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College student whose false rape claim got two football players removed from school now faces two years in prison

unbelievablepeople

June 16, 2017
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Title College student whose false rape claim got two football players removed from school now faces two years in prison
Author

unbelievablepeople

Upvotes 1070
Comments 97
Date June 16, 2017 10:23 AM UTC
(9 years ago)
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[–]handklap 160 points161 points162 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

According to the arrest affidavit, when police Detective Walberto Cotto Jr. pressed Yovino about inconsistencies in her original statement, she admitted she had made up the allegations against the two young men in the hope of gaining sympathy from a prospective boyfriend.

This is where the "yes, but only 2-10% of accusations are false" misinformation comes from. That number only includes the tiny, tiny % where the police can prove it was false, in this case her confession was the proof. If this lady just kept her mouth shut and said, "My PTSD from the incident has affected by recollection of events and I have no more to say on the matter". She wouldn't have been charged with anything and this case would have instead been categorized as "unfounded" vs. "false".

[–]Apexbreed 39 points40 points41 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's still going to be her defense in court

[–]DaeusPater 26 points27 points28 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yes, only 5% of rape reports are proven and result in conviction, while around 8% of reports are proven false. The rest 87% cases are not clear and possibly could all be false reports.

[–]WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you have source for these statistics? I would dearly love to use this in an ongoing argument I'm having.

[–]MelkorHimself 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you have source for these statistics? I would dearly love to use this in an ongoing argument I'm having.

This guy did a two-part dissection of why rape statistics are misleading.

http://www.datagoneodd.com/blog/2015/01/25/how-to-lie-and-mislead-with-rape-statistics-part-1/

http://www.datagoneodd.com/blog/2015/01/27/how-to-lie-and-mislead-with-rape-statistics-part-2/

[–]DaeusPater 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

So, these stats are taken from different studies, which you can look up (just google).

That 8% (demonstrably) false reports is a well known study, even the people most skeptical about the epidemic of false accusations of sexual assault don't dismiss it, though they might prefer results of other studies with similar numbers(like 2%, 5%, etc).

On the other hand, try looking up that 5% stat here. Or search the internet for rape conviction rates. Actually, listen to feminists talking about rape, then you will likely hear this: 'out of every 1000 rapists, 996 will walk free'. Some of the biggest feminist organizations, most feminist departments at universities and many activists keep parroting this. You should translate that to real world language as "out of every 1000 rape reports, only 4 result in conviction"; that is 0.4% by their own admission a total order of magnitude lower than what I stated. I actually think the 5% stat is being very liberal and the reality is a much lower number.

[–]BaileysBaileys 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True, or all true reports.

[–]EricAllonde 86 points87 points88 points 9 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

If she actually gets two years I'll be well pleased with the outcome, but I think it's more likely she'll spend no more than 30 days in jail.

[–]KR_Blade 40 points41 points42 points 9 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

i would sue as well, all her assets, false rape claims need to be taken seriously, if anyone does this, they should be fucked hard in court, cause all these false rape accusation bitches do is harm true rape victims, honestly, i think some of these organizations that help rape survivors should band together and hurt these idiots that think making false rape accusations is ok.

[–]Rasalom72 73 points74 points75 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

cause all these false rape accusation bitches do is harm true rape victims

No, they actually harm the guys being accused as well.

[–]majortom22 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know. The gynocentrism in placing future potential victims first in the hierarchy is disgusting. The first person(s) is/are the people (read:men) you actually maliciously hurt. And then after that are the (legitimate) 2nd tier victims if you will, such as those who find it harder to come forward or the general loss of faith in Justice with a capital J

[–]MelkorHimself 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

i would sue as well, all her assets,

What assets? She is 19 years old. The falsely accused men could take her for everything she is worth and only be able to pay for a month's worth of meals at McDonald's if they're lucky.

[–]the-final-word 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually, the award could be in the millions for lost income if either of them had a shot at the NFL. She would have her wages garnished for life and sent to the victims.

