“Woman” defines incel

zastale · 2023-11-07T20:53:21+00:00

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You could possible be right on your last statement. They see a good thing and lock it down pretty quickly. As much as women like to front and say it's not true women's hormones do help her bond to a partner. So finding a partner and bonding to them early helps. Once a woman has had many partners the ability to bond diminishes. Do you date younger women out of curiosity or older?

Also I am married but I got married at 29. My husband is also in way better shape than Seth in that photo. He's 6'0 and about 165. He works out daily. Not because he cares what people think but because he cares about his health. To me it doesn't matter if my husband is 6'0. I'm only 5'2 and my father is 5'5 and one of the most incredible men I know. I would have happily married my husband if he was 5'7. Intellectually he's my equal and my best friend. I was with my ex for 10 years before him. From 19-29yrs old. I learned a lot of lessons about myself and being in a relationship. People can say a lot of things but at the end of the day you just want to find someone you feel completely comfortable and accepted by. There are a lot of not so pretty things that happen in a relationship. But to the other person it doesn't matter. I've been embarrassed many of times. But my husband has also followed it up with don't be embarrassed. It's true acceptance. A lot of people are just way to superficial and that doesn't last long in a deep meaningful relationship.

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I feel like you have everything that's needed to pursue a relationship other then the small town scenario. I actually met my husband when he was living with his parents. He was finishing his masters and it was cheaper to live at home. At the time I made triple his salary. It didn't matter to me though. I knew he was goal oriented and had a lot of potential. He was also kind, loyal and felt like my intellectual equal. He'd given up on dating. He hadn't had a long term relationship since he was 19 and he was 29. I'd been in a 10yr relationship like I'd told you so our worlds just collided and it was a good thing. Even if a woman isn't showing a romantic interest pick up on a few things about her that would lead you to believe she's single. If you get that far throw in you'd like to hang out again and talk about "whatever you talked about." It works really well if you use something that is easy to chat about but that she genuinely shows interest in and just ask her to grab lunch. Dinner always seems so formal. Also it's still daylight and sometimes it just makes it easier to chill and kind of go on your way. It's also cheaper on you. I'm hoping there is some where interesting enough to grab lunch in your small town. Forget all the formalities of being genuinely new to anything physical. That can come up later when she's interested in you. If she's a good woman she won't care. It's easy to teach a person what they like as long as they are open to talking about it. Lastly, take things slow at first. If you do kiss make it sweet & soft unless shes pushing for more. Most of the time men tend to get over zealous and it's just to much too quick.

All this to say even though you don't feel a romantic connection there when talking to women, if you are interested in her pursue a little more. Yes... getting turned down for a date isn't the easiest thing to go through but many women won't make the first move. It's up to you to do that. Btw can I ask how tall you are?

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I'm just one woman but I think your height is just fine personally. I think it's sounds like you are going to have to get out of your area. Are you at least closer to another town or a city? I would encourage you to try that. I know online dating has some negative connotations but I met my husband online. You sound like you have a lot to offer a woman besides living at home. You're a decent guy, looking to have a long term relationship. Your height is fine, you stay in shape, your working and you can hold a conversation well. I think it's your area. I live in the Midwest. People are mostly kind and talkative. Many men under six foot find girlfriends and wives. I'd push out side of your immediate town and open up to at least a 50 mile radius. Again I would meet someone for lunch. If you really hit it off with a girl then take her to dinner.

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Where I am it can get quite hot in the summer, it is not uncommon to see women wear shorts like that.

Like I said in my other comment, in today’s western society it absolutely is. Doesn’t make it any less sexual.

I’ve seen many men wearing like mid thigh shorts as well although I forgot the name for it now. So it really isn’t unusual for both men and women to wear shorter shorts here. It isn’t for sexual attention it’s because it’s 90 degrees+

Men wearing shorter shorts is a recent thing, but their sexual strategies are different.

Let me ask you another question. If she had been wearing jeans would it have made this video any less interesting? Do you think it wouldn’t have been posted here?

The video wouldn’t have been any less interesting, but it would certainly draw less attention to her Instagram.

Her IG is trash obviously, but her IG can only be used to apply to her perhaps but you are arguing in generalities

Why is it obvious?

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The “in todays western society” comment is a bit incorrect, because historically during hotter climates native Americans only wore clothing that amounted to a loincloth particularly and in some areas that’s all they wore year round (think places like Pheonix)

Warmer areas of the country have only been populated more with the broadened use of AC and the relaxation of fashion standards. Not to mention that average temperatures are rising in the Northern Hemisphere.

Men have worn short shorts for a long time even back into 1900s although the increased use of them was probably in the 50s and 60s

Her profile is trash because the poses she is doing are inappropriate and not how normal people pose. Also some of the clothing is way too tight way beyond what normal people wear and the poses she does with those are not normal

[–]zastale[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The “in todays western society” comment is a bit incorrect, because historically during hotter climates native Americans only wore clothing that amounted to a loincloth particularly and in some areas that’s all they wore year round (think places like Pheonix)

Comparing loin cloth to modern day leggings/spandex shorts is laughable. There’s far more instances of countries with hot climates where they wore loose/draped garments.

