How much easier does money make it?

ABurritoBandito · 2023-03-02T21:45:35+00:00

Money can buy things:

-Your own place located near good date spots/bars

-Clothes that fit properly and are nicely styled

-Time: potentially used for gym, meal prep, sleep, hobbies, or going out

You will notice these things are related to logistics or attractiveness. In other words, money is instrumental. The only way money ITSELF will make you more attractive is if you have a real shit load. I know people like this and yeah girls like it, but they don’t tend to like you as much as what you can provide for them. This creates short-term transaction based relationships.

Also, traveling doesn’t make people interesting. Most people just hang out in museums, see tourist sites, eat food, or sit on a beach. Does having viewed the Mona Lisa or Notre Dame Cathedral make me attractive? No.

TRPCops · 2023-03-02T21:36:52+00:00

You're basing your self worth on pussy bro. That's your major malfunction. Going back to mod duties now

PrinceLKamodo · 2023-03-02T22:26:03+00:00

Money will get you a certain type of girl that money would not get you.

you will have ability to go to night clubs other guys can't go and places other guys can't go.. thus competition is less fierce and the men to women ratios are higher.

women will perceive higher value when you go to these places. As for every 1 of you their is 5 of them.

Still can't be a geek though.

temerity18 · 2023-03-02T22:27:44+00:00

The last hurdle is escalation. You need nothing more. Read my "Escalation for dummies"

Other than that you seem to be on course to a great life.

319Skew · 2023-03-03T01:05:33+00:00

You're not getting laid because you're giving off lack of experience vibes and thirst.

Fear of escalation is holding you back.

There's no right answer but you can double down on the self development and circle back when you're in your 30s. Monk mode. Focus on your goals and then learn through trial and error how to seduce and close.

You can also pull that bandaid off now and realize that your lack of experience is giving you lack of confidence which contributing to your lack of experience.

Hit the side bar. Learn that you're a man and use the wisdom from other men on seduction.

Also, dates aren't too much of an accomplishment. It'd say that difficulty is on par getting a job in fast food if you low on looks and tying your shoes with your eyes closed if you're mildly attractive.

youngfuture7 · 2023-03-02T21:39:54+00:00

Ehh I have been a broke student for the past 4 years. I can say that money doesn’t play a role if your game and looks are good. You don’t need a place, even though it makes everything incredibly easier and more comfortable for both. My backseats still have cum stains and I’ve had girls pay hotels for me.

Seems like you can’t manage to escalate sexually. I bet some of those 15 girls had a place of their own or would be able to invite you over to their parents house.

Now that I have a fulltime job, I can say though that it makes everything easier. You can do more fun shit without stressing about money. More fun can equal to more touching = both getting horny and want to fuck. + money can get your own apartment where it is pretty much easy mode from there on since you can say something dumb to hang at your own place.

Also, focus on yourself. You’re saying that you don’t like your study. Do you want to waste 4 years of your time and money on something that doesn’t make you happy at all? You got other things to think about, not pussy.

xxdunkelheit666xx · 2023-03-02T23:04:03+00:00

financial security is great but beware of girls using you for your money unless you don’t care about that

Green__Bananas · 2023-03-02T22:42:50+00:00

A lot easier if you use it wisely. I got a lot more girls in my mid twenties as a high earner than as a broke college kid. Key is to use the money to fundamentally improve yourself, not simp or waste it on luxury items.

tropicsGold · 2023-03-03T05:24:50+00:00

I have two comments that will give you a huge benefit, immediately, with no added work at all, and deliver a minimum of 1000 billion percent improvement, guaranteed. So get a pen and paper because you are going to want to make a special note.

ONE. Your comment about travel and how your lack of travel makes you boring, this shows me you COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTAND women and conversation. There is only one thing women find interesting, and it is NOT hearing about your boring trip to such and such.

The one thing they find interesting and want to talk about is THEMSELVES. Period. Talk to them about THEIR travels. Say how you envy them, you always wanted to go to Spain or whatever, and have them talk all nigh about the trip, what they liked, who they went with, how they get along with brothers and sisters on the trip, their whole life story. They will think you are the greatest date ever. I guess it helps if you can easily segue from travel, to family, to their studies or job, etc. but just keep the topic on them.

