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Reddit promotes hate

August 26, 2022
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For those who don't know, the sub FemaleDatingStrategy (FDS) is one of the many male-hate subs on Reddit.

They dehumanize men, treat men like money machines and consistently talk hatefully about men but Reddit and subs like /r/AgainstHateSubreddits only care about the transphobia on the sub, not the rampant misandry.

So imagine my surprise when I search for "dating" (an innocent enough search) and the third result is FDS.

This means that when impressionable children, boys and girls of all the ages Reddit allows, type in "dating", a HATE SUB is the third result.

Dating advice? - Same result.

Imagine if google led all men searching for dating advice to misogynistic and hate subs.

It's 10th in "relationships" because you don't want to form a cisthet relationship without considering how Men Are Evil, do you?

/r/TwoXChromosomes is third in this search, and they are too often just a less explicit version of FDS.

Reddit doesn't care about men and harbours subs that promote hate against men.

Therefore, Reddit is a hate site.

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Title Reddit promotes hate
Author peanutbutterjams
Upvotes 336
Comments 73
Date August 26, 2022 11:10 AM UTC (5 months ago)
Subreddit /r/MensRights
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/reddit-promotes-hate.1129272
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Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/wy6d1e/reddit_promotes_hate/
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[–]dw87190 142 points143 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

As long as FDS, TwoX, WvP, FourthWave, AskFeminists, or anything sub with "feminist" exist on here, 1000% agree that Reddit is a hate site

[–]peanutbutterjams[S] 68 points69 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Trollx, fragilemaleredditors, niceguys, blatanmisogyny and the list goes on.

Reddit not only promotes hate, it survives on it.

[–]Leading_Direction_84 36 points37 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Niceguys=nicegirls. Keep em both or ban em both.

[–]peanutbutterjams[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice girls is half the size of niceguys but tbh I didn't even expect it to be that high. I've subbed so I can round out my perspective, thanks.

[–]Arguesovereverythin 24 points25 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I've been fed up with Reddit's bullshit for a long time, but I haven't been able to find a good alternative.

[–]peanutbutterjams[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've found discord to be useful.

However, I honestly think we should have an at-arms-length public option where moderators are professionals who only ban for breaking sub or site rules.

It would encourage discussion and force the fundamentalists to face their worst fear: having to rationally justify their ideology.

[–]throwaway3569387340 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We veterans have gone through this before. A site is an open forum for honest discussion, it get's co-oped by a massive influx from the hard left, the remaining user base retreats to the next new platform. I saw this going from Slashdot to Fark to Digg to Reddit.

At the moment there is no alternative, but when there finally is this place will implode.

[–]traveller1976 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep each sub is an echo chamber of self reinforcing so called hate speech. Any contrary or dissenting views are immediately silenced.

[–]solar-garlic1776 36 points37 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

So controversial take,

Yes, I agree about the double standards/hypocrisy/misandry that is allowed from these subs. That said, I've never agreed with censorship, again I am acknowledging the double standard when it comes to banning and censoring. I say, let them keep posting their shit, hell even direct young men to their subs. Why? Easy, more young men need to learn/know how women are trying to play them, learn their tactics and be able to see the toxic traits and avoid them at all costs. If your enemy is giving you their playbook why not study it and use it against them.

These "women" view a man's wallet the same way men views pussy. So why not use that against them? Play them, string them along, totally destroy them. It's time men stop playing nice and start playing by their rules. And no I'm not advocating for violence or anything of the sort just learn their tactics and use it against them.

[–]Raining_Hope 24 points25 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

If you ever want a happy relationship with women, then don't treat them like they are the enemy. A focus on groups like to study their tactics this will only polorize our views against women. Not a healthy focus if you ask me.

[–]peanutbutterjams[S] 15 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If you ever want a happy relationship with women, then don't treat them like they are the enemy.

Nothing to add. It just bears repeating.

I'd give the same advice to FDS.

[–]Raining_Hope 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'd give the same advice to FDS.

Wish I could give the advise to women as a whole. So they don't get involved in those groups, and the group dies naturally from no one joining them

[–]gafgone5 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Problem is advice doesn't go very far when it's rejected. I'm just waiting for everyone's hindsight to become 20/20 on this subject.

[–]hottake_toothache 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't "treat them like they are the enemy," but be VERY slow to trust.

[–]traveller1976 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Invalid especially given many women openly call for the genocide of men. We are already mutual enemies.

[–]EdwardM1230 -4 points-3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Was surprised to see a comment like this here.

Although the lack of upvotes is less surprising.

[–]hottake_toothache 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's almost like there are men who have had bad experiences with women, and have learned from it. Hard to imagine, I know. /s

[–]Clemicus 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Was surprised to see a comment like this here.

