Why are single red pill men angry at single mothers?

alexbrove · 2022-01-18T06:56:09+00:00

Hatred for single mothers is the ultimate hated for all Red pillers. They say that they hate women who are overweight, women who earn too much, women with too many degrees, women who have pets, women with high body counts.. But the ultimate hatred is single mothers. This demographic is the perfect group to hate because they represent every fear that the red pill man has!

Think of it this way, they are obsessed with finding virgins or women with low body counts, they laugh about pump and dump, so basically they just want to use women for their bodies. They believe that men should be allowed to cheat within marriage and that women should give 'sex, silence and sandwiches'. They get angry when they see a woman file for divorce as they believe that all woman are hypergamous, and any woman that leaves a marriage or relationship is leaving because she's not loyal (not because she's fed up)

So think of it this way, every time you see a single mother, it's the clear sign that a relationship didn't work out and that's something that Red pillers can't cope with. In their minds, if a relationship doesn't work out, it must be the woman's fault. She gave up sex too easily, she wasted her 20s, she had daddy issues, she wanted to entrap a HVM, she was hypergamous etc.

If you see things this way, then the next thought process is that this same single mother should be punished for her bad and reckless behaviour and there's no better punishment than to let her stay single and raise those kids on her own. As Kevin Samuels likes to say - let her die alone!!

In their eyes, she must have slept around when she was younger, she must have been chasing after Chads, she must have been a terrible gf/wife, and now that she's had her fun... she is looking for a man to love her and love her kids? Hell no! She's only going to use you! Leave her alone and don't even consider dating her!!

Basically, Red pillers are already so convinced that they are being used by all women, so they feel that a single mother will be the ultimate user. They fear that she'll use them just as she 'used' the father of her child/ren.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just trying to imagine what goes on in a red pillers mind!!!

Also, if any single mothers are reading this and you're still open to finding love, know that there are good men out there that will love you for who you are and will love your kid/s too. Stay away from red pilled men, you deserve better!!

WannaBeA_Vata · 2022-01-18T19:42:56+00:00

A single mother is a woman who has what they consider the ultimate "she can never abandon me, no matter what I do" qualifier (a child), yet they are walking around free and happily independent. Red pill men are, ultimately, terrified of being alone or vulnerable.

Don't let that trick any passers-by into believing they can change a red-piller. These people do not see their views as a problem, and if they are going to change, it will never be from external forces.

You can't love someone out of their own insecurity. You can only maybe make yourself and your needs small enough to not pose a threat while you're in their presence, and they will always, always, ALWAYS want you to be a little bit smaller than you are.

jejuned · 2022-01-18T07:06:26+00:00

single mothers represent something they fear extremely deeply -- being "used" (for whatever value they offer to begin with) and then left.

it's not single motherhood that i think they object to (or well, not primarily at least), i think it's men being left by women at all. a child is just physical evidence that this has occurred -- even if you get to the point where you have a relationship, even if you have a baby with her, she still might leave you. that is too much for a lot of these dudes to take.

perpetualstudent101 · 2022-01-18T06:28:55+00:00

Maybe because going out with a single mother entails more than just having sex with them.

Red pills seem to have a very immature and myopic view of sexuality and relationships, so something that requires maturity and commitment is scary.

Idk if that’s accurate but it’s my two cents

HGW86 · 2022-01-18T09:31:45+00:00

I think all of the other answers provided are accurate (well, depending on each person, men are not monoliths and have their own specific issues). But I'd also like to add a lot of red-pill content is littered with divorce and cheating horror stories which they're entire intent is to get angry at women, single mothers def can be a common villain in these stories.

I can distinctly remember back when I was in these "red-pilled" forums, there was a rage-inducing story about a woman who cheated on her husband with another man and got the courts to force him to pay child support to the child that wasn't his! I'm sure your friend's probably heard like 50,000 variations of that particular rage-baiter.

Hell, someone else I had a discussion with in this board brought up a guy named Rich Cooper (I think that's his name, I can't keep tabs on all these fuckers, there's too many of them) and the thing that was pinned at the top of his twitter feed was "How to prepare to fight your wife in court!". And to think that guy was trying to promote an "alpha" lifestyle! fucking douchebag!

I'd also point out there's usually a clear inferiority complex going on that the red-pill exploits and gives a scapegoat to. I can imagine a lot of men see single mothers and all they can think about was the men she fucked previously. Sad and envious that they'll never be good enough to do the same, the red pill does a pretty effective job at turning that sadness into anger and hate, which is really really fucked up if you ask me.

Carloverguy20 · 2022-01-18T23:26:46+00:00

I think it's because most of them came from a single mother household and may have a disdain for them, because the father wasn't around much. It's okay that you don't want to date them, but bashing them and calling them bad names is wrong.

They are projecting their bad experience with single moms onto all single mothers.

T4mvv1lc0xx · 2022-01-18T10:29:34+00:00

I think they just don't want to raise another man's seed and I believe it's ok to have that preference. As for Kanye, he's the villain I'm sorry. Kim has tolerated a lot of nonsense from him. Countless embarrassing episodes and Kanye is very immature and needs to take his meds

cunningcaring · 2022-01-18T18:13:39+00:00

Single mothers are single because they were married to jerks.

Redpillers are jerks.

Thus, these relationships never work out.

RealRussShackleford · 2022-01-18T16:54:55+00:00

The ultimate goal of RP is to basically go back to a time where women were essentially trapped in a marriage because she’d live in poverty if she left.

