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[–]gingerandlime63 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Please reconsider the concept of “how can we protect ourselves from getting dumped over this”. There is so much more wrong in this relationship than how often he is “getting” sex.
[–]dating-adventures17 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yes! You’re right. I made an edit to my comment but can’t edit the post. A better question to ask: “how can we avoid such a man who is this shallow?”
[–]Schmurby6 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Simple. You break up with shallow people because they’re boring.
How did she stay with this guy for three years? He’s obviously not much in the sack! 😜
[–]glendoraza53 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Well it is a good idea to break up over sexual incompatibility. I would advise you to break up with someone who is not looking for the same thing as you
Compatibility is important for the longevity of a bond.
How to protect ourselves? My neighbor has a low libido so she married a guy with low libido. They are intimate that way once a year. Their love language is quality time together
So short answer is committing to someone who is sexually compatible. Even then people change and break ups can still happen
[–]Rudihayward2 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Best response on this thread.
[–]EarthKveik32 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
"Girlfriend of 3 years"
Yeah. Bit of a give away right there. He was never serious about her in the first place, and is now looking for a way to ditch her that doesn't make him look like the limp-dicked bad guy.
[–]dating-adventures9 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This is a good point.
[–]whiskey_and_oreos30 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Tell me you've never put a dish in the sink without telling me.
[–]samedinuitmort26 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It seems to me like he’s also a victim of misogyny (as most men are), and his self esteem comes from his sexuality. I say that because he said he feels “unwanted”, and there are many many ways to want a person outside of sex. He might have been passionately wanted, for his company, his character, his laughter and humor, his presence, his cuddles and comfort, but her ability to have sex is just about once a week. For men who are taught to value themselves for their sexual achievement only, that’s a blind spot. I feel sorry for him - feeling unwanted because you’re not constantly being fucked sounds pretty sad.
Outside of this, if it was really a mismatch in libidos, I’d hope the guy would pick up on that earlier than 3 years in!
My best advice/guess is that a true HVM would not show signs of putting sex on a pedestal, and would value himself for more than his sexual “achievements” as well. That and being mature enough to understand that the frequency of sex naturally fluctuates over the years. Doing it every day isn’t even all that from what I’ve heard of couples trying to conceive.
The eating out bit had me crack up a bit. But it’s mostly sad, he objectifies her and himself too.
[–]Xx_SwordWords_xX24 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
He should probably quit porn and talk to her about what she needs to feel desire and in the mood. It sounds like a chore for her to just fuck on demand, because he hasn't bothered to do anything to get her in the mood besides try and demand a higher frequency of service. 🙄
[–]pinkgirly11123 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
i have realized the only reason most men even want a relationship is for regular sex. that’s all.
[–]gingerwabisabi22 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I don't think breaking up over sexual incompatibility is shallow. It's quite possible he was a terrible boyfriend, but given the information we have it looks to me like he wanted to be a good lover to her but she just isn't very into it. There could be any number of reasons and back story that would make him a bad person, but this does not at the moment seem to be a case of a man dumping a sick woman or any of those shallow reasons we see a lot. It looks like a sad but needed end to a relationship. Both can now go find someone better suited for them.
[–]dating-adventures2 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
What about breaking up because the woman wants to wait XYZ amount of time until intimacy? Would a HVM wait?
[–]FUBARfromLSA6 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Is that what’s really bothering you? Because I don’t think what this guy did is all that horrible.
It just wasn’t a match, and that’s ok. It does seem like he could’ve figured out sooner though.
And yes a HVM man would wait.
[–]dating-adventures3 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It seems like he was quick to throw away a three year relationship, sounds like there was more going on that just the sex stuff. If he was gonna break up over it, why wait 3 years and waste her time?
[–]FUBARfromLSA2 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Sorry- I thought you were the OP in my last comment.
He had a conversation where she firmly stated her boundaries and he ended it.
In my opinion, she had probably stated her firm boundaries before and he either thought he could live with them or more likely thought he could change her mind.
Honestly this is why I date more than one man.
[–]glendoraza6 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I would say he would wait
[–]gingerwabisabi3 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Of course he would wait. If a guy is really into a girl and has reason to believe she is into him, it's not a problem to wait until the right time. If after a sexual relationship is established, it turns out they have drastically different desire levels, it's a GOOD thing if they break up. Far better than to end up miserable for life.
What about waiting for marriage? At that point they’d divorce? Are there ways to test sexual compatibility without actually having sex?