After you have wowed her with your amazing conversation abilities, you can add a few discreet comments about your career, which they might find interesting enough to listen to for a minute or two on the second date. And the message here is the one thing most women really want from a man, and it is not money. It is AMBITION. They don’t want to know the nitty gritty, they don’t want to hear about money, they don’t want to listen to you brag. But they DO want to hear you mention your PLAN. To take on the world. To be hugely successful. They want to hear your passion. They want to see you working super hard to succeed.

So just do these two things and your Reddit Uncle guarantee your next dates will be huge improvements.

And a final PS - no guy is attractive until around 21 or so, so don’t feel bad about what happened in your teens, you are literally just starting your real dating life. Go out and enjoy!!

Crespius66 · 2023-03-02T23:24:45+00:00

You gotta be smart with money, spend it on traveling and getting foreign pussy committed to you instead of waiting for chicks back home to turn into your favorite tradcon wife. I know I'd be traveling and getting to know the world and eating foreign delicacies

Soberskate9696 · 2023-03-03T05:09:03+00:00

I'm borderline fucking homeless and still get my fuckin dicksucked homes

South_Dig_9172 · 2023-03-02T23:43:51+00:00

Damn bro you need to work on yourself. Do you even hear yourself? Ima study a degree that will get me money so I can get pussy. Go join a frat and change yourself or something lmao

2023-03-02T22:12:38+00:00

It’s not the most important thing but it is important

DosesWithMimosas69 · 2023-03-02T22:33:56+00:00

Put yourself in the position to meet women naturally through hobbies or every day activities.

hiktaka · 2023-03-02T23:45:46+00:00

Your overall attractiveness is a spider-web chart. Being broke is unattractive in and of itself, but you don't need to be millionaire to be attractive.

Probably now your weakest aspect on your radar chart is money, hence you feel that way. Improving your weakest aspect even by a little notch will gain the easiest result in terms of sexual attractiveness.

cjsgamer · 2023-03-03T08:58:22+00:00

Money makes your life easier for yourself but imo it’s a very small part of being successful with women contradictory to what some men believe.

Sure might not land a few gold diggers, but I’ve been very successful with women while actually being homeless, I’ve witnessed other homeless men living in their car being successful with women my entire life, game/social skills/ and looks are much more important.

The way you describe dates is very blue pilled bro. Like you’re dating the traditional societal way, if you learn more game, you can be getting laid the first date, because the whole point is creating sexual attraction and acting on it, who cares if you’re boring or whatever in your life and definitely who cares about where the women your dating have traveled to and done. I know how you feel because I’ve been there to at a time in my life trying to impress women, but if you truly bring a dominant and chill energy to the table and do not budge, they will be trying to impress you and you need to direct the conversation that way. All that banter from dates is meaningless really, you can fuck chicks the same hour you meet them if you want, like you said “the attraction seems to wear off quickly” so you need to make things happen quickly and confidently or the next orbiter will come pipe her down that same night.

I will say though having your own place even if it’s the crappiest apartment around is really the main thing you need. Other than that women don’t need to know how much or how little dough you have in general.

Overall bro, your main problem seems to be a fear of getting sexual with women due to insecurity of them being more experienced or better than you even though their pussy probably stank anyways, therefore you can’t escalate properly. You got to remember women can sniff out insecurity like it’s nothing and it’s a turn off for them. So keep it simple and sexual and move on to the next until you start to get it down to an art.

Kevlar__Soul · 2023-03-03T14:50:56+00:00

First get a job and get your own place or share an apartment with a friend. Plenty of people have jobs during school you will be fine. If your waiting tables try to get a job at a high end place.

Money isn’t the issue as it’s never about the money it what it buys status and adventure. You can have both with minimum money and girls realize most guys are broke while in school. So you have to be smart. You can be well dressed on a budget (dappered.com), you can make friends with the bartender (status and social proof at the cost of $5 tip per beer). You can have good story without traveling. Best friend was a natural and won’t fly but he always has a fun story.

If I had to guess Money isn’t the problem.

Sounds like you need some good stories to tell. You can get the date, but they lose attraction quickly. Either your coming off needy or boring. This is a good thing because they can be easily fixed. Read a few pickup books or watch their seminars on YouTube to get some ideas.

Don’t take about your job because women doing want to talk about computers. When asked say your passionate about your career but leave it at that unless she asks. You best strategy is to let her do the talking and just have some interesting questions to ask. Trick is to not just agree with everything she says or come off like your sucking up to her. The frame should be your trying to determine if she is a good fit for you.