It's an oversimplification. People are shaped by bad experiences. You'll find some carry those experiences on and their beliefs and behaviours over time can worsen towards that sex

This line comes to mind (from chapter 3 of Self-Made Man):

Their refusal to see men as individuals, and more importantly to see their initial encounters with them as tabulae rasae, doomed them from the start

Note: Can be applied to either

It isn't surprising going by your post that was deleted as spam

[–]EdwardM1230 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Does the Self-made Man offer a path to tabula rasa?

[–]Sandwhale123 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Then dont generalize women, just understand and spot nasty tactics done by toxic women

[–]traveller1976 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The enemy has only one play book, use and destroy men. The only defense is mgtow, and assured consent pump and dump. Nevertheless it's still remotely possible to find a traditional, anti feminist woman.

[–]peanutbutterjams[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If your enemy is giving you their playbook why not study it and use it against them.

just learn their tactics and use it against them.

But you don't know who "them" is so it seems like you're advocating the use of such tactics against women who don't even know what FDS is or necessarily promote that sub's views.

totally destroy them

I'm not advocating for violence

Uhuh, uhuh.

[–]OK_G4D4E-P01NT42 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Im this case its clear he means non traditional feminists

[–]OctaviaPinfold -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you know what the problem is with tolerating intolerance, even if it's just leaving it in its "natural habitat"? It will crop up here and there, most people don't care, some scoff at it, some share an encounter amusingly as "you won't believe these crazy people" but once in a while it's different, maybe one in a hundred people will think and say "hey, I think they're onto something." Time passes like this, months, years, this intolerance picks up every hundredth person crossing paths with it and the next thing you know it's a widely believed conspiracy theory with millions of believers (maybe not even restricted to a single country or language) who are willing to attack whatever they think conflicts with their world views and even get violent IRL. Or they silently creep into everything and start making new official policies for countries; and next time you'll be called a believer in conspiracy theories for pointing it out.

[–]DraatBill 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

FDS is straight up one of the worst subs on this website. It makes me sick. How the fuck do they get away with referring to men they do not meet their ridiculously high demands as "Low Value Males". That shit is so dumb. If it was the other way around the sub would be banned within 2 weeks, I guarantee it.

[–]peanutbutterjams[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't find the post but AHS (againsthatesubreddits) explicitly said they only care about the transphobia there, not the misandry.

Their mods also claimed that misandry isn't real (post since deleted).

FDS gets a pass because it shits on men. If they targeted anyone else (except maybe white or cis people), they'd've been banned long ago.

But no. Reddit's admins are bigots, so....

[–]TekatoZikame2 7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Reddit is all against hate against "protected" groups which is basically everyone EXCEPT men and/or Christians. Those two groups are open for hunting season on Reddit.

Admins seem to be either man-hating feminists, simps or both.

[–]peanutbutterjams[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Do you feel that Reddit is particularly anti-Christian? I haven't noticed this myself.

Anti-Christianity, sure, but people have the right to be against ANY ideology, feminism and Christianity included.

You don't have a right to express any ideology without the expectation that you won't in any way be challenged on it.

[–]TekatoZikame2 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying it's openly anti Christian. I'm saying whoever wants to hate on it or insult it is free to do so without fear of consequences. However, if you tried that with another religion like Islam, you'd be punished because it's a "protected group".

It's exactly the same with man-hating. It's allowed under the guise of feminism whereas hating women is forbidden.

Prime example: r/ againstmensrights is standing tall while r /againstwomensrights got banned few days within creation IIRC.

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[–]Sandwhale123 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

More specifically, "white men"

[–]TekatoZikame2 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good call. With recent events, even the most man-hating feminists won't openly admit they hate male POC. They'd fear the backlash from fellow liberals.

[–]hottake_toothache 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I would phrase it as, "Reddit reflects the fact that society hates men."

[–]peanutbutterjams[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I would support this re-phrasing.

Although I would phrase it as "Reddit amplifies the extent to which society does not care about men."

I don't think society hates men. The opposite of love isn't hate but apathy, and that's what men face.

[–]hottake_toothache 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair enough.

[–]InterestCommercial26 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

reddit is a left wing echo chamber filled with losers who have nothing going on in their lives except to get their communist ideals praised the whole site should be taken down and I hope one day it eventually will it will be glorious.

[–]buppyu 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, women's voices are never suppressed, even when they advocate genocide (#killallmen). Men's voices are suppressed but someone how we live in a patriarchy? Whoever is having their voices suppressed are not the people in power. Th people in power to no suppress their own voices.

This, along with the long list of legal rights and privileges, clearly demonstrates that men are 2nd class citizens. We are an underclass in the civilization that we built.

All those calls for "equality" were a lie. Women only wanted equality as a stepping stone to domination. Never fall for this scam again, men.

[–]peanutbutterjams[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whoever is having their voices suppressed are not the people in power

Excellent point and worth repeating.

How are men the most privilege gender when it is their voice that is suppressed?

