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Teacher who avoided jail, sex offender registry for sexually abusing student is now suing his parents for calling her a sexual predator

xynomaster

January 20, 2016
419 upvotes
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3408641/Teacher-pleads-guilty-sleeping-17-year-old-student-SUES-victim-s-mother-telling-media-sexual-predator.html
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Title Teacher who avoided jail, sex offender registry for sexually abusing student is now suing his parents for calling her a sexual predator
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xynomaster

Upvotes 419
Comments 65
Date January 20, 2016 6:13 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/41vjq6/teacher_who_avoided_jail_sex_offender_registry/
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Comments

[–]HeForeverBleeds 102 points103 points104 points 10 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

So not getting jail time and not having to register as a sex offender isn't enough for this pervert, and now she wants to sue the boy's family? I'd say not only is she a sexual predator, but also a self-entitled bitch

[–]xynomaster[S] 51 points52 points53 points 10 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

It's amazing. Clearly, she doesn't have even an ounce of remorse for what she's done. She doesn't seem to have any mental illness. No mitigating factors that I can see. What in the hell was the prosecutor's justification for giving her probation for a crime that carries a sentence of up to 20 years?

If you're walking out of court after pleading guilty still feeling like you've done nothing wrong, the court system has failed.

[–]ABC_Florida 24 points25 points26 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why should she? The system is on her side.

[–]tralphaz43 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Kid was 17 I think that's the age of consent in texas. The teacher student thing is all she was guilty of

[–]TechnoSam_Belpois 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. I think losing her teaching license is entirely appropriate in this scenario, but sex offender and jail time just isn't needed.

However to then turn around and sue someone for stating facts... That's twisted. It's pretty scary actually.

[+]mwobuddy -7 points-6 points-5 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. If they were both doing it willingly, the only possible abuse is because she was a teacher. Even that bullshit falls flat, because teachers have no real authority.

http://www.smartclassroommanagement.com/2010/05/08/how-to-handle-an-angry-verbally-aggressive-student/

Aggression on aggression is an explosive mix. Never yell, scold, or attempt to use the power of your authority to stop emotionally charged students.

Gee, you're advised not to use your authority? How weak is that authority when someone can invalidate it just by not listening when they're a teen?

[–]franklindeer 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Teachers are absolutely authority figures. As are doctors and therapists who similarly don't have formal, legal powers like the police for instance.

[–]mwobuddy -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As are doctors and therapists

People tell doctors and therapists to fuck off all the time. Authority isn't much good if people can disregard you.

[–]franklindeer 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think you're willfully missing the point. Just because someone can't jail you doesn't mean they aren't authority figures. Doctors and therapists can lose their license for sleeping with adult patients because they're in their care and vulnerable. This is obviously an even bigger issue if the patient/student is a minor.

[–]mwobuddy -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Not at all. Someone is only an authority figure when recognized as such by those who they supposedly have authority over.

If I go to some african rebel state and declare myself the new authority figure, they'll laugh and kill me. Even supposing I could become a dictator, I only have that authority because everyone else agrees to go along with it. To simplify it, look at the sith master apprentice relationship. One is only in authority as long as the other doesn't succeed in killing them and taking their place.

Authority is a power granted willfully by the person or persons under them. Its like BDSM. The person under can say stop at any time, and if that person has to comply, they are not really an authority figure.

I think you're confusing authority of understanding a science with authority of control over others.

the power or right to control, judge, or prohibit the actions of others

Without compliance by those under that authority, it has no value. The power doesn't come from the person him/her/itself, the power comes from others agreeing to go along with it. If one person doesn't like the authority, but there's a majority still backing that authority, that one person can be taken out by the said authority ONLY through third parties being involved on the behest of that authority to do something.

People give adults a lot of authority in terms of knowing about life despite nearly all adults being fallible humans with no real clue about life. That authority only maintains any semblance of power as long as people believe in it.

The same is true of doctors or teachers, which is why if theres a student that doesn't give a fuck about the teacher, their authority loses all power.

a person whose real or apparent authority over others inspires or demands obedience and emulation:

If a teacher or parent loses that illusion of authority over a child, they can't control that child any more.

[–]NecroticFury 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

male teachers face jail wtf is this

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its like this: If men had some rights in the past that women didn't, I don't think we'd argue that men's rights should be taken away to make men and women equal. I think we'd argue that women should get better rights to be equal to men.

One side getting the shit end of the stick doesn't mean all should get it to be fair.

[–]Clockw0rk 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She doesn't seem to have any mental illness.