So the single mom is the ultimate villain to that end. It’s like a “bro-code” type thing with them. “How dare you date a single mom?? She should never be allowed to move on, she should be lonely forever!”

gettingbicurious · 2022-01-18T22:13:27+00:00

I mean... I would not date a single dad. Why would I raise another woman's child? Most people would not date someone with kids. There's nothing immature about it.

Dragon7247 · 2022-01-29T04:16:34+00:00

As a former Red Piller, for me (I can't speak for them all) it was that the pregnant women had sex with a douchebag that didn't care about her and just left her once she got pregnant and I didn't want to "clean up the guy's mess" when he was the one who had the fun of making it. I didn't want to be the guy to take care of the other guy's kid while I get nothing. I was afraid the girl would just use me for money and free labor.

qclady · 2022-01-18T15:23:13+00:00

I feel like it’s because single mothers represent a woman that they can’t have because she doesn’t meet their standards. They are angry at her for not being for them.

Otherwise, the single mother’s wouldn’t even be on their radar. Not interested? Move on and not give it any thought. The seething anger says there’s more going on than absence of interest.

CynthiaSonier · 2022-01-18T18:26:57+00:00

I suspect that a lot of incels were raised by deeply wounded single mothers that left them with wounds of their own that nobody even allows them to acknowledge they had until they encountered the Red Pill.

Feminism is the idea that women are people, not goddesses, people prone to the full range of human emotions. I know, I am one and I grew up with a woman who was abusive verbally to me and physically and verbally abusive to her three sons.

She had been abused by her father when she was a child. Later, she had children with a gay man who left her to come out of the closet. We saw her hit her kids and do cruel mental tricks (like call them by her rapist father's first name when they showed any signs of agression. They were 6 and 9 years old.) Nobody called her out on it, just a chorus of yes women congratulating that "kween" on surviving her rapist father (did she really?), surviving her "f*g" ex, surviving her asshole boyfriend, surviving those two asshole children, nobody told her " Yes, kudos on surviving being abused as a kid, but you are not a kid anymore, you are an adult. An abusive adult and it is your responsability to fix that, not your kids."

Some feminists look at female violence, including towards children with the same naiveté and defensiveness as a guy who burts into a discussion about about rape and says "...but not all men!". They will say "but it's patriarchy who hurts men" or "Boys are a afraid girls will laugh at them, girls are afraid men will rape and kill them". That's the exact thing that mother did to her sons: use her rape as a bludgeon to hurt them.

Then, someday online, those boys are love bombed by what may be the first people to tell them they are entitled to human compassion even though they have penises. They sell them a magic past (that never existed) where divorces are punishable by death and mothers are 50s-style stepford wives with no negative emotions whatsoever. How can they resist?

Fair_Question_6969 · 2022-01-18T18:01:09+00:00

Well they don't have patience... It's also why they don't have a SO.

-Akrasiel- · 2022-01-18T18:19:57+00:00

I would consider myself a man that views the dating market through a red pill lens, and I have zero hatred towards single mothers. I've been working in the hospitality industry as a side gig for a long time, and through those years I have befriended countless single mothers.

I would say that one of the tenants (if you could even call it that) of RP ideology is the fundamental understanding that as a man, you will never be a single mother's priority in a romantic or even just a plutonic relationship, and this has been my experience in every interaction I've had with single mothers in my lifetime. This where I feel men diverge in their responses to this reality.

I totally understand that, as a single mother, her kid(s) ultimately come first.. that's how it should be and it's not a reason to hate on single mothers.. But other men who claim to have an RP view get frustrated with that reality and take their frustrations out on single mothers because they feel that being a single mother decreases one's "sexual marketplace value" and a single mother should be "grateful" that the man is "lowering himself" to take her seriously for a romantic relationship so they get pissed off when they are rejected by someone they feel is "lower" than themself.

I think the major problem, when it comes to ideologies of all kinds, is that anyone subscribing to any part of said ideology is painted with a broad brush as though they adhere to every tenant and every interpretation when reality is way more nuanced.

I'm fully aware that there are single mothers out there that would be better matches for me that women who have no children, but with amount of baggage a single mother brings into a relationship, I haven't met one yet (not to say it's impossible) that had the ability to offer more pros to counteract the cons.

If anyone is open to a discussion, I'm all for it. Just felt like sharing my take on the issue as someone that sees value in approaching the dating market through an RP lens.

elgigglez39 · 2022-01-18T16:14:43+00:00

Hatred? Lol

Automatic_Car_9765 · 2022-04-11T21:29:22+00:00

The Manosphere is a space for nice guys who got rejected by Women for the supposed Chads and Tyrone’s. So when these guys see a single mother, in their minds chad and Tyrone must’ve dumped her because to them the single moms ARE the women who turned them down for Chad and Tyrone, I heard quite a few redpillers say “We are not takin care of your F boys brat, You’re on your own” What these clown fail to realize is not every single mother story is the same. They could’ve just got fed up because the husband was abusive, Might have molested the child, might have went to jail, may have passed away, killed in military combat. Heck he might have gotten Abducted by Aliens, All kinds of different factors play into it, but no, these guys paint all single mothers with the same brush.

Title	Why are single red pill men angry at single mothers?
Author	Scorpio_Kiev
Upvotes	33
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Date	January 18, 2022 5:24 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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