4chan strikes again. Very simple explanation on feminism and "beta males".

Mechbiscuit · 2014-10-24T22:01:15+00:00

One of the reasons TRP and feminism butt heads so badly is because feminists believe that all sexism stems from gender roles. That's not something that I necessarily disagree with but it depends your on attitude toward gender roles that makes that statement offensive or not.

What I do disagree with is the feminist belief that gender roles have been created by society and that men and women are "equal" and their roles are actually interchangeable. In the age of political correctness, I cannot say without criticism that "men are better leaders" and are "biologically hard wired to be that way", something I believe wholeheartedly. I'm not saying women can't lead or that women shouldn't lead, I'm just saying that men are just better at it.

The door goes both ways, however. Women are hard wired to be better listeners and better communicators. Again, not to say that men are incapable of listening or communicating properly, women are simply better at it AGAIN for biological reasons.

What we have now is a culture that promotes "sameism" under the guise of "equality". Men SHOULD be allowed to show emotion, they SHOULD be allowed to be stay at home dads and hey, a man with tits SHOULD be just as valuable as a mate as a man who works hard to get the abbs he wants.

But none of this is the case for one simple reason which is our sole reason for existing to begin with: Our brains are built biologically to further the species. End of.

In 2014 we think of ourselves as post modern and that it really doesn't matter anymore. We are enlightened. It is now a choice whether you want to pro-create regardless of bare aching desire to have sex. Porn has short-wired our brains and fooled us into thinking that we don't need a mate. Social networking and hookup apps have eliminated our need for courtship. In a way, perhaps we have evolved past out primary biological purpose. Even marriage, an institution based solely on preservation of the family unit to raise children has become selfish and corrupted beyond repair.

Where does that leave us as men? I'll tell you. Since we're not here to pro-create, provide or protect any more we still have one thing left which can fulfil us as a deeper level.

Do you know what that is?

Desire. Women will always need to be desired. That's our hook. At a deeper level for us as men, we need to be affirmed. Those 2 things can go hand in hand, albeit for a night.

I discovered that one of the most painful things a women can do when you're talking to her is to remove her affirmation simply by walking away.

lispychicken · 2014-10-24T15:17:01+00:00

I have a very good female friend of mine who is a Red Pill type of girl. Her response to the "nice guys" is that they're too easy to be had, too much of a walkover, too much of a yes man without a mind of their own. She said she knows her place at home and that it's after her husband. she said she loves having her man have his own mind, not always agree just because he's a beta/subservient to the pussy.. and she doesn't want someone she can rule over.. in her words "I want a man, like my father is and my grandfather was. Don't give me a skinny jeans wearing boy, and if he's wearing flannel, he better be outside chopping wood, not in a coffee shop"

avagacadabra · 2014-10-24T14:44:55+00:00

I just try my hardest to not give a fuck about what other people think. It's becoming progressively easier.

ThousandTruths · 2014-10-24T15:25:13+00:00

The more beta males, the better. Less competition.

babybelly · 2014-10-24T23:28:36+00:00

wow this hacker 4chan has his fingers everywhere

disposablevcard · 2014-10-24T17:07:53+00:00

A lot of reason beta and below men hate alphas is because they were bullied by alphas. See, it wasn't enough that the alpha was physically and perhaps mentally, a superior specimen. He had to repeatedly rub their noses in it with invasive displays of dominance.

I think that the system itself causes this though, by constraining natural alphas with invasive displays of dominance by the older authority figures, which the alphas then mimic by kicking it on downward to weaker males as an outlet for their frustration.

So, for instance, and this is a gross oversimplification, a jock and a math nerd could become friends and help each other with each other's weaknesses, but instead they polarize into mutually hostile sub-cultures. Sometimes they do become friends though, to their mutual benefit.

trpSenator · 2014-10-24T22:08:10+00:00

I've been saying this since I've been here, literally every weak. All these rad fems and white knights are fucking fat idiot losers with no intention to better themselves. Of course the fat fuck of a female pig wants a fat acceptance movement, or the huge slut to not be held accountable for fucking around. Duh.

The problem is that the internet gives them a voice which gives them the illusion that there is a "discussion" going on.

Hrodrik · 2014-10-24T16:01:42+00:00

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Goonermuzzy · 2014-10-24T16:05:19+00:00

I'm new here, I've been a beta for most of my life and am transitioning to Alpha. One thing that has worked for me recently is treating good looking girls as if they are ugly. Can someone give me some advice on this method if it has worked for you as well?