[+]MotherFuckin-Oedipus points 9 years ago* [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

...not to mention be broke from attorneys' fees.

There's nothing to be gained from suing her.

[–]mwobuddy 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Its not about personal gains, its about sending a message.

[–]JoeBender1 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Precisely.

Send a message that the men and the legal system have had enough of women using the courts as a weapon to attack men for no reason whatsoever.

[–]mwobuddy 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's the thing I don't get; a lot of people see it as noble to sacrifice your life on a battlefield, but this is sacrificing only parts of your life (attorney fees, etc), to achieve an ideological result.. Much less painful and can actually change the world, but its not seen as noble.

[–]MotherFuckin-Oedipus 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Most people can barely live paycheck-to-paycheck. And filing a lawsuit for ideological reasons generally does not work out well. Think about a couple going through a divorce and fighting over a $5 grocery bill charge - some people will spend thousands of dollars arguing over that and others will just move on with their life.

Regardless of how strongly you feel about something, there is always a point at which the cost is too great, especially given the risk / potential reward.

And it's not just financial costs, either. Time, effort, and stress are big factors. Most people who go through what the falsely accused men did would be exhausted and ready to just restart their life. If they want to sue, great, but so many people here advocate lawsuits and have never had to deal with a bad one.

[–]mwobuddy -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

stress are big factors

Military special forces break you down to rebuild you emotionally and mentally to handle stress in a different way, rather thna being constantly stressed, you're more like 'in the zone' or just not worried about it.

Most people could use CBT feedback to eliminate stress entirely from their daily living, even while doing hard tasks or long, strenuous tasks.

I mean, assuming you can go work out at a gym, do you feel stress? But its long and strenuous work. I have a few younger friends who play video games and tell me about how stressed out they get playing video games. They feel the same symptoms as people who feel stress over high risk entrepreneurial ventures.

That means its not the object, its the mind.

[–]Coach_DDS 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I think this is exceptionally important. These young men suffered terribly because of this... and no doubt caused them significant financial harm. I had someone falsely accuse me of rape and it damn near bankrupted me and cost me about 1.5M in the long run.

People, and today women especially, need to be accountable for their behavior. This woman should be paying these men a paycheck every month for the rest of her life.

[–]KR_Blade 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

i agree with you there, its often because of alot of women claiming rape just out of vindictive spite that the true rape victims are not believed and ignored by the justice system, its the cry wolf effect, the only way to put a stop to it, is to make sure that false rape accusers are punished hard, yes there is the risk that some innocent women may get thrown into this, but also, at this point, there are alot of real rape victims that suffer in silence because of the false rape accusers doing it like crazy that some women that are really raped are afraid to speak up cause they will think that people will call them liars due to the few that did truly lie in some sick form of revenge.

there has to be a law put in place to stop the false rape accusations, to discourge people to stop doing it.

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[–]Halafax 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

cause all these false rape accusation bitches do is harm true rape victims

I understand why people say this, but I don't think they should. You're invalidating the actual victims here.

[–]PJackson6 22 points23 points24 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Completely agree. The victims here are the football players who have had their lives ruined, but people immediately shift the focus to some hypothetical rape victim who won't be believed. It is yet another example of how gynocentric our culture is.

[–]Valac_ -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not really it's a case of the boy who cried wolf if everyone is crying wolf or in this case rape you're going to get to the point where it's like yeah sure you were bitch.

[–]Halafax 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can't think of a post where this subject has come up and someone didn't immediately move the focus away from the men accused.

[+]Valac_ -6 points-5 points-4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not following your statement here.

Why wouldn't they we live in a victim society that's all people care about anymore is the person claiming to be a victim and crucifying and one accused of being a victimizer

[–]dukunt 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Judges are getting sick of this shit...they may finally send a strong message. Im hoping...but im not gonna hold my breath!

[–]CatManDontDo 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only on the weekends like that woman in the UK with the kid.

[–]MelkorHimself 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but I think it's more likely she'll spend no more than 30 days in jail.

You never know. The article said the two years of prison was part of a plea bargain followed by three years of probation, so that tells me she would've been facing a longer term if she went to trial and didn't accept a deal.

