Why don’t ppl get extra help?

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wolfloveyes · 2024-03-04T05:09:53+00:00

Who told you that they don't?

Look at UK fatberg analysis. There is evidence that SARMs are being used to match physique expectations by nearly everyone.

People are just hush hush about it.

80% people who go to gym use SARMs Or anabolic. Not everyone responds well to it though, and many lack training / diet discipline.

I knew fat slobs and skinny twigs on 600mg testosterone, only thing you could see was acne and bloat, not much muscle.

Just because you hop on HGH or Anabolics, won't transform you into some Alpha Male.

Very few can achieve that. Base needs to be there.

I've found women aren't much attracted to bulky dudes, so I just lean maxx and maintain some muscles. But looking cut is more important than lookin huge.

neemptabhag · 2024-03-04T05:23:04+00:00

HGH is ok but a doctor should prescribe.

TRTGymBro · 2024-03-04T12:21:47+00:00

Let's see - women get their boobs cut open and inserted big plastic bags, they inject rubber into their butts to appear bigger, they inject literal neurotoxins into their faces to make their wrinkles disappear, they inject god knows what in their lips to make them nice and plump, and that's on top of putting chemicals on their faces every single day since the time they were 13.

And men - I'm scared of needles, steroids bad. Lol. Then don't complain you can't attract female attention.

sixsevenrice · 2024-03-04T05:32:15+00:00

Hypergamy is more powerful than extra help.

YtBlue · 2024-03-04T08:32:35+00:00

HGH doesn't grow you taller than predetermined height. Steroids do work, and do get women but are harmful, if you don't know what your doing. A gram of anabolic is pretty safe provided you know what your doing but also can be pretty detrimental if you don't. Plus most people don't like needles.

ThorLives · 2024-03-04T05:51:55+00:00

I don't want to mess up my health by taking steroids. I have friends who have told me they are thinking of getting on steroids - specifically to attract women - and I tell them not to because I don't trust the long-term effects of steroids. Also, if you take steroids for too long, your body's testosterone production can permanently shut-down, meaning you have to continue taking steroids for the rest of your life or else you'll have low testosterone.

The other problem with steroids is that it can prevent a guy from getting erections. One of my female friends told me that she dated a guy who was on steroids. He would ALWAYS deny it and he would post his photos on instagram about his "natty gains" ("natty gains" means that he was claiming to be natural - i.e. not on steroids). I mention this because guys are often denying that they are on steroids. But my main point was that she also said that he could never get it up in the bedroom. They dated for over a year and never once had PIV sex.

I mean, how shitty would that be if a guy took steroids and started attracting women, but the flipside of the steroids is that he couldn't actually have sex. Sounds like a weird trick that the devil would play on somebody.

There can be other health complications. One is "gynomastia". "Gynecomastia is an overdevelopment or enlargement of the breast tissue in men or boys." Your body converts testosterone into estrogen, and estrogens causes breasts to grow. Guys on steroids will take other drugs to reduce the conversion of testosterone into estrogen to prevent themselves from growing breasts. Sometimes you can spot guys who are steroids because their nipples are puffy - because they weren't careful enough with the blockers. (Do a google image search on "gynomastia" if you want to know what it looks like.) The only way to get rid of gynomastia is surgery.

Another sign of steroids is the enlarged gut. Steroids cause other parts of a man's body to grow. When a guy has an enlarged gut while also having visible abs, it means he's been taking steroids for a while. I assume this is caused by steroids causing their intestines to grow, making their stomach look bigger.

Steroids can also enlarge the heart.

Ideally, a guy taking steroids is being closely monitored by a doctor. It costs money to be doing monthly visits with a doctor and doing blood tests.

itm4l2000 · 2024-03-04T06:05:40+00:00

Because like any external source of validation such as steroids, the conditioning, struggle and ability has been bypassed.

Sure men who take steroids do the effort but many know once they stop taking it they won't be able to maintain those muscle and strength gains.

A lot of young men learn the hard way. They may have the appearance of a man but they don't have the internal fortitude to deal with life per se compared to someone who has experienced true struggle. It's a big mismatch of congruency - what appears external and what is conditioned internally.

Women aren't stupid either, they actively search for congruency and can tell when the external and the internal don't align.

There is no substitute for do the work.

KayRay1994 · 2024-03-04T07:07:05+00:00

The side effects aren’t worth it, plus to me there is always the thought tied to it of being fake, or an easy shortcut. I’d much rather go all natty and hey, in terms of pure strength and ability its worked well so far.

Pathosgrim · 2024-03-04T07:19:45+00:00

Natural > drugs/surgeries

Wattehfok · 2024-03-04T10:43:31+00:00

Because you don’t just fuck about with your hormones without some pretty significant side effects.

We’re far too blasé about this shit.

FutureBannedAccount2 · 2024-03-04T12:25:13+00:00

Money
Legalities
Self respect

Mr_Chad_Thunderpenis · 2024-03-04T12:55:49+00:00

Vast majority of people can get a good physique if they are consistent in their workouts and diet for years. They don't really need steroids, it's actually stupid to even consider them unless you're a competitive bodybuilder/athlete or something. Also you're comparing short term usage of HGH to long term usage of PEDs, it's a bad comparison. PEDs are more like a lifelong commitment. Once you stop, you lose most of the gains that come with having an excessive amount of androgenic steroids in your body and you revert to what you can sustain with your naturally produced ones. And long term usage comes with multiple side effects - from acne, to hair loss, to ED, to infertility, to internal vital organ damage, to mental issues etc.

For men the "limiter" mostly comes in terms of facial attractiveness and height. Leg extending surgery has very high cost, long recovery time, comes with extremely high risk and complications, reduces functionality on your legs and messes with your body's symmetry(since the extra inches all go to your legs, not spine). It's not a routine procedure like getting a boobjob. Only a mentally challeged person would even consider it. Plastic surgery on the face can probably increase your attractiveness a bit, depending on what your base is and what your flaw is, but certainly not to a great extent.

Everyone has a genetic limit. And while you might work around it and go a bit higher with reasonable enhancements, it's almost never a slam dunk. You can't do much about it.

SlowEffective8146 · 2024-03-04T14:41:45+00:00

Why don't women just all get plastic surgery to make sure they have big tits?

Why is the onus always on men to satisfy women's never ending hypergamy?

Ok-Dust-4156 · 2024-03-04T15:12:59+00:00

Using steroids just because you want it might be very dangerous. And it won't help because your problems are in your head. Even if you "fix" your height then you'll just find something else to blame.

Title	Why don’t ppl get extra help?
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