I dunno. Lack of empathy and enhanced feeling of entitlement both fit under Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

It's not something that would excuse you in a court case, but it's definitely something that needs treatment.

[–]NecroticFury 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

its something that is likely to get you convinced if you're male.

all the more reason the justice system failed yet again. shes a predator.

[–]BioGenx2b 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What in the hell was the prosecutor's justification for giving her probation for a crime that carries a sentence of up to 20 years?

Age of consent in Texas is 17. How much time does "improper relationship with a student" get you? That's all they could pin on her.

[–]xynomaster[S] 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

According to the article, up to 20 years.

[–]BioGenx2b 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How long have men in Texas charged with the same crime gotten? The teen must also be 17 in these cases for some degree of parallel.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That will get you fired as a teacher. So that happened...how much blood do you want out of her? This is not the right battle to fight. There are way more useless cunts out there to spend energy on.

[–]mwobuddy -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agree.

I prefer to go after women raping 9 year olds and getting away with it than women having consensual sex with teens, whether of age or under age.

[–]BioGenx2b 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So not getting jail time and not having to register as a sex offende

Uhh, the age of consent in Texas is 17. Not a Romeo and Juliet 17 or something like "X years older than", just straight 17. In this case, it sounds like she was convicted of exactly what she was liable for.

[–]Ovendice 26 points27 points28 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So now criminals can sue for being called what they are? I guess next it will be murderers suing the victim's family for being called a murderer. LOL

Or a thief, rapist, etc. Only women are this insane. Because women today have never been held accountable for anything in their entire lives and only see being held accountable and called out and punished as an 'attack' and nothing more, with NO concept of ethics, morals, justice or right vs. wrong; just soul dead shells of something not quite human.

That's the product of 50 years of Feminism. Men would be just as creepy and inhuman if we were above accountability as well. And no, given probation and not having to register as a sex offender after being arrested for and guilty of statutory rape is not being held accountable, just the opposite.

I don't see why they even bother going through the motions of arresting women and bringing them to court at all. Watch, 20 years from now it will get to the point that when police arrive at the scene of a murder where the murderer is female, the police will just tell the press, "Well, the murderer was female so we couldn't arrest her and just took the body to the morgue." Laws only apply to men.

[–]geniice 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So now criminals can sue for being called what they are? I guess next it will be murderers suing the victim's family for being called a murderer.

Err you can sue for pretty much anything. Actualy winning presents more of a problem.

Or a thief, rapist, etc.

Lawsuits from that group are more common than you might expect. They have a lot of free time in jail to write up their lawsuits. They don't tend to win but that doesn't stop them trying.

[–]Ovendice 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Actualy winning presents more of a problem."

Yes, I was implying if she wins and sets a precedent.

[–]geniice 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps your original statement should have done that.

[–]Electroverted 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She should get the same judge as her last court case. I want that judge to have to tell the family why they're now defendants, and I most certainly want that judge's name in news stories. They shouldn't be able to walk away from this while the lady terrorizes the family.

[–]geniice 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She should get the same judge as her last court case.

Criminal vs civil law. I doubt that would be legally possible.

[–]ustael 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what happens when you don't hold a criminal accountable for their crimes.

[–]TheDude41 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

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[–]tall_atreides 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Tanya Ramirez

"White women"?

[–]chumia40 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Race: white, ethnicity: Hispanic

[–]TheDude41 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]TheDude41 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]gtfomylawnplease 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Obviously you're never around black women. Or Chinese women. Or Indian women. Or... come to think of it, any women. You described women in general.

[–]TheDude41 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]brennanww 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not defamation if it's true

[–]Tedesche 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She will likely lose. A civil court judge isn't going to cast doubt on a criminal conviction by invalidating it or even just seeming to invalidate it with their own decision.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Okay. The age of consent there is 17 he was 17. Why are they making such a big deal out of this when it wasn't rape or anything worse than sex. This whole thing looks like a mess.

[–]Lethn 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Age difference, I'm really thinking that's all this kind of thing is, people aren't bothered about whether it was legal or not or whether they consented to it, they just want to stir up a fuss over the age difference.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Looks like it must be the parents that are making a big fuss out of it then. She's not a sex offender when you gather up the information.

[–]Lethn 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it says in the actual article that it was the mother that was the accuser not the son, so it just shows you how full of shit some people can be when they act so self-righteous about this kind of thing.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's a teacher who used her position of authority to have sex with students...notice the plural, as in "more than one student", one of which was apparently UNDER the age of consent.

If that's difficult to understand, then imagine the same scenario with a male teacher and two female students...that'll probably jog your outrage gland a bit more.

