Interesting conversation with my wife

Infinitewisdom1984 · 2019-03-22T14:02:12+00:00

Your wife has an std. Make her get tested and then divorce her

JerryNewton7 · 2019-03-22T13:49:25+00:00

The excuse for no sex is BS. Sorry to say, but it is likely she is getting some with another guy. Start looking for a lawyer.

TheOnlyThing-Sufjan · 2019-03-22T13:57:40+00:00

Sounds like she is one foot out of the door, espcially when she says that she is afraid you give her an std, basically meaning she is already convinced that you cheated. This could either mean she is trying to make you in her mind as bad as possible so she can leave without any guilt (all the while knowing she most likely had and equal or greater part in the marriage declining), or she is cheating and if you get tested and she as well she can blame it on you and not the other way around. Anyway sounds like a great wife (sarcasm), good for you getting your shit together 33 years is still very young the world is yours my friend best of luck.

krenovinspired · 2019-03-22T13:48:02+00:00

Pro-tip: Being married means compromising some happiness, even in the best of circumstances.

As to your last question, odds are she is projecting her own conscience. With a statement like that from her, if I were you, I'd go get myself tested. ASAP.

You don't mention kids. If there are none, or they are close to leaving to be on their own, I'd put a plan together and plan on divorce.

some1arguewithme · 2019-03-22T14:13:59+00:00

You need to install a home security video system Immediately! If she starts to feel like she is going to lose money or status she could start acting really crazy and start making shit up. Women panic, protect yourself brother.

2019-03-22T14:07:25+00:00

She stopped sleeping with you because her own herpes keeps flaring up.

da_pooch · 2019-03-22T13:41:19+00:00

Good for you for learning the truth and starting to get your life together. If divorce is a topic coming up, it's probably going to happen. As I'm sure you know, courts are stacked in the woman's favor. Get some assets such as gold/silver that retain value and can't be tracked (as in they don't know you own this, but only if you buy in cash). Perhaps leave some $ with a trusted friend or get a safety deposit box. Anything you can do to protect your well-being for the future.

UserName3267 · 2019-03-22T14:06:27+00:00

Projection on the sex part. Also why dont you divorce if youre so miserable?

Teflon08191 · 2019-03-22T14:57:21+00:00

The STD comment is probably her covering her ass for when she gets an STD and then gives it to you. You'll know the truth, but good luck convincing her friends/family that she's lying when she uses it as the reason to get a divorce.

lifeonvacation · 2019-03-22T14:34:14+00:00

Chances are you already have an STD from her, like everyone else said here get yourself checked. The flaw in being married and also red pill aware is that from now to the end of time you will be painfully aware that you are maintaining a losing war. You are not only responsible for your happiness, but you have to manage everything that is modern marriage.

She thinks you’re acting different because you are. Now you have to be resolute and cannot deviate from the new “act”, even more of a burden if you’re not conditioned that way.

PrinceRaj53 · 2019-03-22T14:07:37+00:00

Yes, and its a sign saying "run for your life" as well. Not even joking.

MuleFool42 · 2019-03-22T14:42:26+00:00

Sounds like projection to me. That is a completely lame excuse for not having sex.

Best of luck, it sounds like dramatic changes are in store.

puregoldlight · 2019-03-22T14:38:17+00:00

As you continue to digest the red pill you may start to feel your anger increase. Your past memories and all those past emotional shit tests she put you through may arise and hit you like a bag of bricks. Don’t lose your composure, if you are displaying outward aggression and your behavior has done a 180, she could call the cops or social services on you.

Older_Miggy · 2019-03-22T15:58:17+00:00

The minute she brought up getting an STD from you, you should have booted her.

Get a lawyer and get on with your life.

CoinSwapTrader · 2019-03-22T14:13:42+00:00

Nothing wrong with making her happy, if it makes you happy first!
Don't have to be a jerk with her if you feel like being kind...What counts is you do things that make you happy and share that happiness with others....be the example to follow!

