The pay gap myth explained graphically (for sharing)

phoenician_anarchist · 2023-02-05T14:30:01+00:00

I think the people who need this explained with an extremely simplified analogy would probably not be able to grasp the concept, no?

denisc9918 · 2023-02-05T06:01:08+00:00

Man, that's brilliant... thank you

EDIT: oh and I will share... and share and share and... LOL

Maxwell1138 · 2023-02-05T06:16:08+00:00

This is a perfect simplistic representation of this. Have as many upvotes as possible.

Angryasfk · 2023-02-05T09:06:33+00:00

A great graphic!

Let’s watch feminists dismiss it!

Flying_Reinbeers · 2023-02-05T10:54:25+00:00

So the better phrase is to call it the choices gap. Love it.

The feminist rebuttal: Women choose feathers because of men. Men bad.

AirSailer · 2023-02-05T14:29:44+00:00

Its the "gender earnings gap" not the "gender wage gap".

AaViOnBando · 2023-02-05T13:21:53+00:00

Makes sense, although I have to say that some jobs that require physical labor usually pay less (in europe) while office jobs that require less physical labor usually end up paying more for example an office worker. Which actually means that most men will probably end up getting paid less...

Acrobatic_Sport_7664 · 2023-02-05T19:50:27+00:00

I will post this on International Womens day! If that is OK.

ApprehensiveMail8 · 2023-02-06T05:29:29+00:00

You left out the part where a bunch of the men owe a bunch of the women child support payments but that doesn't count as either pay for the women or a reduction in pay for the men.

GivesStellarAdvice · 2023-02-06T15:02:36+00:00

"BuT WE hAve tO unDeRstaND tHe SocIEtaL fActOrs tHaT fORcE woMeN To cHoOsE a FeAthEr! Is iT reAlLY a CHoiCe?????"

PopcornShrrimp · 2023-02-05T10:52:21+00:00

When dealing with the earnings gap, one has to ask themselves why SO many women choose the feather? Are women innately lazy? Do they just not want to work hard? Are the jobs defined as rocks actually more valuable to society than feathers?

Are women forced to take more time off for child care meaning they don’t get promoted into ‘rock’ jobs? Are feather jobs offering more flexibility so kids can be picked up from school after work? Are high paying management jobs rock jobs and women aren’t being chosen for management positions? Or do women not want management positions?

Is maternity leave slowing womens progress at work? Is that fair? Taking a lot of time off does slow your progress is it unfair to not promote them for that reason?

Are men so focused on being rocks that women are forced to be feathers? Could two rocks raise a family? Would that be hard? Would it be fair to the kids? Would it end up costing too much in childcare and it’s better one person becomes a feather?

This is simplistic but it’s not like women want lower paying jobs. Minimum wage retail jobs suck. Line cook at McDonald’s works way harder than me and I make 10 times their wage. I’m admittedly a rock. I work a lot. My wife works part time so she can stay on top of our social obligations and kids. She’s a feather. If she decided today she wanted to be a rock, it would be hard on us. But I always made more money so she ended up going feather as it made sense. A very common story for women. Is that fair?

aren3141 · 2023-02-05T11:39:39+00:00

I’ve heard this people on this sub mention that more women are completing college now than men. I’m just wondering if the reason for that might be the same as the reason for this?

lumpynose · 2023-02-05T18:02:51+00:00

Understanding evolutionary psychology and how it affects us leads to realizing that there's a lot of innate stuff that we don't recognize or identify and they make us behave and make choices that we do. It's our version of instincts and they're preferences and behaviors that are so fundamentally true that we don't think about them the way we do learned things.

Because these things are so fundamentally true we all agree about them and they're a part of our society and culture. But because they're a part of our society it's easy to think that we learned them, which perpetuates the false idea that everything is learned.

A fundamental role or goal that evolution programmed us with is what we're supposed to "do". For men that fundamental role is to be a provider. Being good at our job, whatever we do, is part of our identity. Before we became civilized it was being a good hunter and protector. It's gender specific; it's on the Y chromosome. Women with their two X chromosomes don't have it.

AspirationsOfFreedom · 2023-02-05T23:46:12+00:00

Screenshotted for ease of posting elsewhere. Thanks!

My go to is "we can discuss how its super fucked up that arguably THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF MAINTAINING A SOCIETY, namely healthcare and teaching, gets so undervalued compared to other fields... but regarding the sexes, if the simple wagegap is reality, then i'd hire only women to save on the salary costs."

Usually doesnt make anyone open to argue :(

ComfortableBedroom78 · 2023-02-05T19:38:16+00:00

This is so funny, because there is no data attached to it, and no explanation of what jobs are feathers or rocks. Drawing a diagram doesn’t make something true at all. And what about women with the same jobs and responsibilities as men in the same company who still get underpaid???

This is just someone’s opinion with a graphic 😂

Title	The pay gap myth explained graphically (for sharing)
Author	Henry_Blair
Upvotes	241
Comments	71
Date	February 5, 2023 5:37 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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