It's illegal in every US state for teachers to have sex with students, regardless of age of consent, because of the imbalance of authority. She's not only guilty, she's a repeat offender..."predator" sounds about right.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oooh! Thank you for clearing it up. This makes much more sense now. Pardon me for my ignorance.

[–]mwobuddy -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If that's difficult to understand, then imagine the same scenario with a male teacher and two female students...that'll probably jog your outrage gland a bit more.

Nope. Attempt to outrage failed.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Does this surprise anyone? We spend a few generations telling women "nothing you do is wrong, or your fault"...now when she freely grooms a few students for sexual gratification, are we surprised that she doesn't feel she did anything wrong? Hell, she's not a sexual predator, she's a "strong woman who won't be slut shamed over expressing her sexuality"

[–]mwobuddy -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Shut up with grooming.

If I meet and chat with an 18 year old over the internet and encourage them into sex, am I grooming?

Grooming is a nebulous bullshit word for people to emotionally charge an issue.

[–]PerniciousOne 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a breach of trust, regardless of the consensual age, an adult in power should not be having sex with their students. University professors should not be having Rex with their students either.

[+]AlwaysABride -17 points-16 points-15 points 10 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

She had sex with a 17 year old when she was 31. She's not a sexual predator.

[–]HeForeverBleeds 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Right, she was an adult teacher having sex with a minor student. Which makes her a sexual predator

[+]InvaderDem -9 points-8 points-7 points 10 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

If the kid was 17 and the age of consent in Texas is 17 then both parties weren't breaking any laws. Sure, the age difference may be up for debate ... but from a legal standpoint, nothing illegal happened.

Edit: Reworded my logic.

[–]Antrophis 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She sits in a direct position of power over him. She is a predator and she should have her licence revoked.

[–]InvaderDem 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She did.

[–]thatlowdowndirty47 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Full of it. If a 31 year old man was going after a 17 year old girl, there's no doubt he's going to be labeled a predator.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Age of consent may be 17, but you still are not an adult til 18. So he was a minor.

[–]fucktales 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Something illegal did happen. It's illegal for a highschool teacher to have sex with a student, which is what she was charged with.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Any sexual contact between a student and teacher is illegal. If he had graduated or dropped out it would not have been illegal.

[–]heretohelp333 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

actually she is, and the fact you can think its ok that she be able to sue this CHILDS family is disgusting, imagine if this was the other way around and a male teacher was having sex with a female 17 year old student, he would be in prison for decades and i bet you would be among the first people to brand him a "pervert". You my friend disgust me as a person and this is a double standard that needs to be brought to light.

[+]AlwaysABride -9 points-8 points-7 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

imagine if this was the other way around and a male teacher was having sex with a female 17 year old student

Also not a sexual predator.

double standard

I got no double standard.

[–]heretohelp333 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Sexual contact or indecent exposure with a minor is a felony that requires the perpetrator to register as a sex offender. It also is a felony for a teacher to engage in a sexual relationship with a student, even if that student is of the legal age of consent. This prohibition includes students enrolled in schools where the teacher isn’t employed.

taken directly from the texas classroom teachers association

[https://tcta.org/node/12941]

so again, tell me how is this not the actions of a sexual predator?

[+]AlwaysABride -11 points-10 points-9 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

so again, tell me how is this not the actions of a sexual predator?

For the same reason Rosa Parks sitting in the front of the bus wasn't the action of a <bad person that would be the equivalent of a sexual predator analogous to the law that Rosa broke>. The action wasn't wrong, the law is wrong.

[–]heretohelp333 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

so you are comparing Rosa Parks' act of civil disobedience is the same as a teacher, who is in a position of power over the student, being allowed to commit a felony, not go to jail, and then sue for it? Also, when Rosa Parks committed her minor "crime" it did not hurt or affect anyone other than the person who wanted her seat. so that guy/girl was experienced a minor inconvenience as opposed to this child who was taken advantage of and may have lasting psychological damage, not to mention the stress that this will cause to his family.

[–]AlwaysABride -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

We're going to disagree. I have no problem with a mentally competent 17 year old having a consensual relationship with a 31 year old. Gender is irrelevant to my conclusion.

[–]heretohelp333 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

you having a problem with it is not the point we are making, the point is that A. she is a sexual predator. B. she got off mostly scottfree after committing a felony. C. it is wrong for a teacher to have a sexual relationship with a student.

[–]AlwaysABride -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

B. is a fact that I don't dispute. A & C are opinions that I do not share.

[–]heretohelp333 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

opinions are fine, but when its the law, one must still follow it

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you.

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