Working in a female-dominated profession as a young woman has really shown me that women are our own worst enemy.

MycologistDeep5747 · 2022-08-08T08:28:53+00:00

Ive come to the realization that insecure women are the worst. Im a fashion model and nobody calls me names besides the crusty girls in my university. When you meet girls that are confident and/or mind their business then you'll see its only the crusty musty insecure little women that treat you that way. It sucks that you dont have anyone (but the people on top) that appreciate you tho.

TheBunk_TB · 2022-08-08T10:54:54+00:00

I have used the term "The Herd" or "herding". When you are outside of "The Herd", you run into some of this stuff.

leftajar · 2022-08-08T17:02:01+00:00

Extremeley relevant article: all-female marketing firm implodes due to infighting.

It's a fun read.

Independent-Hall4929 · 2022-08-08T18:15:05+00:00

Maybe make an effort to be more charming and personable. Try and be more relatable, so they don’t feel so insecure. It’s sad, but you’ll have to go over and beyond due to your looks. Otherwise look for a new role. No need to be this stressed everyday.

Redlimetree · 2022-08-08T08:22:15+00:00

I understand your frustrations.

Workplace politics are hell. Especially if you shine above insecure people (of either gender). It's only insecure people who pull other people down to make themselves look better.

fatbitchonline · 2022-08-08T14:35:32+00:00

this level of immaturity happens a lot and it’s so sad seeing women talk about these experiences and being told that they’re the problem because “well why else wouldn’t all these girls like you?” and then they categorize you as a “not like the other girls” girl.

i’m really sorry you have to put up with their bullying. they’re no better than some middle school girl making rude comments to their classmate. that is honestly what that behavior reminds me of.

they’re envious and insecure of you and what you have. it reflects on them, not you. honestly if it were me, i’d really shut it down the next time someone does that. i can put up with bullshit from people, especially coworkers, but if it shows no signs of stopping, i’d speak up. you can kindly, professionally, calmly, yet firmly tell them that what they’re doing is not okay, and how it makes you feel, and that they wouldn’t like it if it was done to them. don’t be aggressive, but be assertive. you’re right for doing it, you’ll look right to them and others too, and they’ll embarrass themselves.

rebeccabrixton · 2022-08-08T13:27:26+00:00

Yes yes YES! I’ve been collecting non-insecure women mates all my life, something about my fairly pretty face and very positive personality really pisses them off. I’ve noticed the fatter and older I’ve gotten, the more friends I make. Glad you can see the female nature at one of its worse, we women are great but also have our blind spots.

_Pumpkin_Muffin · 2022-08-08T16:01:21+00:00

I'm sorry you're going through a stressful time. At the beginning everyone was friendly, from what I understand. Why do you think that changed?

cast-away-ramadi06 · 2022-08-08T20:27:27+00:00

Hey, just letting you know that this is your sign that you have poor leadership at work. High performing / high status men also have to deal with the similair dynamics in toxic work cultures. That's why the best advice I can give you is to seek out higher performing teams to be a part of - they simply won't have the time or emotional energy to put up with the kind of toxicity you're describing.

luxeluxeluxe · 2022-08-08T21:31:15+00:00

Avoid feminists at all costs. Nothing good will come from befriending such people. Try and find other red pill type women.

Shortstraw-777 · 2022-08-09T01:12:34+00:00

Yup! I’ve had to experience this at work. They try to find your insecurities or something imperfect about you and then try to use it against you. They HATE to hear people say good things about you.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2022-08-09T03:48:50+00:00

Who knew women could be catty? You ran into some bitter cranks, who are jealous of your youth, fitness and beauty. How do you go through life, you’ll have to learn to collect the cool people, and let the aholes go. Your coworkers are, for the most part, your coworkers. They are not your friends. A few will cross over from the coworker to friend barrier but not really that many.

Good luck, and don’t take too much personally.

LightOverWater · 2022-08-08T12:57:02+00:00

Socially attractive

What does this mean?

Teacup000 · 2022-08-08T16:13:44+00:00

Oh man, as much as I wish you weren't going through this, it's comforting to know I'm not alone.

It's sad that having something that others want is enough to make them dislike you, regardless of your character. It's also enough to void you of sympathy (think of how much we feel sorry for Hollywood stars).

I spent a lot of my school age years trying to dumb myself down in the areas I excelled. I still feel a bit uncomfortable when people comment on my looks.