2014-10-24T22:58:11+00:00

Feminists believe that roles are infinitely interchangeable, and stands on research shows that when both partners feel they have egalitarian roles in marriages they are statistically far and away more happy than traditional male/female couples. This misses the fact that egalitarian does not mean that there is a loss of male-female complementary power. You have have a TRP frame, and still socially contract for a feeling of mutual gain.

edit: grammar

ExpendableOne · 2014-10-24T15:14:10+00:00

Two things that jump out at me as just being completely off about this post. For one, the fact that some men might not want to be restricted by gender roles, or arbitrary notions of masculinity, has very little to do with men feeling inferior(and, if they do, they have every right not to want to be judged on ancient non-sense that no longer really applies to the modern day). Either way, the existence of gender roles are just needless restrictions, not standards. If anything, the problem would be that society judges men on all the wrong standards, rather than seeking "no standards at all".

Secondly, the idea that guys think women are asexual because they are innately kind to women they want to have sex with is a pretty ridiculous statement to make. You can still be nice to someone and be sexual. One of the biggest issues that nice men end up facing is this notion that they're kindness represents a lack of sexuality, when that couldn't really be further from the truth. People aren't asexual because they like to be good people. Sex and nice are not mutually exclusive by any means. Women acting like guys are eunuchs, and absolutely refusing to take any kind of initiative, because guys are nice to them is the problem. Not guys thinking that women don't want to have sex.

SillyAmerican · 2014-10-24T15:13:20+00:00

I really want to have some email blast sent out to every guy that says whether or not your in the top 20%. haha the email invites the top 20% to a convention, everyone shakes hands and drinks scotch. Everyone else gets an email that says "You're not top 20% material, get in the gym, stop being a bitch."

LadyLumen · 2014-10-24T18:39:10+00:00

I think this 4chan guy has a point. Most of the most Beta, white knight guys I know are not manly and get made fun of by manlier men. So these Blue Pill guys decide, "fuck men," and embrace feminism. Meanwhile the guys they hate are pounding the women they love, which makes the Betas hate these guys even more, and flock to Feminism even harder.

2014-10-24T16:45:06+00:00

lol, I was in that thread yesterday. People were flipping their shit, calling OP a genius just for dropping some elementary TRP.

It's funny how 4chan tends to look down on this place. They're so "redpilled," and yet most of them buy into the feminists' strawmen of this sub, even though we are basically allies.

small_drawings · 2014-10-24T16:44:52+00:00

I buy into a lot of red pill stuff, but the obsession with having huge muscles is seriously a fuckin compensation around here. Do you actually think that having muscles means that naturally all women want that? I have fucked more women than any of my friends and I am dangerously skinny. I get to fuck every girl who doesn't like the fuckin stereotypical steroid jockey and it has worked for years. I have never lost a girl to some ape, nor stolen a girl from someone who's jacked. Some girls don't want Neanderthals. I have fucked way knorr bitches who care about my knowledge of shakespeare and culture than care about my muscles or lack there of. If you are 1) decent looking 2) funny 3) dominant/confident you can fuck anyone you want. Muscles are some accessory that is about as important as wearing a hat or not

aesthetics4ever · 2014-10-24T16:34:26+00:00

Betas, when will they learn...

2014-10-24T20:37:19+00:00

I always feel the problem with these arguments is in the word "masculinity" because the way most see it as a developed term is the muscle bound douche bag which yes is very masculine but also always doing what you want and standing for your point of view and not giving in is masculine. People tend to just reduce the trait of masculine down to physical appearance because to them it makes it easier for them to identify away from.

If a woman starts telling you what she finds attractive in a guy ie tattoos ,hair etc, it is all a lie, these men generally tend to show a list of traits ie, masculinity which does not necessarily incorporate physical strength but the strength to do what the fuck you want and not worry about others peoples perceptions of you. This can be you acting like a little kid being all bouncy and fucking around, she will try and bring you down..if you just keep going doing what you want to do that is masculine

LittleCrazee · 2014-10-24T14:57:33+00:00

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tippitytoppitykek · 2014-10-24T15:18:14+00:00

There is no evidence for the beta male/alpha male dichotomy or spectrum.

Title	4chan strikes again. Very simple explanation on feminism and "beta males".
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Date	October 24, 2014 2:10 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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