Make sure you have some interesting stories to tell. If you have a make a few up or use someone else’s story as your own do it. Stories should have social proof, pre selection and show a sense of humor. As a programmer you should be good at analysis. After you tell a story see how she reacts. Is she leaning in and smiling, laughing and asking follow up questions or is does she look like she is forcing a smile and doesn’t seem interested. Find the stories that work and start using only them on your dates. Baring that go on a few adventures so you actually have a few good stories. Get a group of guys to go on a road trip. Take a train across the country. Girls don’t want a boring man so you need to not be boring. Fully plan the date out yourself. No where do you want to go bs.

Even better make your date something adventurous. Indoor rock climbing, go cart racing are great dates but anything fun that in your area that you enjoy. Most guys just take a girl to dinner or have coffee so the girl will get a great domaine hit. What ever you decide make sure you do it on your own a few times so you come off as being competent. Also have a backup plan if she isn’t able or is scared to try either like bowling or miniature golf. Book of pook has a good chapter on this you can listen to for free on YouTube.

I always treat this as even if you don’t get laid at least you got to do something fun. Then if your having fun it’s dinner and transition to a place for a couple drinks and then back to her place. Have a reason why you can’t go to yours that isn’t I live with my parents. You always want to hear her say something to the effect “you know we’re not sleeping together tonight right”. If she does that means she is thinking about sex your response should be something to the effect of “I don’t put out on the first date I have a reputation to protect (jokingly) or slow down I am just here to have fun (jokingly). If she says at any point it’s in the bag just finish what your doing and take her home. Just in case your autistic that doesn’t include when in the act. She says no at any point stop immediately.

Mystery has a couple seminars on youtube that can give you a few good ideas. I wouldn’t use them word for word as nothing worse then telling a story you claim as yours that’s she’s already heard before.

revente · 2023-03-03T02:51:13+00:00

If you’re getting a decent amount of dates but not getting laid, then your problem isn’t money but logistics and escalation.

That being said money obviously can help you with logistics. Eg. -renting an apartament near some nice date spot.

Kooky_Performance116 · 2023-03-03T17:14:44+00:00

Think what you want about Andrew tate but he did say something that made real sense. “A dork with money is still a dork”.

Money matters in life and it matters if you have ambitions and things you want to do that you need money for. Whatever that may be. Your lack of money isn’t the reason you aren’t getting laid. Especially since I imagine you’re dating girls around your age. They would sleep with a dude with 100 face tattoos on pills over a guy with 1 mill in the bank. It generally isn’t about “money” for girls that age.

Splitting the bill with a women is a power move and sets the tone in a relationship or casual dating. That being said you should always pay for the first date. Cause it doesn’t come off as broke more then it comes off as cheap. There’s a difference. The latter will dry up most women.

You worked on your outter self but now you gotta work on your inner self and your game with women. At your age I was getting laid left and right and was low a paid construction worker. I read a couple of game books and even though a lot of it is fluff some things i picked up helped me a lot.

Good luck

sharpefutures · 2023-03-03T02:50:47+00:00

Not as much as you think. After about 100k a year the returns are very diminishing, and can even work against you once you pass 250k/yr unless you’re quiet about your money, and have control of your time.

2023-03-03T05:12:27+00:00

Money literally means nothing. If you can't pull before money you won't pull after, unless you're getting used. It's ALL about game.

HungHammer89 · 2023-03-03T17:11:11+00:00

It means everything, don’t let anyone tell you anything else. I wish people had told me this when I was 18 years old.

Money= power. The more money you have, the less fucks you can give.

I think they said 70% of all fights in marriages have to do with money. If you have money, girls will flock to you. Hell, your own wife will treat you better. It doesn’t matter if you have your soulmate. You have to provide, or else you’re not doing the basics.

The more $ you have (of course, spend it wisely!), the better you look, the more experiences you can take her on.

Ill_mumble_that · 2023-03-03T01:13:09+00:00

With money you can buy a girl.

What do I mean?

There are A LOT of young 18+ women out there that will suck your dick biweekly, or more, if you pay their rent.

If you're making 7 figures a year then 1500 a month for an average 1 bedroom apartment is nothing. It's a small price to pay for consistent dick sucking from a hot young woman.

You can be overweight. You can be somewhat ugly. Just shower and smell good, they won't care.

