The misandry denialism staircase

Same-Rabbit2531 · 2025-12-28T06:19:06+00:00

FR like...

Misandry is real, harmful, and systemic, but it stems from sexism against women and misogyny.

...Who's gonna tell em misogyny also stems from misandry?

GorgonzolaJam · 2025-12-28T08:40:01+00:00

Well thought-out. I've saved this for future use. Thanks!

Even the wikipedia article for misandry struggles to acknowledge that it exists:

Men's rights activists (MRAs) and other masculinist groups have characterized modern laws concerning divorce, domestic violence, conscription, circumcision and treatment of male rape victims as examples of institutional misandry.

However, in virtually all societies, misandry lacks institutional and systemic support comparable to misogyny, the hatred of women.

Fronting scareword "MRAs" to cast doubt on the sources "characterizing" modern laws as misandrist and then immediately denying that misandry has any weight or force in modern society.

They get away with it because there's 40 years of feminists literature that has cast doubt on the concept of misandry and since they have "sources", they can write it on wikipedia.

This is another example of the feminist stranglehold on academia making our job as male advocates very difficult.

A 2023 research article, which combined multiple studies conducted by the authors, found that feminists are no more likely to be misandrist than other groups, including non-feminist men and women. The authors coined the term "The Misandry Myth" to describe the popular notion that misandry is commonplace among feminists.[14]'

This is new.

Yes, because people are always honest in self-reporting surveys and never represent the side they WANT to be true rather than the side that is true.

All you have to do is go to any feminist space, IRL or online, to see that feminists are, indeed, quite misandrist.

From the "Misandry Myth":

Participants also underestimated feminists’ warmth toward men, an error associated with hostile sexism and a misperception that feminists see men and women as dissimilar.

LOL. I was just in a feminist sub asking about Chomsky and Epstein and it was filled with "He's a man so it's not surprising because men will always take advantage of women if they can get away it it".

Social feminism absolutely considers men fundamentally different than women in that men are bad and women are good.

Sorry, bit of a tangent there.

SpicyMarshmellow · 2025-12-28T10:16:20+00:00

The Narcissist's Prayer:

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did, you deserved it.

Subpar-Amoeba · 2025-12-28T12:47:16+00:00

Not sure if this is part of a staircase, but I see these often:

Misandry is real, and harmful but it's from women who have suffered abuse.

Misandry is real, but it's "punching up" so that's good actually.

It's kind of weird how much effort people put into justifying hate.

lemons7472 · 2025-12-28T08:34:49+00:00

Yeah I hate all of these arguments that people will use as a way to sheid criticism of Misandry, because they tend to ignore or excuse A LOT of forks of hatred, sometimes by even victimizing the woman and blaming it on misogony (hated of women) even in cases where misogony has nothing to do with it.

I think it’s just that they choose not to see these things as harmful, and prefer to downplay it. For example, all of these people 1-7, do not see it as hatred, or see it as equally harmful when a man is abused, or harmed by a woman or man. “Misandry only annoys” is a phrase used to downplay it, because they do not see things such as male rape and abuse, as Misandry, or as bad enough to where they should be seen as a societal issue.

If a woman rapes or abuses a man, or she has the belief that it’s ok to do these things to men, the people who make these arguments, 1-7, will be ignorent and won’t see it as equally bad as they would the reverse. They will insist that because of women being hated, that’s why she is like this. They don’t see it as misandry, and will try to twist it into how women are hated. Any viewpoint where men are seen as the total victim in the case of Misandry, isn’t accepted…

Unless its in the lens of patriarchy/misogyny and how men are expected to prove their masculity and to be superior to women. Thats the only viewpoint they accept, because male disposability isn’t a true thing to them. Only “men bad, men are raised to be evil”-type logic.

Any women that abuse or hit men due to her social acceptance that as a woman, it’s ok for her to specificly harm men or social male disposability? Apparently It’s not because she views you as lesser and disposable, therefore as a punching bag, or because shes seen as morally superior compared to him, therefore people think the male deserves to be harmed…no, it’s because of misogyny…somehow it’s about how she’s actually socially hated as a woman by society, and that’s why she abuses you. It’s not because the abuser has her own messed up views that do not see you as human based off of gender.

SuperMario69Kraft · 2025-12-28T14:56:26+00:00

I think you're missing step #0, which is when they believe that misandry is a good thing.

I've never heard it myself in those words, but some feminists definitely seem to think that way.

BRCityzen · 2025-12-28T17:17:41+00:00

There's a common feminist argument that is similar to the one made by racists of color: just as racism is redefined as "hate + power" and therefore black people can't be racist (according to this view), women can't be misandrist because they have no power.

And obviously it's nonsense. The argument that women have no power is absurd on its face. And even if it were true, words have meanings in the English language, and neither racism nor sexism mean what they want to claim it means. But it is what it is.

_name_of_the_user_ · 2025-12-28T19:02:32+00:00

The Narcissist Prayer

“That didn’t happen.”

“And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.”

“And if it was, that’s not a big deal.”

“And if it is, that’s not my fault.”

“And if it was, I didn’t mean it.”

“And if I did, you deserved it.”

ByronsLastStand · 2025-12-28T11:13:52+00:00

Hit the nail on the head, OP

Wild_Lemon1472 · 2025-12-29T18:47:16+00:00

Dang so misandrists really are doing the Narcissist's prayer. The misandrists prayer goes like this: "Misandry isn't real And if it is, it isn't that bad. And if it is, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it is, I didn't mean it. And if I do mean it, you deserve it."

Seems to reflect a bit of the psychology behind these agents of the bourgeoisie who like to cosplay as feminists. Because that's what I believe misandrists are, they really don't have any principals and are in it for the money and the clout.

dsakc12 · 2025-12-29T01:40:33+00:00

You called out that it stems from misogyny but I’ve heard that misandry is caused by men and “society”

Responsible-Box9536 · 2026-01-08T04:44:52+00:00

Imagine if the gender was reversed (mysogyny) in the staircase.

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Redbluemr · 2025-12-28T15:37:24+00:00

The biggest perpetrators of Misandry are Men themselves.

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