They just don’t get it do they?

manwithmeasuringline · 2018-10-02T06:39:37+00:00

Women: ”Not all women are gold diggers.”

Also Women: ”I think I can speak for *all women when I say these are qualities we look for in a man.”* 🙄

TB409 · 2018-10-02T06:50:46+00:00

Drama free? Bitch you just wrote a fucking paragraph about how your a gold digger wondering where all the good men gone. Get a god damn grip. No men do not want educated women. They want a fine piece of loyal ass that could nurture him and his babies, that's it. I don't give a fuck if you can do quantum mechanics in your head if I'm not attracted to you and you can't cook or clean or suck a cock you are useless to any king in his kingdom.

coinstash · 2018-10-02T06:45:10+00:00

"Women who have it 100% together" ??

Bwahahahahaha. Comedy gold.

Docbear64 · 2018-10-02T06:55:24+00:00

They don't get it .

It's great that you have a good job and pay your own bills, it's great that you are stable and drama free... but the reality is all of those qualities are " nice to haves" most men are simple we want someone pretty , fun, and nice to us more often than not . ... It truly is that simple. That is the list of "required" qualities the majority of women fail to meet.

If you can't find a man I always assume you don't have the Required qualities and no matter how hard a woman claims to have those " nice to haves" I've never in my life seen a woman who actually retain those qualities in fair measure .

So no they don't get it, women are trying so hard to beat men at their own game that they have forgotten what makes women attractive in the first place... pro-tip: it's more than painting your face and pushing up your boobs.

Kar98kSnipe · 2018-10-02T07:01:44+00:00

Well-educated, good job, owns a house, and is financially independent and is still a gold digging whore looking for a man to lean on. Pathetic.

Miranoi · 2018-10-02T09:14:26+00:00

Yeah, pretty sure she's drama free... every woman I've heard say stupid shit like that is full of drama. We don't give a shit if you're successful, we give a shit if you're a thot, thot.

user_miki · 2018-10-02T06:43:58+00:00

Yes they don't .They think the same qualities they seek in men we suppose to seek in women.Those 30 years of feminism brainwashing tried to transform women in men.They still don't get it men and women are complementary not adversary.We seek in other person things that we don't have in order to feel us whole.Man could care less even women has a job or strong,independent,or empowered, or smart.

Men want a women to protect her and provide for her and children,love(sex) and intimacy,nothing else.

Women strong,independent ,smart and empowered need men like fish need bicycle.

We don't need that.It is repulsing.It is antithetic to femininity.

When a man comes home at night, from a shitty job(not career) want to be received at home by a happy wife with warm food on the table

This social experiment will blow up one day,,,but not after destroying 2-3 generations of people.

godlytroll · 2018-10-02T06:46:17+00:00

im not looking for anything in a woman

no really, fuck off

JohnBravo9990 · 2018-10-02T09:52:14+00:00

They gave away what men want to other men. Their youth, beauty, innocence, and loyalty.

They pretend men want another man essentially... they are sick fucking lunatics.

LJHova · 2018-10-02T11:49:15+00:00

"Drama-free woman"

Oxymoron right there

ahab_dies · 2018-10-02T15:10:02+00:00

Men: "I can't find a girlfriend... There must be something wrong with me."

Women: "I can't find a boyfriend... There must be something wrong with men."

Lord_Teapot · 2018-10-02T07:07:41+00:00

a stable, rational, personality. a unicorn.

mongolian_usa · 2018-10-02T06:32:57+00:00

They don't, they won't ever get it.

The-sleep-of-reason · 2018-10-02T09:25:44+00:00

She gets approached by men. She rejects them because they aren't good enough for her. She's priced herself out of the market.

Cestus_Saphrax · 2018-10-02T10:20:12+00:00

"i think i can speak for all women when i say that these are qualities we look for in a man, because we are princesses who deserve to have all those assets after a divorce rape. We get nothing out of a poor man !"

CommanderHeMan · 2018-10-02T09:47:41+00:00

Change the word ‘intimidating’ to ‘insufferable’ and you just might crack the code.