When men stand up against sexism, they're told they're "whining" or "crying" or given #maletears or #notallmen (mockingly) or any number of responses that don't engage with the initial objection given by the man.

That's because ANY response to a man about his "rights" snicker is a luxury bestowed upon them. The objections of the second-largest identity group in the world are irrelevant because their role as Oppressor is so clear, so concrete in feminists' minds that actually talking about the different ways in which our society treats women AND men is a joke, a favour, a barely-contained guffaw.

Feminism hurts men, because feminism dehumanizes men.

[–]Starski09 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup and I firmly believe the algorithms are set to establish hate. Nothing will keep someone scrolling longer or on a place longer than if they are mad. Happy thoughts make the mind wander, while anger gives you tunnel vision.

Going to create an account and follow and comment on misandry subs/posts alone because somehow I never see what women claim to see on here daily.

[–]Buddhalove11 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah been looking for the best of many reasons to get off of here and I think you presented a very valid one.

[–]peanutbutterjams[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You should try discord. I've found there's a higher level of discourse there and mods are a LOT less trigger-happy.

[–]Spurnout 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Reddit has very much become a sexist site.

[–]DonPepe181 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Pretty much anything that allows like minded people to meet/converse/organize has this affect. It seems to be human nature. The only solution is to isolate people is a sea of diversity. lol

[–]Marc123123 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Too much of a rational thinking for the professional haters.

[–]DavidByron2 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hate subs are already in the list of auto/default subs aren't they? Like 2X

[–]peanutbutterjams[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you have evidence that TwoX is a hate sub?

I don't disagree; I just haven't kept any links.

[–]DavidByron2 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a feminist sub; feminism is a hate movement

[–]ISEVERNAMEALREDYTAKE 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

https://imgur.com/HD1Y3Ls

theyve literally admitted it right here

[–]VerbotenVerb 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep "white people or men" are open season. Admission clear as day.

[–]Sydnaktik -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

And if you search for rights you'll see men's rights as the second result.

There's plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest that reddit admins are misandrists. I don't think this "search results" is the smoking gun you seem to think it is.

[–]peanutbutterjams[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I never said it was a smoking gun. I consider all of my posts "just another shoulder to the wheel", another brick in the bridge.

And if you search for rights you'll see men's rights as the second result.

Good. It's about gender rights, after all.

...Wait...Oof. And? FDS is explicitly hateful towards men. Are you claiming this sub is the same as FDS when it comes to hate?

PSSSSTTT ... I don't think that was the smoking gun you seem to think it was.

It rather neatly revealed your bias, though.

[–]GreedyCounty6149 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They dehumanize men

That's it. Dehumanize is the word quite literally because all human-related qualities about anything are targeted towards women: they get benefit of the doubt, are seen as inherently valuable and used as a sign of power, a dynamic no one bats an eye on because is so taken for granted. Women pleasure is viewed as sacred and ethereal, while men's is shamed and seen as an one-noted experience not worth of deep research.

As an example, articles talking about male climax never address the prostate and see the whole process through an animalesque lens. Take as an example those two posts on the subject. Notice how the male orgasm starts at 'arousal', as if women also didn't get aroused, while women's start at sensations and touch, what differs sex from mindless animal reproduction. Also, no mention of Kegels, prostate, nothing.

Men are seen as ice-cream machines, and if that isn't dehumanization by the book, I don't know what is.

[–]sammysalsa8 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are people looking for dating advice online?? Be real. Trial by error.

[–]No_Organization_124 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

these days hate is not hate if its directed at (any or all) straight, white, male.

im actually ok with this. im a straight white male. i think to end conflicts you have to let people "hit back" so to speak. before you get on me, this is basically turn the other cheek but maybe here turn the 1st cheek

but yeah, if its hate at straights, whites, males, or any combo, its not really ever going to get flagged the way ANY other equivalent would

[–]iGhostEdd -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was today's years old when I left reddit

[–]PettyCrocker_ -3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is posted a couple of times a week. We know those are bullshit subs.

[–]Uncle_Touchy1987 -4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Reddit is owned by China isn’t it?

[–]ItsKonway 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're not wrong, but FDS got chased off Reddit and is essentially dead at this point.

[–]peanutbutterjams[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, it looks like they monetized the hate movement into a steady Patreon income.

Their last post was 7 days ago so I guess this happened somewhat recently.

I've written to Patreon to protest their funding but not response so far (11 months later).

Thanks for letting me know though.

[–]sharkukri 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's pretty established that when something is socially acceptable, it's fine. It's always been socially acceptable to put men down, so it's fine.

For example, everyone is against rape; however, people find it socially acceptable to make rape jokes about men, "dropping the soap," in prison. It's a very hypocritical inherit system full of double-standards.

[–]azaleawhisperer 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And, what exactly are you doing to promote love?

Please, go get some anger management therapy.

We all have been angry and know how painful it is.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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