Moments later the 19-year-old Yovino stood before Superior Court Judge Earl Richards as Senior Assistant State’s Attorney Craig Nowak told the judge he was offering Yovino a plea bargain of two years in prison, followed by three years’ probation.

[–]PeteyMax 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If she gets any punishment at all I would be satisfied.

[–]PJackson6 39 points40 points41 points 9 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

I like how she's 'shocked' that she might actually face consequences. How about the two football players are awarded huge damages and she is forced to work to pay those damages?

[–]cuquet90 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Not to mention, that's gonna be in every background check ever done on them. Good luck explaining that every time you try and get a good job

[–]Tepidatious 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

It won't be on their record if they weren't charged, so not really. The real damage is getting kicked out of school.

[–]Macismyname 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure their name's are forever tainted in google.

[–]emberfly 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They weren't kicked out of school. They withdrew from school before the disciplinary hearing came up because they were afraid that they might be kicked out.

[–]andejoh 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So they were just rail roaded out. It still wasn't voluntary and with the deck stacked against them, it was even less voluntary.

[–]emberfly -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It was voluntary, and with her being found guilty of lying about the accusation, it is unlikely the school would kick out two proven innocent students, especially athletes.

[–]andejoh -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It wasn't voluntary since they left prior to her being found guilty and they were kicked off the team. They could probably go back, but why should they go they go back to a pl;ace that will assume they are guilty and it seems will rule that way regardless.

[–]cuquet90 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The court sessions will still be there. On record. That kind of shit pops up in background checks

[–]Tepidatious -5 points-4 points-3 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

That's just not true at all, what the fuck? Do you not know how background checks work?

Stop spreading misinformation, dude.

[–]cuquet90 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

If you were arrested and fingerprinted, it will show up on your background check. You can apply to the court to have the arrest record expunged. It is NOT done automatically when you case is dismissed.

You're wrong

[+]Tepidatious -7 points-6 points-5 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Lmao, I've seen tons of background checks done working with my boss at a place that is stricter than any job I've ever had, you can't even have a speeding ticket on your record in the last 6 months.

This isn't a thing. Have you ever done a background check?

[–]cuquet90 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. Pretty often. I have a federal job. Everything comes up. Every ticket. Every arrest guilty or not. Past addresses. Everything.

[–]Tepidatious -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I have a state job, if no charges are pressed it is not relevant and you can absolutely still get the job.

He won't need to explain shit 99% of the time, because no charges were pressed.

[–]cuquet90 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I didn't say they couldn't get the job. I said it can still haunt them. You're not reading what I'm saying

[–]Tepidatious0 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Oh, well I misunderstood then. I assumed a bit. I do think you're blowing it a little out of proportion, the arrest won't cause him much drama at all since it led to no charges, but yeah for certain high government jobs he would have to explain it.

It would not disqualify him from any jobs, though.

[–]cuquet901 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Never said it would. Not even once. Never said it would do anything you just stated

[–]AloysiusC 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The entitlement is impressive. What? You mean I'm not allowed to destroy a man's life to impress another man? Typical patriarchal misogyny!

[–]Factushima 29 points30 points31 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't forget it: a girl willing to have sex with two random guys in a bathroom at a party is a dangerous and unstable person.

[–]Mr_Walter_Sobchak 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

well... a girl or a guy, but either way; it can be very stable depending on how sturdy your footing is.

[–]Factushima 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Always wear good shoes.

[–]cuquet90 23 points24 points25 points 9 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Only two years. She ruined two peoples lives and possibly their futures and only gets two years. Amazing

[–]mwobuddy 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

lives and possibly their futures

That's one and the same thing, right?

[–]cuquet90 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Their current lives yeah. Could shape up though. So yes and no I guess

[+]Arctorkovich -12 points-11 points-10 points 9 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

She confessed though and that has to count for something. Otherwise no-one pressing false rape charges will ever confess again even if they regret their decision.