SnarkyFella · 2019-03-22T16:43:07+00:00

The std thing is very weird man. I'm thinking she might have something.. Suggest that you both get tested?

doesthoughttakespace · 2019-03-22T16:49:04+00:00

She is cheating on you.

Loginwars · 2019-03-22T17:15:39+00:00

Your wife is cheating on you. She's projecting her fears of giving you an STD. sorry pal.

OLD-TRUCK · 2019-03-22T15:35:38+00:00

Got a coworker that's getting married at 19. Wish I could show him this post so he could see what he is in for.

itstreasonthen1986 · 2019-03-22T17:14:58+00:00

Fuckin drop this hoe and gyow. Garunteed she already has.

rsXer · 2019-03-22T15:49:36+00:00

Sorry to hear, but get her checked for stds. That’s some guilty talk. The process is hell but the other side is so worth it.

yurimodin · 2019-03-22T17:47:42+00:00

Get the meanest nastiest lawyer you can find ASAP!!!

KaitouNala · 2019-03-22T17:57:37+00:00

For that last part: Yes, when people start to accuse you of things you haven't done its often protection. A guilty mind will always see its crime everywhere else. "if i did it he must be doing it too"

2019-03-22T18:12:56+00:00

Uhm, get a STD test asap. She probably cheated on you and feels bad about it. Also, if you two don‘t have sex... someone will or has cheated. This doesn‘t have to do anything with MGTOW, this is common sense.

MonsterHipster · 2019-03-22T18:40:25+00:00

Get her a std test pronto

FlyingSexistPig · 2019-03-22T20:32:47+00:00

It took you 14 years to get into this mess. Give yourself 14 months to get out of it.

Your focus right now should be on you losing weight and going to the gym to build muscle. Upgrade your wardrobe, improve your personal hygiene.

That's it. Do this for 2 months solid.

BackToTheFront1 · 2019-03-22T14:37:59+00:00

I am so sorry this thot took 14 years away from you. Get out now.

Astral-Projector · 2019-03-22T15:44:00+00:00

What she is doing is to find reason to fuck up(cheat) or leave you. It's called projection. You know that female have zero accountability right?

She is talking to you with one foot out of the door. Time to lawyer up buddy. Because the shitfest is about to get started.

tirsomasterpupil · 2019-03-22T16:11:20+00:00

Your wife is doing you dirty behind your back (unprotected also). You're doing the right thing by setting your priorities and waking up to reality. Stay strong.

squiddy_s550gt · 2019-03-22T17:08:38+00:00

Yep, nearly every one of my ex's called me an ass, but it was always me dumping them, and not them dumping me. I wasn't mean, i just simply stood up for myself. Held them accountable.

Women don't really want to be in charge. They want to be taken care of. And they want to feel like man can take care of them.

As for your bonus question- she could be cheating, or she could just simply not be attracted anymore because of your past weak behavior.

Just live your own life and if she wants to tag along so be it.

And get a bike. Or two.

Titus_Aufidius · 2019-03-22T18:36:59+00:00

PUAs call it Dread Game.

Severian_99 · 2019-03-22T21:13:25+00:00

Even if she were not cheating, the fact that you are unhappy is reason enough to seriously evaluate your options, you only have one life to live, can you tolerate another 14 years of misery? Do you have kids and assets together? This will of course complicate things.

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2019-03-22T17:32:41+00:00

Find a divorce lawyer with a free consultation so you can get an idea of how the judges in your area work.

mrbump34 · 2019-03-22T18:23:02+00:00

Sounds like you've already checked out. I wish you the best of luck but I think your marriage is over.

Mecha_Hobbit · 2019-03-22T14:41:27+00:00

Get a vasectomy now. Baby trap is on the table. My vasectomy SAVED ME !!!

Watch "The Red Pill". 2016 documentary (I think it's free on Amazon Prime now)

Start talking to a lawyer.

