We Often Suggest Therapy. Has Anyone Actually Taken This Advice?

Exis007 · 2024-05-04T13:57:47+00:00

So, I give this advice and I'm obviously not ex-anypill but I've had a lot of therapy. Therapy is great. Any time my mental health gets bad and I get I'm really struggling with life or my emotions, off to therapy I go! Provided I can afford it. I have insurance that covers it now, but there were times in my young adulthood where that was an expense I couldn't cover. But when I couldn't afford it, I still sought it. I read books and articles, I tried strategies that come from therapy. If you can't afford to go and talk to someone every week, I'd still recommend reading texts written by therapists that offer modalities you can try to manage symptoms if you're suffering.

xvszero · 2024-05-04T14:17:50+00:00

Not for any of these type of issues. But I started cbt for my anxiety about a year ago and it's been a very good experience. Honestly I kind of already knew a lot of what my therapist told me but it's good to have the language to describe it now (like saying "oh I'm catastrophizing again" or "oh this doesn't have to be all or nothing") and some strategies for dealing with bad thought patterns. And honestly, it's been nice just to have someone to talk to who can tell me that a lot of people go through the same things I do so I don't feel so alone. I'm in a new country and I have my wife (who is great) but I don't really have much other support here.

We actually recently stopped the cbt because I basically hit all of my goals and she said I'd probably benefit more from a general therapist now, so I want to find a general therapist and keep up therapy.

Actually I think cbt could help a lot of red / black pill types because they definitely use all or nothing and catastrophic thinking and other bad mental loops we can get ourselves into. Therapy helps you recognize the mental traps you get into and gives you strategies for getting past them.

bluemagex2517 · 2024-05-04T18:56:51+00:00

My former roommate was a self identified incel when I met him. He was 20 very nearly 21 at the time. Through a long series of conversations and socialization with my friend/neighbor group he eventually came out of his shell. Eventually he started dating and such (by age 23). Along the way he did therapy. It was a piece of the puzzle for him. Eventually he was referred to a psychiatrist who diagnosed him with OCD. He also dealt with a lot of unresolved issues concerning his druggie neglectful parents. I don't know all the details and didn't press him for any. By the time he started therapy he was already well on the way to learning to socialize better.

SufficientDot4099 · 2024-05-04T19:31:39+00:00

Therapy really is much more important than anything you can find online. The reason your friends or random people online give bad, generic advice is because they are not professionals and they don't know what they're talking about. You should really consider that every time you get frustrated by advice you see online. You should not expect anything better from random people.

EdgewaterEnchantress · 2024-05-04T21:22:55+00:00

I have and it didn’t really work for me because my pathology is too complex, and I have yet to meet a therapist who knows what to do with me.

My psychiatrist is pretty good though!

Even if all of this other stuff is overwhelming and it sucks, at least I have that Ol’ kook who actually listens to me! But I didn’t even meet him until I was like 30 and we got lucky that my husband’s union just so happened to have a decent psychiatrist.

That said, over 90% of the time I will still recommend “go to therapy” cuz it never hurts to try! The reality is that the majority of people with more common pathologies can get a lot out of conventional “vanilla” therapy!

This often includes people who have Depression and anxiety, independent of any kind of substantial major trauma, or Mood / Personality Disorders. Maybe some people who have ADHD or ASD. Often people who come from “single parent homes,” or have some kind of “attachment issues” cuz of their parents, but were still taken care of enough, and made it to adulthood, in one piece. Adults presently suffering from “chronic stress,” thanks to modern work culture, and sometimes even people with OCD or Simple PTSD. Stuff like this.

Because the reality is this represents the majority of people who would benefit from some kind of therapy and mental health treatment and they fall into one or more of the categories listed above! ⬆️

It’s when we are talking about major Mood and Personality Disorders, Dissociative Identity Issues, more severe ASD, psychosis, Schizophrenia/ Schizoaffective Disorders, complex Post Traumatic stress disorder, and things like this where conventional therapy usually won’t cut it.

But these more complicated pathologies are much more rare, thankfully! However that also means that they are “less studied” and way harder to treat, and you probably can’t do it effectively without a psychiatrist.

Schmutzcityusa · 2024-05-04T22:42:37+00:00

Not sure if this counts because I’ve been in therapy since I was 4 due to having bad OCD. More recently though I’ve started to take therapy more seriously not just for ocd or a specific diagnosis but also for my attachment issues which relate to romantic relationships that led me to be vulnerable to red pill type stuff. I got into an abusive relationship and met my match when I tried to love bomb her and had been getting away with manipulating women for a couple years before with that type of stuff. Anyways, I’ve made a good amount of progress. I’m healthier now but i still struggle with trust issues and other attachment issues. I’m still in therapy, now for PTSD doing EMDR. I didn’t start therapy because of this subreddit, I just discovered it a few months ago and I’m mainly here to give advice to other guys who are struggling.

Key-Sundae1909 · 2024-05-05T10:34:58+00:00

I took the advice. It was o.k but not a massive help. Just a lot of someone listening and offering their feedback. It would have been comforting if I was paying a load of cash for a professional friend. Not great for sound advice. The therapist I saw also worked from a particular model / school of thought so was pretty dogmatic in their thinking.

ThePrinceJays · 2024-05-07T13:03:07+00:00

The problem I’ve seen is that people often answer people’s questions simply saying “Just go get therapy.” Without even trying to come up with any solutions for their problems.

Literally comes across as lazy and straight up unhelpful a lot of times. I applaud the people that actually try to help people by offering solutions and advice WITH their therapy suggestions. But I haven’t seen a lot of that here, just a few instances.

DangerStarfish · 2024-05-13T10:29:08+00:00

I spent a lot of my early childhood, teenage years, and early and mid 20's in many a therapist's office. And have gone through the doozy of being almost dying from complications directly caused by psychiatric prescriptions. On multiple occasions.

I outright refuse to go at this point.

Every therapist i have ever had the displeasure of being coerced to do business with has offered me some new drug and referred me to a psychiatrist for a prescription.

I attended group therapy, under duress once. I left early, about 20 mins in, it was making me hate people more than I already do.

PutsWomenOnPedestal · 2024-05-04T12:44:02+00:00

Nein. My first foray into therapy got interrupted by the pandemic. Wasn’t interested in continuing online therapy which seemed even less genuine than face to face. Mostly because it didn’t feel like the therapist was doing anything. I was doing all the talking. She didn’t ask any questions to attempt a diagnosis like a physician would do. She offered no treatment plan. I didn’t see the point in an open ended “treatment” with no deliverables or due date which would be the bare minimum in any other profession. It seems like mental health care is very much in its infancy, like medicine in the dark ages.

I do hope others had a better experience though. This is just my perspective. By no means is this meant as discouragement against therapy. I desperately need therapy. I just don’t have confidence the current state-of-art or the therapists available under my insurance will be able to help. Not shelling out a hundred bucks or more a visit out of pocket to access an expert who might actually help

sandgroper2 · 2024-05-06T22:20:21+00:00

Nope, never done any.

Where/when I grew up therapy was only for "nutjobs", what these days would probably be classified as severe psychosis. It's not easy to overcome those early learned attitudes without therapy, so it's pretty much a Catch 22.

I've never been comfortable talking about feelings, emotions and all that stuff. With anyone. I suspect that I'd need several years of very expensive therapy to overcome that before I could get to the point where a therapist could even start working on fixing me.

Even if I thought it would do any good, there's half a gazillion things that I'd rather spend my time and money on.

Title	We Often Suggest Therapy. Has Anyone Actually Taken This Advice?
Author	HelenHavok
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Date	May 4, 2024 10:08 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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