[–]Tepidatious 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

The officer pointed out inconsistencies in her story, she then admitted she lied. It wasn't a confession.

[+]Arctorkovich -7 points-6 points-5 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

That's called a confession. Confessions can require interrogation before they happen.

[–]Tepidatious 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Confessions are voluntary. This was prompted by questioning the veracity of her story. If you can't see a difference there then I don't know what to tell you. I'm not gonna praise a person for admitting they're wrong after being called out.

[–]EricAllonde 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It was a coerced confession rather than a voluntary confession.

A voluntary confession is worthy of a substantial sentence reduction, IMHO. But a coerced confession is probably still worthy of a smaller sentence reduction. At least she saved them the trouble of proving her guilt in court, and that's still something.

[–]AloysiusC 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Regardless of what you want to call it, there's a huge difference between being caught lying and deciding on your own to do the right thing and come clean.

[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

OK, but the crime is worthy of a substantial sentence upgrade plus you need to factor in the damage caused to the victims.

[–]EricAllonde 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. I'm only talking relative reductions for confessing here.

The far bigger problem is that sentences for false accusations are much too low across the board, as you say.

[–]Arctorkovich -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. You don't know what the word confession means? Here's a random article dealing with confessions:

https://www.wired.com/2016/05/false-confessions/

A relevant quote:

Others confess to appease an aggressive inves­tigator, desperate to put an end to a grueling interrogation

This is how the word confession is used in the English language. No-one gives a shit about your personal interpretation. This is how the entire English speaking world agreed to using it.

[–]Tepidatious 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Lmao you're being willfully ignorant. Her being called out on her bullshit is not equivalent to a willing confession, no matter how many definitions you cite it's still nuanced.

Not arguing with someone who doesn't have basic logic skills.

[–]Arctorkovich -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not arguing with someone who doesn't have basic logic skills.

That's rich coming from someone willing to abrasively debate linguistics in a language they have limited command over.

You were fighting straw men and you didn't even realize you were because your vocabulary isn't adequate. Go invest in a dictionary, learn to use it, and we can try this again some day.

[–]miroku000 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think maybe the issue is not whether or not she confessed. Rather it is whether or not she voluntarily came forward and admitted she lied in a moment of panic, or whether instead she kept the story up as long as she could and then admitted the truth only because she has no other choice. Perhaps a bank robber who says he is sorry when he is caught red handed should be treated differently than one who comes and turns himself in purely to clear his concious...

[–]MotherFuckin-Oedipus 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A proven false rape claim needs to carry at least the minimum sentence for actual rape. Probably more. The law supports making an example out of people when they've committed hard-to-prove crimes (e.g. hiding assets in a divorce).

A confession should give her the minimum sentence. Someone who doesn't confess should get the maximum.

[–]cuquet90 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree, yes, good on her for growing a conscience. BUT, think of all the bullshit she put those two through. Lawyer fees. Missing classes, which is money down the drain. Kicked off the team. What if one of them had potential to be drafted to the NFL? Slim chance, but still possible. The weight it put on their families and friends. She should get more time.

[–]Arctorkovich -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree that it's a heinous thing to do but justice isn't just about revenge. If it was we'd just put everyone in front of a firing squad.

If she actually goes to prison for 2 years that's not a walk in the park. If she gets 2 years in prison for lying to the cops then Bill Clinton should get 12 years in prison for lying under oath.

[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She confessed though and that has to count for something.

True, but false rape claims are already punished at a rate far less than it should. I'm also not convinced that ebven if they doubled the punishment she gets that it wouldn't be deep;y discounted. (ie people who file false rape claims should face 5 - 25 years in prison with the person recanting getting 6 months plus however much the falsely accused spent in custody plus the number of days it took them to reccant or something of the sort.)

[–]soparamens 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Dear male college students: ask your buddies to record your previous foreplay before any sexual encounter with this kind of women.

[–]thesquataholic 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then you are charged with some kind of porn distribution crime.

[–]soparamens 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are not distributing any porn here, just saving some video proof of consensual foreplay.