SlainFunicle · 2019-03-22T14:54:49+00:00

i think you should have hidden camera installed when you are not there

meerita · 2019-03-22T17:15:12+00:00

Divorce her right away! but first, prepare the plan. Don't do things under rage effect. Get a lawyer, seize all your assets and distribute them to other temporal trusted owners. Better you divorce her than her doing it right away. You can also contract a private investigator to check if she's already cheating on you, and, if you can access her computer accounts, well, you will be in red pill heaven.

MichaelSkarn_FBI · 2019-03-22T17:17:12+00:00

Initially I was thinking to offer to go get tested together. But there’s a chance she’s already gotten treated if she had one, knowing she might have given it to you. Getting tested together might return a positive for you and negative for her, even though she’s the guilty party.

Get yourself tested on your own.

balancedben · 2019-03-22T17:26:36+00:00

divorce

She doesn't give you sex any more and you're still with her? That's pathetic. Have some self respect and immediately ditch the bitch. Stop being a simp. Acting all tough around her when she still refuses to ride your rod is a joke. She knows it so why don't you? Think about it. You've been supporting some useless cunt that doesn't even fuck you anymore. I don't see how you tolerate this shit.

At least have enough gumption to get a secret annulment and once it is finalised send the wife off on some 1 month get away vacation (w/out telling her tbe marriage has been annuled)sell the house for dirt cheap,put in your two weeks notice at your job,and skip the country (all before she gets back) and go to some place that doesnt have extradition laws.

TruthSeekingPerson · 2019-03-22T17:37:43+00:00

It sounds like a shit test. The good news is that by being willing to walk away you can win the shit test. Either way you win.

ae9bf3c4f3f · 2019-03-22T18:03:57+00:00

You should get tested now but hide the results from her then insist both of you got get tested to find out.

2019-03-22T18:43:47+00:00

You need a divorce ASAP.

CrackingYs · 2019-03-22T18:46:18+00:00

You got her hamster wheel spinning. Now she'll be searching google for information like "how to file charges against your husband for rape and sexual abuse before filing for divorce".

20182019_Throwaway · 2019-03-22T18:59:32+00:00

Is that projection of her own guilty conscience?

Yup

boy_named_su · 2019-03-22T19:03:55+00:00

you can get some help from / r / askMRP

ClubZlut · 2019-03-22T19:06:22+00:00

Shits over, and she knows it. All of that is her getting herself ready to rape you in court and she will if you don't get ahead of it. Get yourself, and then her, tested. Don't tell her you were tested. Start putting money away. She either has a lawyer or is on the search, so you need to do the same. You need to end this on your terms and not hers.

xdrunkagainx · 2019-03-22T19:10:31+00:00

I got redpilled years ago, while being unhappily married. I implemented getting my shit together, and not taking hers anymore. The marriage went on for 2 more years until she snapped. She finally couldn't take not controlling me, or being able to manipulate me at all.

TheRealEyesWideOpen · 2019-03-22T19:16:05+00:00

Trust me, she done with the relationship.

I’ve been married once and dated a lot - I’m a few years older than you. When they start with these shit tests, the sex dries up, and they start gaslighting like you wife is, it’s time to pull the pin. She’s trying to convince herself that it’s all your fault.

No kids - even better. Get a lawyer, split the assets and head for the hill. All the dust will settle by 35 and you can build your wealth for the next 20 and retire at 55.

Hook up with 20 somethings on vacation - the relationship ends when the trip ends. Go enjoy your life.

deepinthesevenotwo · 2019-03-22T19:22:22+00:00

Sounds similar to my situation.. Only were not married. Ive noticed a lot less stress and worry since finding mgtow. Ive also seen her do the same ol crap every other woman has done since... Things just make sense after the pill. She picked up that im not atm material anymore, and that im not falling for the same ol crap....i even tell her u want to leave bye.... Now she needs me..... Spell broken.... Thanks MGTOW men. Good luck bro's.

