.

[–]-Enrique_Shockwave- 15 points16 points17 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

LOL what a shit sub. Fuck you 2x.

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[–]Flaktrack 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I got so sick of seeing "my pussy stinks and a man looked at me today" on the front page

Hahaha my wife said the same thing about TwoX.

[–]trumpisaforcedmeme 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

😂😂😂😂

[–]GourmetCoffee 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gotta love TwoXCirclejerk

[–]Robmomanjaro 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How the fuck do you get banned from a subreddit via bot from another subreddit?

[–]ImTheTechn0mancer 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

PPD mods played a prank

[–]Phoenixion 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You are now banned from r/Pyongyang

[–]Robmomanjaro 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

😱

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This story has to be fake...

[–]HastadinOnly my mommy makes me cum 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

what's the crime here ?

[–]avengerintraining 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm guessing it's whatever the legal term is for "rape/sexual assault with an object". she didn't consent to sex with a woman with a strap-on.

[–]Invalid_Targetthe most famous fag on reddit -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

giving it to a lady while telling her that youre a man when you have a vagina between your legs.

giving it to a lady while telling her youre a lady with a vagina between your legs is legal.

[–]HastadinOnly my mommy makes me cum 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

what about giving it to a man while telling him you are a lady with a penis between your leg ?

pretty sure i read about this cases where men fall for a ladyboy, but never heard about a conviction, well beside for the men for battery and assault when they found out.

a crime or conviction needs some damage. where is the damage here ? they had both consent, the one girl did blindfolded her self on purpose. i dont see a crime like rape or even fraud.

i mean where do you draw the line ? pretending is 90% of dating.. look at all the tinder and co pictures. if you meet them in real life you think its a parallel universe.

[–]Invalid_Targetthe most famous fag on reddit 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

you cant lie about your gender in order to get sex.

its technically theft of services through fraud.

sex has value, a lot of it.

saying something that is blatantly false in order to be allowed to engage in the act of sex is taking something that could be offered to someone else for greater benefit, through deception.

offered to a potential mate for the purposes of procreation, not offered to a person who it is impossible to get pregnant with.

I feel like there is more to the story, but a degenerate female is behind bars, that good enough for me.

[–]HastadinOnly my mommy makes me cum 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

so every women who takes the pill while saying to her husband she whats children should also go to jail ? also every man know who got a vasectomy but lies about it ?

[–]Invalid_Targetthe most famous fag on reddit -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

youre running with the wrong bit of info, homey.

the procreation bit is superfluous, it is just a single thing a woman takes into consideration when she engages in sexual activity with someone.

there are other factors, and procreation might not even be one for some women.

BUT

If a woman asks "Hey, put a baby in me." and the man says "Okay, lets do that." while knowingly being infertile due to vasectomy, thats a no-no.

[–]HastadinOnly my mommy makes me cum 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you made it about procreation. I hardly doubt that's what the blindfolded had in mind.

still don't know what's the damage here that's worth 6 years in jail

[–]ztsmart 26 points27 points28 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

As far as I can tell, she did nothing illegal or nothing that should be illegal.

[–]ST07153902935 -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

She got consent by lying (if a women gets consent by saying she is on the pill or a guy gets consent by saying he has a vasectomy then it should be illegal)

[–]truth_sentinell 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That has a completely different outcome to other lies. By your logic if I rent a super car and pen-house (which would get me inside many panties) and then they find I'm broke, then I'm a rapist? What kind of fucking logic is that? I think you're missing a couple billion neurons.

[–]southsideson 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No woman can resist a pen-house

[–]ztsmart 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I get consent by lying to bitches all the time. By your goofy-definition any man who lies to a woman to get in her panties is a rapist. If you can't see the problem with that, then you are 'tarded

[+]munomana -7 points-6 points-5 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Maybe you should stop lying to women though

[–]ztsmart 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol no

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

thats not the point. what is a 'criminal lie' now? if you told her your dick is 8 inches instead of 7, is that enough of a lie to go to jail for?

i dont know how anyone with half a brain can read the OP and think 'yeah, thats great'. my guess is its all the subterranean incels who move their gunt aside to jerk it if a womans jailed for anything. we must always use our brains first

[–]munomana -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Surely a criminal lie wouldn't be something so petty.

If you look at my comment i'm literally not saying anything about the OP. I think that it's a complete lie that this woman could possibly wear a blindfold their whole relationship

edit: If you want an example of a more questionable lie, imagine a guy who lies about being a staff on some popular program, telling women that he's able to pick who shows up as an extra.

[–]BrownChicow 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, she still got consent. Girls bang dudes all the time and say they're on the pill when they aren't. Or people fucking with STDs. You gotta watch out for yourself. If you don't trust the person, don't fuck them. It shouldn't suddenly become rape. Nobody forced anybody to have sex with them. She literally fucking blindfolded herself

[–]harsh4correction2 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A guy lying about a vasectomy is just a guy lying about a vasectomy, not necessarily a rapist.

[–]NBAmodsSuck 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh wow you actually are a rapist

[–]samuelk 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How was.. I mean, how didn't..

