How common/rare are false rape accusations?

InformalCriticism · 2016-08-26T19:20:42+00:00

It really depends on where you're asking that question.

There's no social utility for false rape accusations in places like Africa or Muslim countries where you're likely to be stoned to save family honor if you've been raped. Africa is also a place where rape is used as a form of terrorism by militant groups against both men and women.

If you're talking about the armed services, it varies. In my experience I have seen cases that appear to be between 1/5-1/3 false accusations, or at least exaggerated events (still considered false swearing). Co-workers who've branched out to the air force have told me they can go months without seeing a legitimate rape case, the rest are false accusations. The kicker? JAG rarely goes after the liars - it's not worth it to them, because there are actual rapists, child pornographers, and murderers out there - the lying sluts just don't rate against that kind of urgency.

I will say a lot of these false accusations are already under dubious circumstances, (i.e. she was trying to cover up an affair, or a pregnancy outside of marriage, or there was a love triangle and slut #1 didn't get picked so she's mad). Some bitches are just crazy, like my ex, who a few months after we split tried to say I raped and abused her. I'm lucky the magistrates expected more than just her word. I wouldn't have known about it had she not told my mother she tried - ikr, wtf?

Anyway, if you study rape cases long enough, the real ones seem to stand out as sudden events, sometimes/usually young people abusing substances. The ones that could go either way are when there's a lot going on at once: divorce, multiple partners, pregnancy, reputation on the line, on-and-off sexual history with the accused, or mental health problems and criminal history.

If you're cautious, you probably have nothing to worry about, just vet who you spend your free time with. Train yourself to be a good judge of character, and don't make excuses for people's bad behavior. Sounds like common sense, but people wouldn't get caught up with liars if there was such a thing. Keep your eyes open, and always be ready to walk away from someone crazy.

As for hard stats on these issues, it would take me years to go through these files, and as of yet, the DoD doesn't have a way to filter false rape cases from the real ones - you would have to sift through each one.

There's also a gray area that some women will use, and others legitimately feel they must: report with refusal to participate in the investigation. That's where the cunts say they were raped and don't help the investigation so they can just say they were too scared and save face. Then there are the actual women who were so badly brutalized that they develop mental disorders that last the rest of their lives and they literally can't function, let alone face their accusers and accurately assist investigators.

Life is a risk, all you can do is mitigate it according to your comfort level. As for whether false accusations are "somewhat common", I'd say yes; they're certainly not uncommon. But, again, it's about who you are, who you're with, and to how much risk you expose yourself.

You're going to be able to tell the crazies from the rest plenty of different ways. Are they super aggressive with you sexually? Can't wait to get you in bed? Maybe pump the breaks on that one. Have you been hanging out with her for a while and she's warming up to you little by little? Go for it.

Just think your way through your situations instead of feel, and your fear should take a backseat while you make your way into adulthood.

SmurfESmurferson · 2016-08-26T18:25:12+00:00

Men are more likely to be raped than falsely accused of rape.

Pardon the source (HuffPo is HuffPo), but click through - there's a bunch on non biased sources and studies linked

TheUniverseis2D · 2016-08-26T20:13:06+00:00

Of the 342 prisoners cleared by DNA evidence by the Innocence Project, 267 were falsely accused of rape.

andrewisgood · 2016-08-27T00:41:54+00:00

I try to look up reasonable stats online, and 10% seems to be at the very max. There was one that says 2% but it was from a bad study so it's best to ignore bad studies.

Another issue is it's kind of a dark number based on a number of factors, from women not wanting to come forward, to how police handle it, to how judges handle it where guys get a slap on the wrist and that might deter people from coming forward. I'm not going to pretend they don't exist, but people really get paranoid about it.

I've been in situations where consent was retracted and that would be the end of it, like, it's not really that hard. I feel sometimes people want to make it out to be this advanced calculus equation on what is or isn't taking away consent, but it's really not that hard if you're slightly empathetic towards others.