BasedBlackPilled · 2019-03-22T19:36:20+00:00

Get your shit together man, clear your bank account, prepare. Don‘t get divorceraped. Once you have your shit together, end this freak show. Don‘t fuck her, most probably she has been cheating on you and caught a STD. Get tested and propose like you want to prove your innocence. If her test comes back positive you can fuck her up in court.

2019-03-22T19:37:56+00:00

I never understand why men continue to pay the mortgage when they get thrown out of the house. Stop paying and get her defaulted so she loses the house as well. If she plays dirty you play dirty.

Nov51605 · 2019-03-22T19:48:59+00:00

yup she's projecting for sure - id tell her that and demand she gets tested ! turn the tables on her.
Whatever you are doing , you are doing right to where she is gonna have only two reactions:
1. Double down and be even more of a cunt than she has been OR
2. behave

_-resonance-_ · 2019-03-22T19:53:34+00:00

Props on the succinct assessment for only being red pilled a couple weeks.

I read this once and I think there’s merit to it: that for every year you’ve been blue-pilled in an LTR that you need to spend a full month easing into full red-pill mode. In other words, if you go full red-pill upfront, it will be too much too fast for her and you will almost assuredly lose her as your frame will be incongruent with what has been established over the past decade+.

It’s tempting to jump in head first, and will take discipline that would be hard for even a seasoned red-piller to muster, but if you aim to keep the relationship in tact, you’ll have to actually hold back on your newfound reality check.

I’m assuming you don’t have kids? If not, maybe going all-in is your best bet, but again, don’t expect her to change.

I’d advocate you build your mojo by flirting, getting numbers etc to build confidence and not be dependent on her in any way. The vice-grip of her () is a recipe for neediness, and this can not be the case.

If you aim to keep the marriage, I like the analogy I think it’s an anecdote of Abraham Lincoln’s war strategy: it may seem that with the advantage, going straight at the enemy is your best bet. But they’ll see you coming. Sometimes you have to go around them... it will take longer and you have to go out of your way, but your outcome is assured. Something like that.

TitanonymousRex · 2019-03-22T20:20:45+00:00

Start keeping written records of your converstaions with her, and keep back up copies in multiple locations.

Include dates and times, and as many details as you can.

Provable facts and evidence will likely help you when your court date arrives.

anonymous_troll · 2019-03-22T20:44:00+00:00

Tread lightly instead of jumping off the deep end of what people on the internet tell you to do. Ask your wife to get tested. Bear in mind that doctor-patient confidentiality means that she's not legally obligated to tell you the result. Discuss your concerns with a lawyer and a male psychiatrist who doesn't vote Democrat.

Williamsarapist · 2019-03-22T20:52:14+00:00

Dude, 100% projection. She probably has an STD or been sleeping around

bonethugsgoat · 2019-03-22T20:58:07+00:00

So many red flags, divorce that woman fam.

ghostops3 · 2019-03-22T21:05:26+00:00

I mean if you want to divorce her there is a list of preparations By terrance pop on YouTube. If you want to get out of your marriage without making a mess of yourself Follow it get out of the marriage with minimal social rep damage

Max_Leone · 2019-03-22T21:20:40+00:00

Why don't you just divorce?

oneofchaos · 2019-03-22T21:38:53+00:00

If you were clean you don't have an STD.

If she was clean, she didn't have an STD.

Now...let's assume you've slept together since you've been married. One doesn't magically get an STD from the STD fairy while you sleep. So if you are telling us the truth and didn't cheat, then one of the two of you not including you probably did.

Process_Killer · 2019-03-22T21:41:55+00:00

A sexless 14-year marriage has ZERO chances of improving. Thinking she'll "fix her shit" is nothing but wishful thinking. And the STD excuse is a pretext in the best of cases.

That makes a lot. You've said it yourself, you've been miserable for years. Why exactly would you prolong this?

