Charisma, method acting and the reason for the harsh tone of this sub

All__fun · 2015-10-06T13:13:32+00:00

presence, power, and warmth

That sounds exactly like "The Charisma Myth" By Olivia Fox Cabane

Not to hi-jack your post, but I'll post my notes on the "Charisma Myth"

Lower the intonation of my voice towards the end of my sentence
Reduce the # of Head Nods
Pause for 2 seconds before I speak.

• How to stay Present - Wiggle mY toes.

• Responsibility Transfer - My story is already wrritten, Put it in Gods hands.

•• How to handle a difficult experience.

Take a Deep Breath. And shake out my body, ensure that I have no physical discomfort adding to my already tense mind.

De-dramatize - I must realize that I am experiencing Physical sensations, not life threatening.

Distigmatize Discomfort - It is normal to feel this way, becuase it happens to everyone. I should not feel ashamed or agitated because this is normal, everyone experiences this. Think of How my Idol or role Model would react to this situation.
Nuetralize Negativity (Nuetralizing unhealthy thoughts.) - Dont Assume My thoughts are accurate. Assume I am missing many elements, many of them positive. Name the feelings I am feeling. Don't use "I"(There is shame being felt, NOT, I am feeling shame). The worst case scenario, is often survive-able.
Re-write Reality - Write in the past tense (The speech went well.) Consider alternative realties, what else could it be?

Transfer Responsibility - It's all taken care of, my story has already been written. • •

• Visualize Success before any important event. Visualize as specific as possible how happy everyone is about my performance. how much they benefited from it, and how good it was!!!!! Engage all 5 senses (Sight,touch,smell,hear,taste)

• How to create GoodWill towards someone - Find anything nice to think/say about them. ANYTHING!!!

• Going to a party? call the host and ask for the dress code. Job Interview? Go by the office beforhand to see how the employees are dressed.

• Proper handshake Stand up, visible Hands, Eye Contact, and a warm smile Hand Position is perpendicular. thumb pointing to cieling. Space between thumb and pointe finger. Flat Palm.

Sitting Arrangements Sitting face to face= the other person tends to speak in shorter sentences, is more likely to argue, and recall less of what was said during the conversation.

I should sit right next to or 90 degree angle from them. This is most comfortable.

Also avoid seating someone with their back to an open space. This seating arrangment causes the breathing rate, heart-rate and blood pressure to increase rapidly. And by association, their discomrfort MAY likely affect their perception of you.

Looking into someones eyes, can cause increased affection and passionate feelings.

Hold eye contact for 3 full seconds at the end of my interaction with someone. People will feel that You have truly paid attention to them.

Treat EVERYONE Like an old friend.

Low Status Gestures = fidgeting with clothes, hair or face, constantly nodding, constantly using "ummmm". These gestures show insecurity. Fidgeting decreases presence, thus Charisma.

Pause In between Sentences.

Ask for people opinion not advice. Opinion is giving freely, advice has to be tailored specifically to my scenario.

SHOW APPRECIATION!

giVING BAd news**

Think about that person emotional state, how has their day been?

Body language is KEY!!

When criticizing, tell them how this constructive criticism can benefit you. (I want you to get promoted, this is why I am telling you.)

Focus on a few key points, specific key points.

Start with a positive beginning, give re-assurance. give them value and recognize their worth. acknowledge their positive contributions. Aim to end on a positive notes.

Tell them what I want to see, do not tell them what I do not want to see.

"In the future I would like to see the presentation done a few day earlier"

Avoid using "no problem" or "don't worry," because people will remember "problem" or "hurry." Rephrase, like "we'll take care of it."

Burn_The_Thunder · 2015-10-06T18:31:02+00:00

Imagine a character who you want to be like and ask, "what would they do in this situation?" and then just play the role.

Been doing this with Daniel Craig's Bond.

bl33dingr3d · 2015-10-06T19:37:28+00:00

This is great advice.

Something else I've found helpful in being more charismatic and having more of a presence is to slow down my movements. Don't wildly gesticulate with hand gestures, don't make jerky movements, etc. Especially if eyes are on you: focus on slow motion movements. It helps me consciously focus on my posture, movements, and inevitably makes me more careful about what I say and how I say it.

KyfhoMyoba · 2015-10-06T21:26:18+00:00

He suggests a path similar to method acting. Imagine a character who you want to be like and ask, "what would they do in this situation?" and then just play the role.

