Marvel, explaining their collapsing sales: "People don't want anymore strong female characters"

albert1357 · 2017-04-05T10:23:13+00:00

I have no issue with strong female characters. I do have a problem with badly-written ideological pandering.

2017-04-05T09:54:30+00:00

We should call this the Ghostbusters excuse.

The product failed because ~~it was poorly written, polarising, and at times seemed to go out of its way to alienate at least 50% of the target audience~~ the readers and viewers are unworthy of it.

ThePigmanAgain · 2017-04-05T10:50:26+00:00

"...we had a lot of fresh, new, exciting ideas..."

LOL! See, this is why Marvel is fucked. They think making Thor a woman and Ms Marvel a Muslim Pakistani is being "fresh, new and exciting!" As for the Marvel guy, sounds to me like he's bashing us deplorables for not buying his warmed over shit. Fact is, the market doesn't object to diversity, it objects to characters having their sex or race changed just to fit in with the wishes of the deranged PC thugs running Marvel. You want to give Luke Cage and Storm a big push? Go for it, nobody is stopping you.

LucifersHammerr · 2017-04-05T14:50:24+00:00

Find me a man who doesn't love Alien, Ridley Scott's sci-fi film featuring a very "strong and independent" female lead in Sigorney Weaver. That's one example, there are thousands more.

People don't like it when SJW's artificially insert hamfisted feminist politics into their art. That is all.

Rasalom72 · 2017-04-05T12:47:11+00:00

As a comic collector for decades I can say that all the times they toss out shit new "progressive" characters, I just dump the title. When the circle around back to the character that made the title work, I pick it back up. It's especially egregious when the new version of that character is a woman/ minority...

Green Lantern was always Hal Jordan. When DC decided to make others GL, it just didn't work, and they kept coming back to Hal.

Ironman is always Tony Stark. Rhody picked it up for a while, but right at the start the armor was built for him around his character, so War Machine (and it still wasn't as good as Ironman)..Now with the new Ironheart, I don't even read the title. If this Riri is so fucking smart, why didn't she build her own super armor from scratch instead of ripping off tech from Stark? (I don't know if they explained it or not, just saying why toss her in an Ironman book instead of giving her her own title.

trygold · 2017-04-05T09:51:30+00:00

According to Netflix I like movies with strong female characters.

xXxIllidanxXx · 2017-04-05T12:55:01+00:00

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111300962/5460383-tumblr_noclahml0b1qm2016o1_500.jpg

Yeah the problem is people hate diversity the writing for these characters is excellent. There's definitely no insulting pandering going on here.

fsphoenix · 2017-04-05T12:50:47+00:00

Does that mean they'll stop randomly turning iconic characters female and then crowing about diversity?

fengpi · 2017-04-05T12:03:55+00:00

The whole planet wasn't good enough for these sublime comics. Aren't you ashamed of yourself, whole planet?

Electroverted · 2017-04-05T17:06:15+00:00

People don't want anymore strong female characters

That's not true at all, and there were plenty of them when I was collecting X-Men in the 90s. The difference between then and now is, back then, Psylocke didn't make me feel bad about admiring her ass and Jubilee wasn't majoring in Women's Studies.

Maybe work on subtlety next time, Marvel.

MattClark0995 · 2017-04-05T21:33:55+00:00

Maybe Marvel's sales are declining because they are pandering to feminists and constantly bashing men (they even use the word "mansplaining" a few times).

If you're a young man and want to read shit like this then I feel sorry for you.

roharareddit · 2017-04-05T13:16:52+00:00

The reason for this is simple: GIRLS DO NOT BUY COMIC BOOKS!

Sure, there are a few geeky girls who read comics and that's great. But boys have been and always will be the ones who read fictional stories about strong heroes and nasty villains who fight desperate battles with each other with the fate of the world in the balance. Boys do not identify with female characters. They just don't. And its not because they hate girls its because they are.........well............BOYS.

Why the producers of media, video games and comics listen to these stupid feminists and SJWs despite their senses and loose untold millions of dollars is beyond me.

thrway_1000 · 2017-04-05T12:39:05+00:00

https://archive.is/K2enF

rg57 · 2017-04-05T22:29:56+00:00

This is ridiculous. Comic book fans DO want more strong female characters. But they don't want the feminist SJW political crap that usually surrounds such characters in the real world.

Story matters. Leave the politics for the politicians.

McFeely_Smackup · 2017-04-06T00:40:50+00:00

People don't want to be insulted and pandered to by SJW political correctness, and outright misandry.

If they can't figure that out, then they can expect the future to be increasingly bleak.

Thomjones · 2017-04-06T02:08:54+00:00

No the problem is you replace established icons with shitty diverse versions while having the icon exit the scene the worst way possible. Who the fuck would give the new iron man or whatever a chance after you just fucked him in the ass to get some lady in?? They don't bother making new characters. And when a kid watching the marvel movies wants to read about those specific characters, they can't. I mean anybody would tell you that's horrible cross promotion. Man I love cap america, let me get his comic book.... What, where is it??

2017-04-06T04:26:03+00:00

so the nerds have spoken with their money and said we will not pay for this shit. but it is mens faults. but but the nerd girls. LMMFAO nerds fell for this Trojan horse hook line and nothing but blueballs.

2017-04-06T19:42:03+00:00

I love strong female characters. I don't mind changing character gender or race, as long as you do it well ( I'd be down for a female doctor or a Donald glover spider man because I have faith that they would use the opportunity to add new flavor to the characters)

But if you're just gonna give us some poorly written pandering gimmick like they did with female Thor or the Ghostbusters reboot, then you can fuck right off.

noturtles · 2017-04-05T14:58:28+00:00

I don't see what this has to do with men's rights.

Adanu0 · 2017-04-05T09:38:18+00:00

What does this have to do with men's rights?

Title	Marvel, explaining their collapsing sales: "People don't want anymore strong female characters"
Author	lifegasm
Upvotes	100
Comments	94
Date	April 5, 2017 9:07 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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