Durham University student cleared of rape calls for anonymity for sex crime accused

EduBA · 2016-07-27T19:05:48+00:00

I fully second what a reader of Daily Mail said:

"The 1988 CJA was wrong to repeal the defendants' right to anonymity. Anonymity should be given to both until the trial ends and then, if guilty, the defendant is named. If not guilty because of insufficient evidence then both retain their anonymity. If not guilty because there is sufficient evidence to demonstrate that the accuser deliberately lied then they should be tried (perverting the course of justice, perjury) and, if guilty, lose their anonymity. Only in very special cases (as determined by a judge) should a defendant's right to anonymity be withdrawn."

civilsaint · 2016-07-27T18:58:36+00:00

Think of how many men accused of sex crimes are actually the victims themselves.

pictureofstorefronts · 2016-07-27T20:55:06+00:00

Either reveal the names of BOTH the accuser AND the accused or reveal NEITHER until the verdict.

DeValueMyAchievement · 2016-07-27T18:38:53+00:00

And the first thing i see is his face...

Astronomist · 2016-07-27T19:55:22+00:00

Why is his name plastered everywhere but the false accusers names aren't? What were their names?

at2wells · 2016-07-27T21:31:38+00:00

While I agree with the sentiment, I think this is missing the point.

The real problem is not anonymity - the problem is the nature of the police "investigation", and the evidence-free show trials that result.

Being anonymous does not protect you from a malicious prosecution and trials that lack any kind of procedural fairness or evidentiary requirements.

Police don't actually investigate rape claims - they take the accusers statement then start working on framing the man for prosecution. They will activity ignore, or even suppress evidence that might help the accused.

In normal cases, if person A accuses person B of something, and person B denies it, police will treat both claims equally, and investigate them from all angles. As a matter of malicious policy, they will not investigate accusers for lying - unless they are hit with blatant evidence as to the fact.

In many ways, anonymity might work against men, by leading to less coverage of the real problem - the abolishment of fair trials and impartial police investigations in cases of sexual assault only.

If you were accused of sexual assault, would you rather be anonymous or face a fair trial?

recoil669 · 2016-07-27T21:22:16+00:00

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What is this?

furchfur · 2016-07-28T01:07:19+00:00

The vast majority of rape allegations in the UK in my opinion are false. I would say about 89% of allegations are false.

2500 of the 22500 allegations each year in the UK results in a conviction so I would go with 89% of all allegations of rape are false!

If you look at some of the dubious outrageous marginal cases the CPS brings to court and then consider the ones that are too outrageously false to even put before a court, like 17500 of them! The vast majority of allegations must be false. 5000 appox cases are put before a court but only about half result in a conviction.

As for false allegations the CPS applies a different criteria to bring a prosecution the bar is much higher.

The CPS only prosecutes false allegations of rape when their is a public interest and a 100% chance of conviction. There has never been a prosecution for a false allegation that has not resulted in a conviction.

ld2gj · 2016-07-27T22:32:10+00:00

This can not be allowed. How else would the weak womenz of the world know who that real monsters are? /s

RobDog101 · 2016-07-28T01:12:35+00:00

Rape hoaxers get a right to anonymity but their victims don't—which is exactly why these evil fucking bitches do it.

furchfur · 2016-07-27T20:54:28+00:00

The vast majority of rape allegations in the UK are false.About 89% of allegations are false, I would estimate.

Only 2500 of the 22500 allegations each year in the UK results in a conviction so I would go with 89% of all allegations of rape are false!

The CPS only prosecutes false allegations of rape when their is a public interest and a 100% chance of conviction. There has never been a prosecution for a false allegation that has not resulted in a conviction.

rossraskolnikov · 2016-07-27T20:06:53+00:00

There should be no anonymity in law. Except maybe for minors. It should be as transparent as possible.

Title	Durham University student cleared of rape calls for anonymity for sex crime accused
Author	furchfur
Upvotes	1272
Comments	76
Date	July 27, 2016 3:02 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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