In that case, I would see first how you feel around him and when you guys touch. How is the chemistry? Do you not only feel love for him but also happy/arousal feelings (can feel like tingling, butterflies in the stomach, being preoccupied with wanting him, etc), or is it too calm, like just a friend energy? Is he on your mind a lot? Do you WANT and eagerly look forward to getting naked with him (even if you're scared) or is it something you're kind of dreading? If that basic chemistry test is good on your part, then start thinking about what you want your sex life to look like and when it's the right time start talking with him about it. I grew up in a "waiting for marriage" religious milieu and while I decided I didn't want that, I do think women in that situation should still experiment with masturbating and learning their own body. That will help them a lot with figuring out how often they actually want it and what they like.
I will say that if you are waiting for marriage, there's a good possibility you have been raised to think it would be the end of the world if you don't end up long term with the first person you have sex with. I do understand that fear and while I enjoyed my puppy love first experience, it turned out 100% fine with me to eventually move on from what was an unhealthy relationship and find someone else. No long term emotional effects or anything.
Also, if you aren't experienced in romance and sex it's normal to be very afraid of the ins and outs of it all and how to know if the person is the right one. The weird thing is, you WILL know when you meet a good person for you - it's surprisingly comfortable and easy. It's good to put yourself out there and go on dates so you learn who does not fit and then at some point you will meet someone and be like "What? Why isn't this hard like the others?"
[–]cakewalkofshame15 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This is not a loss on her part. I don't think either should stay through such a big incompatibility. Also ICK at him expecting her to let him go down on her when she isn't in the mood. She prob knows it's not about her at all but his gratification and it (rightly) feels like he is masturbating with her body to get off. That and/or he's terrible at it.
[–]Lost_Kale905 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I can't stand guys who claim to be givers and loove going down on a woman. They are still using women for their own gratification.
[–]cakewalkofshame5 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yep, you know the feeling. I had a guy go down on me when I was super depressed and did not consent, I just was so sad I didn't fight it. So I know what it's like to just lie there while some fool beats off to the delusional idea of his own sexual prowess with his nasty scratchy face and slobbery tongue on my bits. It's dreadful.
[–]dating-adventures11 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Is this a case of something deeper? When I was reading this, what jumped out was his ability to throw away 3 years over sex frequency. It seems like he didn’t truly love her. And everyone is defending him in the comments, calling him brave.
So, how do we know a man won’t turn on us like this? Especially if we have sexual boundaries?
I think one approach is to find out about his sexual past, and why his former relationships didn’t work out. If he mentions “sexual incompatibility” it might be a tell that he will likely throw away another relationship over the frequency he gets sucked off.
Edit: a better question to ask: how can we protect ourselves from a man shallow enough to dump a woman over this? Can’t edit my title in my post
[–]wemadethemachine5 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
These are great questions which I honestly am too inexperienced to know the answer to but I'm getting a little disturbed by the replies... "Sexual incompatibility" and "He's a victim of misogyny"? Idk what is going on here, this sub has always had issues (especially re: victim blaming) but I'm surprised that these replies are so sympathetic to him, maybe we're being infiltrated or the sub is finally turning now that it has grown so much.
[–]NoMoreLVM6 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
He acts as if sex frequency is completely irrelevant to all other aspects of the relationship. They’ve been together for three years and he doesn’t know if she’s vanilla or not? He clearly doesn’t take any emotional or intellectual interest in her as a person, no wonder she doesn’t want to sleep with him. Good riddance
[–]Lost_Kale906 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Honestly I'm glad he broke up with her instead of staying with her and cheating, gaslighting, manipulating or abusing her (obviously can't be sure he didn't though).
"She feels like a sex toy" - sums up most sex with men.
I don't care about sex that much, so for me I'm going to find someone who also doesn't care about sex that much. So that might include - guys who have bigger and better things to do with their time, guys who don't exhibit sexual or emotional immaturity (i.e. making sexual jokes, making comments on my ass or boobs, throwing tantrums...), guys who don't like misogynistic movies or celebs, guys who don't want to "cuddle" or "massage" me, and guys with integrity (so they can tell me up front how they feel about sex). I also am not having sex these days, so from the beginning most guys will take themselves out of the picture.
[–]MamaGia4 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This was a big issue in my previous relationship.
He couldn't figure out why I didn't want to fuck a man who sleeps in his own filth, won't wash a dish, won't flush (nevermind clean his toilet).
Once you have to ask a man to clean up after himself it's over. In my experience once Tou see that man as a child (because they act like children) you don't want to have sex with him.
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[–]scorchedsouI0 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
You can't "protect" yourself from this. Sexual compatibility is very important, in the sense that both people need to not only have a healthy understanding of sex, but a similar libido. I'm sure she's been feeling pressured to engage in sexual acts to please him, which isn't a good way to live at all.
If a man wants a relationship with a lot of sex and the woman doesn't, the man needs to respect the woman's desires and boundaries and either adapt to her needs, or break up.
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