How is this not "faking"? And PUA methodology is usually the same as TRP: practice until you internalize it and it becomes part of who you are.

hasen9 · 2015-10-06T23:40:22+00:00

Awesome, will add the book to my list of readings.

King describes charismatic people people as possessing three key traits: presence, power, and warmth

Nice to see it distilled down to basic essentials.

King suggests that none of these can be consistently faked. All of them can be cultivated.

Imagine a character who you want to be like and ask, "what would they do in this situation?" and then just play the role.

Sounds practical enough. For me that character has to be Lelouch Lamperouge.

It also clears up something for me - the purpose of the harsh tone of this sub. Nothing should be able to phase you. You should be unflappable. It's like when the drill sergeant tells recruits they're maggots - it's to activate their internal strength mechanisms. The harsh tone here helps men to literally man up. As has been said before, it's not a bug, it's a feature.

While generally I agree with this sentiment, I don't see the relationship to the topic. This has nothing to do with charisma.

It's more about deliberately putting yourself in a disadvantaged situation to push you to rise up. Your energy gets focused.

If you never learned to fight, maybe the fastest way to learn is to seek out trouble. *

When I was 10 I was constantly beat up. After about 2 years I got strong enough that the people who used to start fights with me stopped doing that and preferred to just get along. It's not that I beat them up or anything like that. I just wasn't an easy target anymore, and starting fights with me became troublesome for them too.

When you come from a place of physical fights, you won't be phased by stupid things like "micro-aggression" and similar bullshit that feminists make up.

* Disclaimer:

This is obviously not an advice to seek out trouble. If you're an adult, the only kind of trouble you could possibly seek are with gangs and mafias. You will probably get yourself killed before you get a chance to learn anything.

If you're stuck in a rut at your current job, maybe the best option is to quit, even without a particular plan in mind. Being without income will force you to prioritize; figure out what's really important and what doesn't matter.

This last bit is actually advice that I would give, and an advice that I follow myself.

Does it really matter to have a comfortable but boring job just because it brings you comfortable income? Those who seek out comfort all the time will not get very far. One should learn to embrace pain.

destinypallooker · 2015-10-06T19:18:42+00:00

It's funny - whenever I post about how this sub focuses too much on the gym, these little maggots come out of the woodwork. To argue my point? Not usually. No, they'd rather downvote my posts into oblivion and try to make snide comments because of their hurt feelings. Lol. Htfu.

Dickwheel · 2015-10-07T11:52:29+00:00

I think what I lack most is warmth.

Many people especially women I date get intimidated by me (too much power and not enough emotion).

trpill · 2015-10-07T12:54:39+00:00

How do you compare the book to the charisma myth

14931125 · 2015-10-06T11:32:38+00:00

King suggests that none of these can be consistently faked (translation: PUA methodology is a fail)

Dude, that is the exact opposite of what game is about. PUA is about cultivating ones best self to improve with girls and in life. One of the ways of doing this is via a high volume of interactions to try to squeeze years of social experiences into a smaller time frame.

I suggest that you learn more about modern pickup, as from what you have stated, I am assuming you have many preconceptions that are completly wrong and stopping yourself from learning, improving and becoming the best version of yourself.

throwaway_divorce_11 · 2015-10-06T12:18:32+00:00

I can't speak to PUA (I'm in monk mode anyway, and I may stay here).

But, and speaking without reference to politics, I've been thinking about a man in particular who's alpha as fuck, and embodies those three characteristics: Obama.

Look up "unflappability" in the dictionary, and there's a picture of president Obama.

Assaulted by vipers and retards daily, and it never fazes him.

I don't think that guy ever lets himself show upset. Cool as ice. Maybe he smokes like a chimney in the White House basement to calm his nerves. Whatever works!

"What would Obama do?" should be my mantra from now on.

RedDeadlift · 2015-10-07T03:36:42+00:00

Imagine a character who you want to be like and ask, "what would they do in this situation?" and then just play the role.

This is great advice. I will put this into practice starting tomorrow.

bogeyd6 · 2015-10-06T13:29:11+00:00

This was huge for me - not allowing negative emotions to overwhelm you is a choice and an exercise of will.

Partly true. Negative emotions are like bags of rocks. All you have to do is set them down.

It's like when the drill sergeant tells recruits they're maggots - it's to activate their internal strength mechanisms.

It seems like that when you are full on beta. Fact is, it's just a bunch of alphas who bother to help you, but you cannot expect a group of alpha male's to be kind and consider your feelz. It's just not done.

Title	Charisma, method acting and the reason for the harsh tone of this sub
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