There’s backwater tribes in Africa where everyone’s naked. Should we adapt their normal? Why aren’t people in Islamic countries boiling to death? They’re covered head to toe.

Warmer areas of the country have only been populated more with the broadened use of AC and the relaxation of fashion standards. Not to mention that average temperatures are rising in the Northern Hemisphere.

What a convenient excuse for women to dress more whorishly. This is akin to them saying it helps with performance in the gym. What a joke.

Men have worn short shorts for a long time even back into 1900s although the increased use of them was probably in the 50s and 60s

Again, men and women have different sexual strategies.

Her profile is trash because the poses she is doing are inappropriate and not how normal people pose. Also some of the clothing is way too tight way beyond what normal people wear and the poses she does with those are not normal

The point was that she’s essentially a prostitute which was obvious from the video I posted. I didn’t even need to open her IG to know.

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No she’s dressed like normal.

In today’s overly sexualized and degenerative society? She’s dressed conservatively.

Again if you want to see a woman wearing shorts , step outside. It’s extremely normal for people to wear, that isn’t generating viewership.

It absolutely is generating viewership.

That’s because the Overton Window for fashion has shifted significantly in the last few decades. It’s “normal” to see girls in the gym wearing spandex shorts that warp into their ass, but that doesn’t make it any less obvious as to what they’re doing. There’s a constant sexual level present at all times now thanks to the now normalized fashion for women, whereas it was reserved for certain intimate/private spaces in the past.

Girls wearing form fitting leggings were unthinkable a few decades ago, and now they’re the most common leg wear for women.

The fat woman is what makes this unique because you don’t see women looking like her every day

I agree. It’s also plausible the host knew of this and dressed for the part. Money and attention is their religion.

[–]uselessloner123 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

She isn’t dressed conservatively, she’s dressed normal.

Your other argument isn’t valid because short shorts have been around since at least the 60s, so the vast majority of people in the US are used to seeing them and do not feel any type of sexual attraction or energy because that has been the baseline of attire for us. If she was to travel to Arabia looking like that, I’m sure the sentiment would be different. Similarly, in some tribes only a loincloth is worn which is far less than what she is wearing but that is the normal for them.

Bit of a long winded point but what I’m trying to say is to even be truly noticed or for people to give you any attention be it physical or sexual you have to dress in a manner that is wildly different from the norm. If you dress normal for that society, it doesn’t really have any sort of connotation associated with it

Also, form fitting leggings have existed since the 60s and 70s it’s just that the super tight ones that are modern. The super tight ones though are rare to see irl. Far more IG thots wear those than real people.

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She isn’t dressed conservatively, she’s dressed normal.

Did you miss the part where I said in today’s degenerate society?

Your other argument isn’t valid because short shorts have been around since at least the 60s, so the vast majority of people in the US are used to seeing them and do not feel any type of sexual attraction or energy because that has been the baseline of attire for us. If she was to travel to Arabia looking like that, I’m sure the sentiment would be different. Similarly, in some tribes only a loincloth is worn which is far less than what she is wearing but that is the normal for them.

So the shorts women wear nowadays are the same as the ones back then? Try being more disingenuous.

Bit of a long winded point but what I’m trying to say is to even be truly noticed or for people to give you any attention be it physical or sexual you have to dress in a manner that is wildly different from the norm. If you dress normal for that society, it doesn’t really have any sort of connotation associated with it

Just because showing more skin is common now than before, doesn’t mean they have to show even less skin to be noticed. Women know exactly what they’re doing.

Also, form fitting leggings have existed since the 60s and 70s it’s just that the super tight ones that are modern. The super tight ones though are rare to see irl. Far more IG thots wear those than real people.

I don’t know of the demographics where you live, but in California they’re very common. Girls in middle school are wearing them. It’s disgusting.

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Clothing standards is based on the culture you live in.

The shorts in the 60s and 70s were about as short as today actually. The only difference is there wasn’t super tight clothing worn but form fitting clothing.

Standing out doesn’t necessarily mean less skin, it could even in fact be more skin as well or something totally out of the norm for the area. Think of seeing a girl in a fancy long dress at McDonald’s or swimwear. Both are generating attention because they deviate from the norm. If you go to a park in the summer, people wearing short shorts is the norm and isn’t generating attention.

I don’t actually believe you that middle school girls are wearing tight yoga pants to school. Where I am in the US you see short shorts, shorts, jeans, etc depending on the time of weather. Pretty much all of the clothing worn is either form fitting or loose very similar to the shorts of the 70s. Nobody wears super tight clothing. I’ve seen it maybe once or twice at the gym when I was in university. For context I live in a smaller city that leans conservative but MAGA conservative not upper class conservative.

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Title	“Woman” defines incel
Author	zastale
Upvotes	53
Comments	162
Date	November 7, 2023 8:53 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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