TheOnlyThing-Sufjan · 2018-10-02T09:53:56+00:00

The thing is that men are more honest when it comes to desire and only follow said desire. Desire cannot be bargained for, so if a man does not desire a women her job, money, career, life together shit will not have one single percentage of effect on the desire the man has for the women. Ofcourse man can date those women to have some of her money, or to be taken care off in exchange for sex (what most women do). However most men who have money and their shit together will not find these girls more or less deseriable when it comes to those traits (mabye they are of little influence but not alot). The same reason why beta males bargain for sex with their woman by being nice, providing, and making gestures ect ect. The woman do not really desire them, but will accept the ocasional sex as part of the bargain of getting all the other stuff. So those qualities she describes will lead to men having dates/relationships but not to them being desired (only some men are desired most men are accepted). The same goes for women but for them it is harshers since if you are really underisable as a women (you must really work hard to this tough), then no men will ever want to date you. And since men dont let their desire be bargained for they only fuck the women he desire. Ofcourse if a guy gets drunk, or is horny, or whatever that desire has a wider scope, but in general he only follows that when choosing a partner.

So in summary, those traits, allthough nice, are not going to help you attract any men, since their desire cannot be bought (same goes for women however they will accept certain partners cause they desire stability and protection more then the sexual needs satisfied).

Trail_of_Jeers · 2018-10-02T11:36:41+00:00

Your degree doesn't make a happy home, and I can't fuck your brain.

the2xstandard · 2018-10-02T11:20:15+00:00

It's just not worth it. Why should I bet you half my shit that we will love each other forever.

trseeker · 2018-10-02T12:31:06+00:00

None of those qualities she mentions are indications of a quality woman, wife or mother.

Tsukikoselenia · 2018-10-02T13:33:56+00:00

Not what "independent" means for you.

For a woman, "independent" means "I'm also free to get rid of you at any time I want and there's nothing stopping me so I'll just follow my primal urges". At least when you had an hard time together you used to support each other (ok, that never happened because AWALT was always true but whatever). Being a "strong independent wimin" is codename for "I'm independent, therefore I don't need you, therefore if I have some problem I'll trash you aside and go fuck another beta with more money". That's the only thing "independent" means to them. What a catch for any guy!

Not to say that this is surprising from a gender unable to create real bonds or to even see them as long as they give them responsibilities.

tw-1234a · 2018-10-02T11:24:32+00:00

How much of this financial independence came right after the divorce?

CerebralAbrasion · 2018-10-02T11:33:19+00:00

And allowed several hundred thugs, bums and Chads to use her like a piece of meat.

Starter91 · 2018-10-02T12:23:15+00:00

Eggs are dry honey.

stupidonparade · 2018-10-02T12:23:52+00:00

Young as possible. Nurturing. Not fat. Can cook and clean. Willing to prove she's as loyal as possible. Which is to say not at all.

oirectine00 · 2018-10-02T14:20:58+00:00

I can see one of two things happening here if I date you:

I won't make enough to satisfy you because women don't date down
You'll get bored 4 or 5 years in, initiate divorce, and I'll lose everything

Its lose lose for us.

tdh792 · 2018-10-02T10:56:48+00:00

Women talk a lot but don't realize how stupid they really are.

Someone please just tell her she's fat and ugly.

Papa_Barsuk · 2018-10-02T11:00:47+00:00

It's really great that you have all those things. Maybe if you had more financially realizeable assets that protected men from losing out in divorce then you might be on to something.

Good luck finding all those missing good men though. You'll probably find them all on the garbage dump of men you rejected in your 20s if you look hard enough.

DirtieHarry · 2018-10-02T15:39:16+00:00

I graduated with a chick who is 100% a workaholic. You can tell she's desperate to lock a man down, but constantly states that her Job and her family come first. She is CONSTANTLY posted these complaint rants on social media and can't understand why men hit it and quit it. Every other month its her doting over how she finally found the one. Then he's gone as quickly as he comes.

Cuck-WTF · 2018-10-02T11:22:26+00:00

stable, drama-free

We're talking unicorn right here.

kinr51000 · 2018-10-02T13:20:14+00:00

I hear/read this every day from women. They really can't understand that money means nothing if you're a complete and total bitch. Judging by the way that she judges the worth of a man on the amount of objects that he's been able to acquire, I can tell that she's just that. A bitch.

TheObelisk · 2018-10-02T13:43:42+00:00

I care about who you are and if you're a loving compassionate person; that's what's important to the life of a relationship. Being well-educated, having a good job, owning a home, and being financially independent virtually don't matter at all when considering a girl. Perhaps the financially independent part since no one likes for their partner to weigh them down with their debt. Largely, women look for superficial traits and utility while men look for loving/compatibility traits.