I'm confused

[–]ABC_Florida 78 points79 points80 points 9 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

What the hell are you celebrating? Seriously? A woman being jailed?

Dive into the case, and you will see, that

  • They had a relationship for 2 years

  • The plaintiff was supposedly always wearing a blindfold

  • She supposedly never realized Gayle penetrated her with an artificial penis

  • Gayle wore bandage to hide her breasts

  • The plaintiff did not suspect a thing


Now think about it. According to the judgement, the plaintiff gave consent. But she gave it to a man. Thus it is not valid, because she was tricked. Now read those bullet points again! It sounds like some crooked fairy tale. Or the plaintiff is NSFL. Or imagine you could be sued for false consent, because your jaw is hiding a not so masculine jaw line. 'Cause she gave consent to have sex with Thor.

IMO there is nothing to celebrate. Even if the plaintiff is this stupid, it is not rape, but deception. Don't be the male version of a bitter feminist. Because right now, you look like one.

[–]Quantization 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

100% agree. This is pretty disgusting. I would understand 6 months prison for this to set precedence but 6 years? Seems intense.

That said, if one of my friends did this to me I don't know how I'd feel, I can't imagine the emotions. I don't think I'm dumb enough for this to happen to me though?

[–]ABC_Florida 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think I'm dumb enough for this to happen to me though?

That's the point. For a short while, I thought, she knew Kyle is Gayle IRL, and she loved this illusion. Then the illusion was gone, and she felt dumb. But who knows. Apparently NSFL people walk the Earth, not that I think Gayle committed no crime. And bad mistakes, she had made a few. She had the share of sand kicked in her face, but she have come through.

[–]PM_ME_UR_AMOUR 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This sounds a lot like that movie Boys don't Cry

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[–]ABC_Florida 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Did you even follow the case? Or you disagree with everybody not saying a particular woman is a count? Supposedly Gayle introduced her male alterego to the plaintiff! Think about it! Don't be ignorant, google the case!

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[–]ABC_Florida 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

https://www.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/6og78t/woman_who_tricked_friend_into_sex_by_pretending/dkhbqgg/

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[–]Terminal-Psychosis 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahhh... so THAT'S it.

The plaintiff knew all along, had to.

Then she found out her "guy" was playing around, so had her thrown in jail with false rape accusations.

[–]ABC_Florida 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Not sure why you're defending the abomination that is Gayle, go back to TwoX tytytyty

I did not know that. Maybe it was not made public till the time I followed the case. Still, do you believe idiots who can be faked need to be patronized publicly, so other people will be more careless, since John Q. Law will help them out if they have sex blindfolded with a totally unknown person.

Regarding TwoX, could you help me? It was the third sub to be banned from. The first two were /r/Feminism and /r/AskFeminists. Thank you in advance!

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[–]Terminal-Psychosis 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

2 year relationship, sex 15+ times, and she never had a clue?

Give me a break. She found out "he" was cheating, and made up this ridiculous story that she was such an imbecile, she had no idea she was being fucked by a dildo, many, many times.

Talk about unreasonable.

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[–]ABC_Florida 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Neither here. But what constitutes to deception then? Pretending to be rich? Pretending to have a big dick? Done neither, so I'm not saying to save my ass. But does makeup constitute to deception? She seems prettier/healthier than she is.

I understand, that lying about your sex, is way bigger issue. I wouldn't like to hook up with a ladyboy either. But why sexual assault, and not deception? If you lose in the shell game, you can sue him for theft? I doubt it. So in this sense it is kinda PPD. But in the old days, in this sub, the bad girl had to ask for a pass, or be surprised to be handled like men. And you know, for a time, till I did not know she really messaged her and duped those other girls, Gayle was almost the ideal girl for me. I mean, who would you trust the most not to get back at you, with false allegation for some shitty argument, than a woman who went through similar.

TL;DR: I agree, she's guilty. But I disagree the legal definition of her deed.

[–]TheShtuff 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There's a big difference between some kind of deception charge and rape. If I picked up some chick at the bar and had sex with her and she turned out to be a transexual, can I press charged for rape? This has lot of bad implications. This can open up a big can of worms where people might as well fill out a consent form before having sex.

[–]Jaegendar -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not a count, a cunt.

[–]ABC_Florida 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the correction. I've been typing seldom lately.

[–]vicious_armbar -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Or imagine you could be sued for false consent, because your jaw is hiding a not so masculine jaw line. 'Cause she gave consent to have sex with Thor.

It's hard to glean anything from this case because it's so weird and extreme. But I wouldn't say that a man for growing a beard to hide a weak jaw, or a woman using makeup prettier then she is isn't a comparable situation. A tranny lying about their gender before having sex is more comparable to an HIV positive person lying to their partner about their HIV status. Which IS illegal.

If you don't give people a legal way to get justice against stealth trannys then you'll see a lot more violence as people take the law into their own hands. Personally if I've been making out with a he-she that I thought was a woman, but I find a banana when I slip off it's skirt; then things are going to get very ugly very fast. Trust me the amount of restraint that I'll show will be directly related to how likely I think it is that I'll get justice though the legal system.