[–]thwml 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“I think the offer is a good one considering the serious allegations in the case,”

A little too good, in my opinion. Also.....what about the football players? Any chances of their lives getting back on track?

[–]Tgunner192 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only two years? Pussypass

[–]Toolongdidntreproduc 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's ok with getting tag teamed in a bathroom but not ok with a guy she wants to date knowing about it. I guess claiming rape was her only option /s

[–]downvotemasterbater 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

False rape allegations should be treated more seriously. Not only is she ruining the men's lives she is lying about, she is making it harder for real victims of rape to come forward as the narrative is more about proving the rape victim's case with solid evidence because the court has to be more careful about false allegations. But all in all that's a good thing really, for everyone. But I think she should get 10 years, not 2. That's a weak sentence for a heinous crime.

[–]Humes-Bread 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If someone is found beyond a reasonable doubt to have lied about being raped, I think two years may be light. Their victims' lives can be impacted in innumerable ways. Registered sex offender, have to move, kicked out of school, harm to reputation, affects future dating life, etc etc etc.

[–]emberfly 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“She admitted that she made up the allegation of sexual assault against (the football players) because it was the first thing that came to mind and she didn’t want to lose (another male student) as a friend and potential boyfriend,” the affidavit states.

Extremely lucky that she admitted it. Had she not, they would not have had enough evidence to convict, and worse: the two men might be in prison instead of her.

[–]ChieHasGreatLegs 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

False rape accusations should carry the same punishment as rape itself. Two years for ruining two people's lives is an absolute joke and not an effective deterrent at all.

[–]Tipping-topsy 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Finally!!!! We need to do the exact same to all females caught lying about sexual or physical assault, even if the male has not served unjust jail time. We need to teach females to be very afraid if the consequences she will face if she lies about a male.

It's time to just stop believing the victim without phisical proof.

[–]LegendaryBidoof 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She should be in prison longer. Possibly ruined two people's lives and 2 years is not enough.

[–]AntiAbleism 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Another lying woman ruins two men's lives. Typical.

[–]provocateur__ 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish women would stop using rape as a morning after pill for regretting being a whore.

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Better late than never.

[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's great that the plea bargain is 2 tears. It shows the prosecutors are taking the case seriously and maybe the judge might give her 3. Still if I'm her lawyer, given the track record of what false accusers get, I'd tell her she'd probably get less even after a conviction.

[–]UDT22 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, this is great news if she actually does prison time. And I doubt she will.

[–]Jamesfm007 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She deserves what both of those dudes would've gotten, combined, had they been convicted. And then some.

[–]sls0059 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If she actually does go to jail, which I doubt, it should start at an unannounced time of the ex-football players choosing. On day everything is going her way and bam, time to go to jail.

[–]spacedogg 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cunt

[–]Retspihi -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice

[–]tragedyfish -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually hope they're lenient on her. If she had kept her mouth shut and stuck to her BS rape story, they may never have been able to convict her. I'm not sure if this is true in this case. But, given the lack of detail in the article, it's a conclusion that people may jump too. If someone in a similar situation as Yovino came to that conclusion, they would likely view her admission of guilt as a mistake.

In my opinion, admission of guilt should be encouraged whenever possible. Not so much for her sake. For her sake, I hope they throw the book at her 'cause that's what she deserves. But for the sake of the viewing public, I hope for leniency in an effort to encourage honesty.

[+]albertienstien -9 points-8 points-7 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

When people come forward and admit they lied I think they should be punished but lightly to encourage others to come forward in the future. When people lie then realize they'll be found out because evidence has come forward and change their tone those people should face the same charges the potential rapist would have faced. Including the sexual preditor thing after they're released

[–]MotherFuckin-Oedipus 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The other school of thought is to punish them severely to act as a deterrent. U.S. laws tend to gravitate to this.

[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When people come forward and admit they lied I think they should be punished but lightly to encourage others to come forward in the future.

Sure after the punishment for not coming forward is increased several times over. I'm still not sure that the discount would then become less than what she could expect to receive now.

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