TyphosBoethian · 2018-10-02T14:50:16+00:00

A strong, independent, and empowered man needs a woman like a fish needs a bicycle.

earringthrwy · 2018-10-02T16:33:30+00:00

A woman who labels herself as having it together 100% is exactly the type of woman most men do not want to deal with. She sounds like a narcissist.

hollybegin · 2018-10-02T17:32:50+00:00

...stable, drama-free woman...

Now THAT is the real unicorn.

...intimidating...

There is not a lot to be intimidated about...but hey! Whatever rocks her boat.

What gives?

You're pushy, demanding, unsatisfiable, full of yourself with your "I-got-it-together-now-what" shit. You bought a house? Good for you! Don't count on us to do the maintenance and the yard work. You can do it. You're strong and all that jazz...Enjoy!

Bae_king · 2018-10-02T12:28:28+00:00

Yeah its because thats boring. You're all boring to us men

Gordon-G · 2018-10-02T13:50:56+00:00

Yeah..I’ll pass on her..I can see she is full of herself and would have tons of drama associated with her

livingstranger · 2018-10-02T14:32:19+00:00

I'm mgtow but not monk mode. I (now) have very high standards (almost I mpossibly high in this day and age), and none of them include the things she mentions.

It probably goes for all of us, that we care about who people are, not what they have.

VenetianCares · 2018-10-02T16:00:08+00:00

yes, i'm in my 30's and I don't date women over the age of 30. ewww.

am I shallow. maybe. but with all men are expected to sacrifice in a relationship i at least want someone that is fuck-able.

now, would i go beyond the physical, just pure beauty in finding something more stable and of different value. sure! most men would. but what fucking women who has any savings or resource value is going to share it with their man. not in a million years. she'll be a millionaire and it'll mean she just doesn't expect to suction off your salary each month. but her millions are still going to her getting new shoes and finding ways to impress Chad still.

if women actually brought monetary value they wanted to share, more men would be open to dating older women.

sidel3 · 2018-10-02T13:52:18+00:00

Sorry, a wall hitting thot that has a credit card does not get my dick hard.

Sneakybobo · 2018-10-02T14:51:58+00:00

She gets it in her second-to-last question but doesn't dare to admit it

Hungry73 · 2018-10-02T15:11:49+00:00

i think men would be impressed with a woman that have it 100% together... but they dont exist.

gadabout13 · 2018-10-02T16:18:18+00:00

is a woman important to me? no

Afab67 · 2018-10-02T16:20:10+00:00

I think what we have here is a woman ready to settle down, but doesn’t know the first thing about what is happening with men or MGTOW. She will find out soon enough.

AppreciateYa · 2018-10-02T16:57:50+00:00

Well, I am glad she is at least trying to figure out what guys want, rather than assuming she knows what they want.

That actually gives me hope for humanity-- that a few women actually consider that guys might have a set of relationship wants/needs themselves. And, that women are willing to recognize "Oh, wait a sec, maybe women and men want different things from each other! Maybe guys don't want women who are basically trying to be career men."

fasterfind · 2018-10-02T19:24:29+00:00

They go bonkers listing everything and wondering what it is, what is it that men want?
They never list love, though... do they? Love never makes the list.

Men want a good lover, and someone that will give a shit about a relationship, including putting in the work instead of putting in drama. We also want sex appeal, but you know even an ugly face can be sexy with make up. Small tits? Get a push up bra. Shit ain't rocket science. Yes, that's what men want. Everything we want is pretty much free except for time cost. We are not complicated. Good sex, good love, good companionship. Done. That seals the deal right there.

Superspathi · 2018-10-02T20:01:23+00:00

You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis.

ketogrammer · 2018-10-02T13:51:22+00:00

"Nice and pretty enough"

MonkModeEngage · 2018-10-02T14:37:43+00:00

Perhaps...... we are no longer looking at all.......

Valarian514 · 2018-10-02T15:24:21+00:00

"drama-free woman"

Yes, and I'm a unicorn, look at the size of my... horn...

TheLastMgtow · 2018-10-02T15:33:14+00:00

lmao men dont care about none of that shit. Its actually a turn off. And these career women dont have their shit together, they have a uge baggage and stress and are impossible to be around.