UA_Hammer · 2016-08-26T18:52:58+00:00

Somewhere around 10-15% of rape accusations are provably false or the accuser admits the allegations were made up, there's about a 30-40% he said she said gray area, the rest is rape. I don't have links to the studies offhand

ginasaurus-rex · 2016-08-26T20:43:15+00:00

From what I've read, no more common than false reporting of any other crime.

Ali_s1987 · 2016-08-26T21:05:37+00:00

There are instances where women are raped and dont go to the police.

There are also instances where women are not raped and falsely accuse someone of rape.

However I genuinely think that unreported rape is much more common then false accusations.

civilsaint · 2016-08-26T21:56:27+00:00

You're right to fear them, and you should fear them until this witch hunt is over. It is just like the 'repressed memory' hysteria of the early '90s.

I never thought it'd happened to me, then it did. A very unattractive and overweight girl kept trying to hook up and I kept saying no. I fell asleep on the couch and woke up to her on top of me. I yelled, and she got embarrassed (I guess she thought I would go with it) and she decided to tell her boyfriend I raped her, and it snowballed from there.

It was so surreal. The cops didn't believe her. They were pissed about how the investigation went. But in my city, a committee of feminist groups has the final say about who gets arrested, which is basically everyone.

It just rubber stamps up through the system. There was no evidence for it, other than her word, which changed from person to person that she told. That didn't matter. The only way out of it would have been to have it on video.

Scary shit.

ProbablyBelievesIt · 2016-08-26T18:51:52+00:00

If it were as common as some want you to believe, it wouldn't still be newsworthy.

A look at some of the manipulation designed to keep people afraid.

SpaceWhiskey · 2016-08-26T19:39:12+00:00

The only person I've heard of in real life who was "falsely" accused was a friend of my brother's, who my brother initially defended, that is before the dude raped someone else.

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meh613 · 2016-08-27T10:46:48+00:00

Most rapes are unreported and even fewer are prosecuted. A lot of the time, the lady thinks its her fault she was raped and is embarrassed to admit to it. Our adversarial justice system wants us to always put 100% of the blame on one side, when in reality, most cases should really split the blame.

Case in point (outside of sexual assault), was the financial crisis of 2008 the fault of the bankers, the mortgage brokers or the millions that bought the dodgy instruments knowing full well, they could not afford to pay the loans? I believe fault lies on all sides.

GavinSkulldrinker · 2016-08-28T21:43:30+00:00

You're way more likely to be accused of "being scary;" there's an implication of attempted rape there, but it's just a tactic to get rid of you if you're inconvenient.

Its hilarious, because some women will bend over backwards to explain how the guy who punched them in the face and threatened them with a knife is just misunderstood and really loves them. And others will shake in their boots and run for help when a man smiles at them and says hello from 5 feet away.

Leinadro · 2016-08-26T20:50:15+00:00

Common enough to be aware of it but dont let it run your life.

Frankly dont listen to people who try to drown your worries about being falsely accused with, "you're more likely (some other stat related to rape)".

They are pushing their own agenda which is just as bad as those that try to overblow it.

midnightvulpine · 2016-08-26T21:01:17+00:00

No one knows. Because there has yet to be a good study cited as far as I've seen. By avoiding drunk girls, you're probably doing the best thing you can to avoid most of them. At least, imo.

Don't worry so much about it. There are a lot of horrible things more likely to happen to you, which you probably never think about. You just need to realize that life is life and being paranoid just makes it more annoying. Not saying you shouldn't be aware of the people you get close to, but don't let worry stress you.

idontcarebrother · 2016-08-27T01:05:26+00:00

Sad to say at this point I automatically mentally classify women who claim to be raped as liars.

I'd say you're as careful as you need to be. All it takes is one girl.

truthuncensored · 2016-08-26T18:32:19+00:00

As common as rape.

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Title	How common/rare are false rape accusations?
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Date	August 26, 2016 6:15 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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