[–]ABC_Florida 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But I wouldn't say that a man for growing a beard to hide a weak jaw, or a woman using makeup prettier then she is isn't a comparable situation.

It was an extreme example. I would say makeup is not your body. Your hair, her hair, is part of the body. Bicep or breast implant isn't.

[–]Cebby89 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The fuck is this crazy ass story. To bad the person she was "duping" wasn't a guy. She probably would have just been released.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This seem more just a catfish crime. Everything was consented.

[–]kungfoocraig -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No she consented to having sex with a man not a mentally ill chick with a fake dick

[–]thewayoftoday 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Wait are you kidding me? How could you jail someone for that?

[–]avengerintraining -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Why isn't it rape?

[–]thewayoftoday 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How the hell should I know

[–]avengerintraining -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You asked what crime was committed, I'm saying why couldn't it be considered rape.

[–]thewayoftoday 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You tell me

[–]avengerintraining 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think it could be classified as rape or at least sexual assault because the other woman didn't consent to it. Let's say it was a man that blindfolded a woman and had her believe it was him when actually he was sticking objects in her without her consent or approval, he would probably get sentenced with the crime of rape, sexual assault with a foreign object or something along those lines. Why is this different?

[–]thewayoftoday 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know but I don't think this woman should go to jail. It's excessive punishment to deprive somebody of their freedom.

[–]Pickledhamz 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If she "identified" as a man would that be a different outcome?

[–]kidneystoneslayer 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know what they say, a year an inch. Luckily, I'd get off with only a couple months!

[–]hc84 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know it was wrong. But wow. She got more time than murderers.

[–]Runefall 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why the fuck is this illegal?

[–]DeplorableTexan 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You mean to tell me if you never actually see the person naked you really don't know what sex they are?

You'd have to be a fucking idiot to blindly believe anyone in this world.

[–]unclearimage 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

so... she's a lesbian? and her friend is dumb?

this is apparently illegal now.

[–]imoblivioustothis 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

all i'm getting out of this is the accuser doesn't suck cock. so....

[–]everydaylowvices 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

a year for every inch of the fake penis

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A women

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Epic battle of 2 pussy passes

[–]Milk__duds 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

r/nottheonion

[–]Fatabil1ty 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

WTF with that draconian punishment?! Can't they just cut her penis and send her home?

[–]jaytix1 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LMAO there is porn of this at Brazzers.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What's fucked up is that this actually narrows the definition of consent. The victim consented to sex, but with a male. That's why the court says she did not provide consent. And this introduces an interesting twist: If I have sex with a girl, it is consensual, but she happens to be a lesbian, can I claim rape because I though I was fucking a heterosexual woman? Open the pandora box and shit will hit the fan.

[–]EduBA[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe we all need to wear a body cam 24/7 to protect ourselves from being jailed.

[–]Hapablap2013 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What law was broken here? Counterfeit penis?

[–]I_Luv_Barney 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All she did was pretend to be a guy. What's the jail time for? This is fucking stupid.

[–]pussycatmando 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmafo.. this is protecting dumbasses from their own decisions. Obviously society has become pussified but goddamn the law cannot assume every dummy is a victim.

[–]Ishouldloseweight 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is it still considered ppd if she is a trans male? Honest question.

[–]Novacryy 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What

[–]iHeartCandicePatton 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dafuq

[–]dhorvath127 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How fucking stupid do you have to be to fuck someone who you've never actually seen before? I mean, yeah, what this lady did was weird as fuck, but what about the morons that were ok with being blindfolded and fucked by a stranger?

[–]gotoucanario 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just someone from r/all passing by.

[–]GoodShitLollypop 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was just a prank brah!

[–]samethought 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Her eyebrows in the first couple pics are amazing, can't say I agree with all the rape stuff though.

[–]Tattered 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She sexuality identified as a man

[–]avengerintraining 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok this is really effed up but how in the world did the other woman fall for that?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucking how?!

[–]JDiGi7730 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's so metal. ( is that the right use of that phrase?)

[–]chaircushion 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Quite an overreaction. She shouldn't be punished at all. Here 'victim' is just butthurt and should take a mandatory anti naive course.

[–]ArmoredKappa 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck, did you just assume her gender OP? How could you call her penis "fake"; it's just as real as yours you fucking bigot. If this person identifies as a woman-who-acts-like-a-man with a plastic penis then more power to them!

[–]Forcistus 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait.... What exactly is she going to jail for? She tricked women into believing she was man and then it turned out she wasn't a man.... So lying? 6 years seems.... excessive.

[–]l-Orion-l 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So lets just say I sleep with what I think is a woman but it turns out to be a tranny is that rape? Because I consider it to be but I feel as if there would be no consequences despite me feeling violated?

Also this story is straight up stupid. Who the hell would meet someone online and agree to meeting them with a blindfold then have sex with the blindfold on. Wouldn't you feel like you were in danger or something? Seems a bit strange to me. If the chick cut her hair and wore makeup making herself look like a man then yeah but this is just straight up stupid on both ends. I think that the victim is in denial and uncomfortable with her sexuality.

[–]SVTterminator 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Glad she was jailed and fined by her employer. She does look quite manly. Facial features that is.

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