Borgmeister · 2018-10-02T16:28:07+00:00

We're looking for peace and quiet.

adobogopnik · 2018-10-02T18:49:47+00:00

This is what we look for, so obviously everyone else looks for it too!

🤦‍♂️ It's amazing how unempathetic the "empathetic" gender truly is.

Rydia4500 · 2018-10-02T19:07:47+00:00

Anyone have a link to the study about wealth and attractiveness? It compared Men & Women as well as US vs EU vs China. Basic premise was they gave people a number of pictures of the opposite sex with some info including a monetary amount and then compared the difference money had on the ratings.

The results(which wouldn't surprise anyone here) was that wealth was far more important to women than men. Chinese women had it as the highest factor among all regions around a 5(Chinese men around 2.5). Interesting was that wealth rated lower for US women than Chinese or EU women but the relative difference between American Men and Women was the greatest. US men had wealth as the lowest influence of any sex/region at around .2 and US women were at 1.6-1.8

I don't believe the study did any testing on the influence of debt on attractiveness. My intuition says that the results would be closer(and of course negative).

Quo210 · 2018-10-02T19:08:28+00:00

isn't it paradoxical feminism turns into the enemy of the women?

The converted become undesirable.

The traditionals are shamed and ridiculed.

ManIsWalking · 2018-10-02T20:05:42+00:00

Be young, pretty, not fat, and even just a little nice. Also, don't jump on literally every cock you can.

It's that fucking simple.

TheHappyPie · 2018-10-02T20:20:23+00:00

I care about those things for myself, not for a woman.

Also let's be clear... women don't care about those things at all.

Would they prefer you to be saving money for retirement and a rainy day fund or spending that money on cool shit and a car you can barely afford?

Plenty of men fit these exact descriptions and there's no hordes of women flocking to their doorstep.

Also well-educated is code for blue-pilled. I went to college but I have a lot of friends that are tradesmen and I wouldn't put down their intelligence just because they don't have a degree.

There are some unicorns out there but they don't make posts like this.

hellrete · 2018-10-02T21:03:55+00:00

She hit the wall head on. What a nice way to put it.

Zombocom1911 · 2018-10-02T21:12:23+00:00

yeah sure, but its no real guarantee she still won't be looking to STEAL HALF YOUR SHIT

2018-10-02T21:37:01+00:00

Hasn't it been known since the beginning of time that what men look for in women is #1 an attractive body and #2 a great personality (you know one that is not sexist and is open minded enough to try anything in bed)? Guaranteed she has neither #1 or #2.

KaitouNala · 2018-10-02T21:41:32+00:00

It's so fucking hillarious.

Men treat women like queens because they deserve to be treated like kings.

Women treat men like shit, because they know that's the treatment they deserve.

Women get degrees, careers, houses ect. Because that's what they want from a man.

Too bad all men want from you is your loyalty and the best years of your life not spent whoring around. (That is we want your best years and loyalty throughout)

Swan_in_a_Cage · 2018-10-02T21:45:41+00:00

I'd actually prefer a completely dependent woman. The independent ones are dangerous.

GamingYourMom · 2018-10-03T02:34:30+00:00

Someone tell her she hit the wall.

NameOfAction · 2018-10-03T05:24:30+00:00

Link to original please

ilikerelish · 2018-10-04T10:39:17+00:00

She almost made the quantum leap in thought.... "do men not care about a woman's status?" And then she fucked it up and went back int the bucket with the rest of the crabs by using one of the sad cliches..... "do they feel less needed."

escalover · 2018-10-02T16:24:20+00:00

Do you have a nice ass?

Fyodor007 · 2018-10-02T21:11:46+00:00

A real answer from me might be something like, "add as much to my life as I add to yours." Things like sex and companionship are things we both get. So a woman with healthy investments, property, good self worth, a career etc are promising to someone wanting a relationship. Imagine a teammate who doubled your home affordability, doubled your vacations, or better yet, made it necessary to only need to work half as much. The theory of that could be somewhat appealing, if it were not a fantasy.

Title	They just don’t get it do they?
Author	manwithmeasuringline
Upvotes	271
Comments	126
Date	October 2, 2018 6:27 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/9kobk2/they_just_dont_get_it_do_they/
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