It feels so awful to wonder if the reason I struggle in my friendships with other young women is because I'm considered pretty and slim. It's much easier to think I must just have a huge ego and am missing some massive personality flaw that's turning people away.

They say it's lonely at the top, right?

I've decided to steer into the skid. I'll just keep improving myself until I can feel confident, and not guilty, about my genetic advantages. My husband loves me and encourages my personal growth, which is a great source of motivation.

free_breakfast_ · 2022-08-08T18:19:44+00:00

Crab Mentality

Tall Poppy Syndrome

The people you work with can make or break your job. Ultimately, it's best to try to surround yourself with people that will have your back, support you, and care for you. But that's not always going to be the available option, so you'll need to get ready for corporate land.

Corporate Land New Rats Guide
Corporate Land Working With Women
The rest of /u/vasiliyzaitzev corporate land series

Glad-Discount-4761 · 2022-08-09T03:44:52+00:00

I feel you.I already learnt when I was in college. Now I am glad I don't have sister.

One girl was nice to me and used to talk nicely with my first bf,I found out he started affair with her(I don't know if it is her fault or his)

On my second bf,my friends used to tell me do this or that ,he is wrong or why I am being too kind or whatever.Sadly I listened to them.Relationship ended.

In my country,for some government jobs,we have to take exam for it.In work, whenever I get break.I used to prepare for it( like watching tutorials in phone).Some women (they were my friends)decided to tell this to my boss but they said I don't do any work just doing another stuff (which is lie).I always complete work and give it to boss at proper time. Somehow,I got fired.

I was confused.I was not even like pretty woman.What would be they jealous about?I thought maybe they are trying to bring me down so I don't succeed.

From that day,I never looked at women same way.I always roll my eyes when I hear about sisterhood. I decided to stop making friends with women.

There is reason why you see mother in law issues not father in law.I will never believe woman are more kind than man

Now only have 1 female friend and rest are guys. I never felt so much better and literally stress was gone

CyberTutu · 2022-08-10T10:28:29+00:00

I'm sending you a virtual hug but I know that won't help you much as it wouldn't help me.

I'm in my mid/late 20s and above average attractive, a white passing POC, green eyes, 170cm tall, also currently working in a demanding clinical role. I've always known that women get jealous, and have known to be careful and expected them to undermine me.

Sadly in my case I also learned a lot of social skills later in life and haven't been social for most of my younger years, as various family issues outside of my control meant I led an isolated childhood and early life.

But the thing is, you will always find some women who will be nice to you and will want to be your friend. Either because they have as much as you have, or less commonly because thye're just extra kind and nonjealous people. They may be few and far in between, but they exist. So in my mind it's always better to keep putting myself out there, trying new things, meeting new people going out more - probably putting in MORE effort doing these things than most people. Try to make friends with similarly attractive people.

It's also important to appreciate your beauty and what you have and use that as motivation when external motivation is lacking.

I wish I had better advice - sometimes it becomes difficult to motivate myself using this alone - but this is the best I have. Will look at the advice the other ladies have written below.

StephJ___ · 2022-08-10T14:11:55+00:00

I'm sorry this is happening to you. I don't have much advice but wanted to share a friend of mine related to me during her clinicals another classmate showed up drunk, passed out in front of elderly patients, and the teacher literally drove her home and she went on to pass anyway. Honestly they might have the same sort of issues going on now that I think about it. She said she looked at the profession differently after that incident too, so you're not alone in just feeling overwhelmed.

aussiedollface2 · 2022-08-18T22:31:16+00:00

Straight up facts. Be careful who you keep in your inner circle. I’ve found that surrounding myself with similar value women is better, not because I’m shallow, but because I got sick of the BS lowkey cut downs and snide remarks xo

Such_Beginning_1629 · 2022-08-08T10:21:16+00:00

That is the employer dividing you, setting up expectations and demanding you all go above and beyond to keep your job. I worked in a field that also has a very competition oriented flair around it while being a care job first and foremost.

whorledstar · 2022-09-02T02:39:19+00:00

You need to read 48 Laws of Power.

“Be wary of friends— they will betray you more quickly, for they are easily aroused to envy. They also become spoiled and tyrannical. But hire a former enemy and he will be more loyal than a friend, because he has more to prove. In fact, you have more to fear from friends than from enemies. If you have no enemies, find a way to make them.”

Title	Working in a female-dominated profession as a young woman has really shown me that women are our own worst enemy.
Author	WorthSevere5323
Upvotes	120
Comments	34
Date	August 8, 2022 7:15 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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