TheGodsmustbelazy · 2019-03-22T21:45:55+00:00

What a weird thing to say. She has some sorta std. Its called projection.

carlescha · 2019-03-22T21:54:21+00:00

Look for the pdf Fire Your Wife. Good and solid advice. Sounds like she is projecting

jacketguy · 2019-03-22T21:56:31+00:00

dang bro i feel your pain

sidenote: any info u need is likely in her social media or her phone.. just remember that

2019-03-22T21:58:57+00:00

You want to know if she’s cheating? I’ll tell you how. Take her phone and run in the bathroom and lock the door. If she chases after you and tries to break the door down. That hoe is a hoe.

JohnnySkidmarx · 2019-03-22T22:17:46+00:00

If you separate, do NOT move out of the house.

mentalidade_logica · 2019-03-22T22:24:19+00:00

"(awful bold to assume she'd get the house, right??)." Unfortunately, her assumption may not be to far fetched depending where you live. Seek a lawyer.

unpluggedoasis · 2019-03-22T22:41:29+00:00

100% projection. 100000000000000000000% projection. She has cheated, get ready for the divorce and if anything strike first.

DarkNights292 · 2019-03-22T22:44:06+00:00

I will pray for you friend, I hope you win divorce court and get rid of that evil bitch! Also she is most likely cheating on you.

Mauzeraut · 2019-03-22T23:01:54+00:00

Accusing you of cheating, possibly cheating herself already and involved in a sexless marriage where she's already preparing to take your shit? Time to go!

nobsno · 2019-03-22T23:51:06+00:00

DONT LISTEN TO HER, ITS A TRAP. You’re being alpha and she’s low key liking it

buff_minorcan · 2019-03-23T00:47:39+00:00

Your wife of 14 years won't have sex with you out of fear of getting an STD....

Bro wut

ColdStoryBro · 2019-03-23T01:06:29+00:00

I think your life is about to change drastically. You're in too deep now. The pill has unveiled the world.

cleats4u · 2019-03-23T01:29:44+00:00

Send her back home to her mother. That is where most women need to be and eventually wind up. Why leave in the first place.

Toshiba1point0 · 2019-03-23T03:19:10+00:00

She’s feeling you out, testing the waters, projecting her shit onto you....GTFO. Protect family heirlooms and any other valuables that belong to you. Don’t do or say anything that can be used in court. If you have skeletons in the closet, start working on explaining them now and keep an eye on her trying to invent some new reason to leave you. Monitor the computer, get your own accounts, trust nothing she says ever.

TheEarlOfGrey666 · 2019-03-23T04:14:53+00:00

Lawyer up. I practiced family law for 4 years. I hope you dont live in a community property state. If you do, lawyer up, collect evidence of wrongdoing, and then file for an at fault/for cause divorce.

oksidasyon · 2019-03-23T07:39:52+00:00

she gonna cuck you boyo

AvailableGuava · 2019-03-23T10:04:23+00:00

Just thought of something, you said for ten years she's brought up divorce ionce a year. This is what she not telling you. Once a year she's asking herself if she can do better. Let's face it, you're an ex marine and a college graduate, I'm sure she's thinking if I walk and then he starts realizing he can bang women in their early twenties, can I handle that? What's in store for her? Divorced guys with fucked up kids? Fucking alphas with options? My guess is that's what's keeping her around, that and just routine. You can't " love" someone and bring up divorce yearly. I hate to break it to you, she doesn't love you. She loves the idea of you, and the status you give her. If you were a skinny working slob like me, she would've been gone long ago. And I had 3 kids under 14!

Cestus_Saphrax · 2019-03-23T10:40:56+00:00

Lawyer up first - be prepared for the impact

JayCintheUsa · 2019-03-23T12:05:57+00:00

My advice to you:

Start squirreling money away. No, not in a bank, or a deposit box. I actually buried a box in the back yard and filled with with nearly 11k in cash while I was planning my liberation. I did this because once the divorce papers get filed, everything financial gets reported, ie if you have that secret bank account and the wifey gets wind of it and you didn't tell her attorney, the judge is going to be PISSED and you will pay for it, dearly

Start working out, losing weight, increasing your SMV.

