Is this the primary source of contention between TRP and TBP???

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2018-06-13T22:33:44+00:00

Reading reddit is amazing it's like the last 100 years of Western civilization never happened. Do you even know about the sixties and the consciousness revolution and the sexual revolution and the role of self expression and self actualization in Western European peoples?

shoup88 · 2018-06-13T22:06:02+00:00

Haha, that sounds like Jughead from Riverdale.

Personally I think this statement separates teenagers from adults. All teens think of themselves as “aggravatingly weird” (did they mean aggressive?).

I for one am not all that weird. I’m well-adjusted, social, personable, and a lot of my interests are pretty basic (marvel movies, travelling, yoga). I bet a lot of people of both pills would describe themselves like that quote, though.

Why do you thinks bloops are weird and reds are normal?

WhatIsTheMeaningHere · 2018-06-13T23:54:57+00:00

TIL that red pillers are the real normies.

DebatePony · 2018-06-13T22:07:57+00:00

TBP believes that TRP views women as lesser than men, they find this both silly and sad.

goatismycopilot · 2018-06-13T23:18:40+00:00

Anti-conformism is not a life purpose that is like one random person rambling. Other than that I am not quite sure what it is you are asking.

GermanEgo · 2018-06-14T00:09:03+00:00

This makes absolutely zero sense to me. I mean TRP has some conformist aspects but in the sense of making posts on a forum about being PC it doesnt make sense. I mean all blue pillers who post on purple instead of on blue would automatically be conforming less, right? Like blues always say, they dont have a real definition or anything, it doesnt compare very well

The real world and the internet have different standards when it comes to the conformity, so it doesnt make sense to compare the two because you are talking about people you observe making posts on TBP subreddit and comparing it with views that are shown by red pillers in the real world

ALSO, I would never put merit into an opinion someone has of themselves, im sure if I met that person I wouldnt describe them anything like they do themselves. I mean you might just call them a narcissist with an identity crisis or something, it sounds like the type of shit that someone says right before they tell you they are a taurus cyber goth or some shit. That sentence is incredibly fucking narcissistic, you really arent supposed to need to think of yourself or define yourself as badly as this person wants.

[deleted] · 2018-06-14T07:39:57+00:00

I thought reds called blues the “normies”. Btw what is WC?

I read a few reds confess to being aspie or having social anxiety. It’s pretty refreshing and honestly I think they get a lot of help from TRP by learning some social norms and flirting techniques.

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newName543456 · 2018-06-14T05:01:11+00:00

Nah.

TBP hates TRP because they believe TRP hates women, without ever stopping to think why would TRPs spend so much effort on interacting with women more efficiently if they actually hated them.

AloneOnTheStrange · 2018-06-14T06:15:19+00:00

I would say there is an element of conformity to TRP. The main selling point of TRP is that socially awkward males can achieve the things that "conformists" do; sex, relationships, active social lives. But I don't think it's the main cause of content between the pills.

Being "proud of being weird" is a fairly common trait for young girls. They want to portray themselves as a manic pixie dream girl. With the exception of identifying as weird, their social and romantic lives are completely normal. They are 100% "conformists", in all but their apparently weird personalities. I would definitely say that a huge factor in whether people accept or reject red pill ideas is how effortlessly they can fit in. People that have had it easy think everything's fair, and that you shouldn't use immoral means to achieve the success you want. People that have struggled understand things aren't fair, and you've got to do what you can to get ahead, regardless of morality.

it_takes_the_redpill · 2018-06-14T11:40:34+00:00

Short answer: no. TRP is considered against status quo generally and they consider TBP the normies. You're in the minority there with traditional Muslim values, for sure.

Entropy-7 · 2018-06-14T13:31:10+00:00

Many red pillers have a streak of individualism to them while most blue pillers are sheep.

trail22 · 2018-06-14T19:21:58+00:00

I think the difference between blue pill and red pill is having success as the person you either are or want to be versus having success being someone you arent nor particularly find morale yet effective by your own morale code.

The blue plls feel lke they like themself and the world agrees. Red pillers may claim it is their real self , but they dont exactly seem to liek themself nor like the fact that women like the fact they like them.

If there is no real AWALT , then maybe there are more women who want somone more red pillish then blue pillish. Its just a case of supply and demand, where enough women who want blu pill guys have a stable relationship and are not in the dating pool, while girl who want red pillish guys are single more and cant find enough red pill guys.

2-3-or-not-2-3 · 2018-06-14T08:24:18+00:00

No. I do not think this is the primary contention. Moreover, I think its a stupid statement because the instant you join a group you are conforming to that group (otherwise you aren't in that group).

However, there is some validity in the statement. There has been much work in the social sciences on societal cleavages which basically state that the "left" is far more likely to protest for change and the "right" is far more likely to try for change via established systems (ie voting) (This is also why it is strange in Europe to have right wing anti immigrant protests, it is outside of the normal behavior). This also makes intuitive sense because a conservative believes in the 'status quo' which is the existing system and liberals 'do not' (a simplification in speech to be efficient here.). In my view the BP-RP divide also somewhat resembles this political left-right divide. Progressives are far more likely to sit on the BP and traditionalists on the RP. With this there are many contentions between the two groups, but the main one would be what their respective view of women are, both sides taking extreme positions.

I get along with most of the blues here; while I was as a lurker I found some of them to be LOL funny and rather clever in things they said, and they are the reason I joined the conversation.

But, both sides are "evil" and overall busy with unproductive activities. I think many Blue's here are "red-ish" but identify as blue because they find the extreme in red disgusting. I follow the exact opposite view, Blue's (at least males) have the same tendencies as the red's they hate (AMALT!), but instead of doing it openly like red, they choose to threaten or degrade an equal amount but in PM's, in society they take subversive actions to accomplish their ends, and refusingly take a moral high-ground refusing to think for themselves (NA"BP"ALT). That is my contention with them and why I pick the red flair, Always trust the devil that reveals himself over the ones that hides in the shadows - they are far more dangerous.

Dweller_of_the_Abyss · 2018-06-13T23:06:24+00:00

TBP and TRP hate each other because they have different preferences on how the world should work. TRP is primarily made up of systemizers and transactionalists w/dry dicks; while it seems to me that TBP is made up primarily of social/feeler types who lack empathy and are into social justice.

Title	Is this the primary source of contention between TRP and TBP???
Author	mach_like_a_flame
Upvotes	1
Comments	106
Date	June 13, 2018 9:51 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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