Delete her friends from fb, or fb altogether. There's no value in it, really. It truly is just a way for women to validate themselves (ever see posts of some fat troll with makeup on and all her friends are telling her she's beautiful lol - like hell she is)

Cancel your join credit cards. Once she figures out you're about to fly the coop, she will start raking up the bills baby. She's assuming, and rightfully so, that you will be stuck with half the debt, so she's gonna get that hella expensive purse and pumps she's been eyeing.

Oh, and that STD shit? Yeh, she's gaslighting. She probably contracted something with whatever dude she fucked and she's waiting for it to be cleared up via meds. Check your doctor bills of the past few months and see what clinic she went to. Almost guarantee she went somewhere. She may be crafty and went to a clinic and used cash. Check your bank statements and see if her trips to Walmart have been more expensive lately and she used her atm card to get cash back. Shit...how do you think I racked up 11k in the backyard? Yup, 20 here, 100 there cash back and buried in the yard.

Someone said something in this group a while ago that was very observant and I, at 46, never realized it and was simply flabbergasted that I never saw this very valid point: You ever notice that single women get their hair and nails done on Fridays and married women get them done on Sundays? Think about that one for a bit and get back to me when you've figured it out.

Good luck my man. Once it gets to the point you're at, it's over. The STD bullshit is a HUGE ASS RED FLAG. Start pouring over her expenses. Watch for large purchases at places you can get cash back, even purchases at gas stations of 40 bucks or more.

onemoretime89 · 2019-03-23T12:34:55+00:00

Hey man...she cheated and got an std. Sorry. Start your exit plan. Get an audio recorder to cover yourself from false domestic violence accusations. Good luck. Talk to a lawyer.

sphinx2626 · 2019-03-23T13:04:35+00:00

Holy shit yea. Wtf youll give her an std??? Shes losing it man start liquidating and hiding assests NOW!!!! Sell the house before she can steal it... and no not bold at all to assume she will get the house. Women always win property by default.

axonMagnus · 2019-03-23T14:23:38+00:00

you are fucked. you should have divorced her yesterday! how the fuck could you ignore the horror stories of men getting flayed alive ? with all those devorce statistics everywhere ?

CriticalEscapeBike · 2019-03-24T17:53:53+00:00

"Is that projection of her own guilty conscience?"

No. It's an unspoken statement of fact.

Your wife is fucking other people.

She naturally assumes if she is....you must have been well before she even thought of it.

TETHTONE · 2019-03-22T19:55:00+00:00

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oliver_21 · 2019-03-22T21:19:19+00:00

Welcome. I've been married almost 20 years and woke up about 4 years ago. Recently told my wife I'm done with her bullshit.

If you haven't already saw Paul Elam's channel he has great content and great talks. You might have to scroll a few years back for the really practical stuff.

Good luck my friend. You're on the right path!

LINK

klim_milk · 2019-03-23T01:37:50+00:00

Glad to hear you're taking control, man.

When you divorce, do not leave the house, otherwise she claims it's her own private residence. Contact a lawyer and start stashing away money for a rainy day because she's going to rip you a new one.

Cut your hours and cut your pay for a few months before you divorce. Vaginamony is brutal.

Not my business, but I wouldn't tell her, but get yourself tested so you have paperwork. Then go with her to get her tested. Sorry, but you're probably right that she's probably projecting because she's got STDs and hasn't figured out how to tell you the story. It sounds like she's already slept around, based on the numbers of times this has happened to another guy.

You also mention she's infertile. Again, this has come up so often that it could mean she has a past history she didn't tell you. Probably an abortion or two, or some stds earlier in her life that have prevented her from having children.

Title	Interesting conversation with my wife
Author	GuntherVonHairyballs
Upvotes	413
Comments	162
Date	March 22, 2019 1:34 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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