Itchy_Cartographer78 · 2023-03-02T23:24:35+00:00

Stick with the comp sci, the better you get at it the more you’ll enjoy it. Source, me

red_blood_cells · 2023-03-03T00:24:58+00:00

if you use it well to make yourself attractive and interesting like the top comment said, its awesome. if you just get happy by seeing a large number in your bank account, or lead with your wallet, it sucks

bobdealin · 2023-03-03T13:50:18+00:00

It's not about money. It's about the disparity she perceives between you and her. She'll only fuck up, not down. Go to a third world country and there's an instant disparity between you and her.

Vaeloth322 · 2023-03-03T15:33:40+00:00

How much spare time do you have if you stopped going after women for a year? If you are JUST a student and don't have a job, spend your spare time learning how to talk in a commission based sales job. And i don't mean something like "retail sales rep" that gives you $5 for every pair of shoes you sell or something. I mean something that the on track earnings of your position is 2-3X your base pay. You'll have hard pressure to succeed, AND you'll make money.

I don't know where you live, but sales is one of the best skills you can create. If you can sell a car, you can sell yourself. Half of sales is manipulation of the other persons subconscious.

I do also agree with everyone else: stop focusing on women so much. you are 21. You're fighting dating girls who are getting flown out to party on yachts. Focus on making yourself the best version of you for a few years.

I don't post here often, but i THINK this post can be summed up with
"Read sidebar, and do sales"

Acrobatic_Duck9410 · 2023-03-03T18:43:38+00:00

I can relate your story. There was a point in my life when I was going for dates with 3 different girls per week. They seemed to be attracted at first because of my appearance, and then got really excited because of my personality (I'm charming and funny), then I always made sure that I took them to my apartment. This is when things changed. I managed to get into the pants of some of them, but the majority of them walked away when the kissing started. They would initiate another round of kisses after a few minutes and something just stroke their minds so they left.

The reason is I gave them a false sense that I was a genuine guy who was looking for a relationship. After charming them, they were disappointed to see that all I wanted was sex. The bulk majority of girls who have taken plethora of dicks just want to find love for once in their miserable existence.

I guess my point here is there is nothing wrong with your game. If you could manage to pull over 15 women for dates and then to your home, then that means you're almost a Top G now. The only problem is you probably gave them hope for a long term relationship with you and were disappointed to discover that you ain't a beta bitch boy who settles for used sluts and just want to fuck them like everyone has done to them.

Try not to charm them that much. Give hints that you don't want something serious. Stay strong Top G✌️

magaDEO1 · 2023-03-04T07:26:34+00:00

I am 20 years old and I managed to make a lot of money after graduating from high school and I am well off, and I must agree, it does help. Ever since, I have experienced uncomfortable situations that gave me lessons to learn and I think overall making money or pursuing money is what every man should do. No, money is not everything, but it is a key for countless doors. It is with money I could travel (I have never traveled before just like you), help my parents and family and find new hobbies. I don't have enough for super cars or mega yachts and private jets, but I will eventually and then money becomes an even bigger blessing. I have to admit, that spending money on materialistic things such as clothing and jewellery were not fulfilling at all, but at least it lifted some worries.

MattyAnon · 2023-03-04T22:37:57+00:00

Also, most of the girls I've been on dates have traveled a lot and I didn't have that opportunity as a kid, so I come off as boring in comparison. As a result, most of the girls I've only seen them once or twice. They seem very interested at first (I assume because of my appearance) and I have no problems getting dates, but attraction seems to wear off quickly.

Girls will, to a certain extent, fake initial interest in a guy if they are somewhat attracted. They fake being completely sold to keep the guy around, then stop faking and leave when they realise the attraction isn't fully there. There have been scientific studies proving that women do this.

The problem is that it's confusing as fuck to men who don't know that this is happening, they think they did something wrong whereas the reality is she was never fully sold to start with.

2> money won't make you attractive

it won't, but chasing your dreams and being successful will

abraaoneves · 2023-03-06T23:13:18+00:00

Man. My history. I didn’t get laid until 21 years old and it was very frustrating because it was with a older woman and it wasn’t so natural. At that time I didn’t have money or place, but I use to have a good conversation even though I never had traveled yet. To get woman to want to get laid is just a matter of them to want to do, you should try girls that are not so high graded first, like a 5 or 6, in fact, you can fall in love with some of them, but I don’t recommend you to do so if you feel it.

One year after my first time I met with the woman that’s currently my wife. She’s a normal looking woman but she really likes me. I used to get laid with women that I’ve badly knew and it is way different when you do it with a girlfriend. She’s a exception, off course, since she doesn’t care about money stuff (this kind of woman still exist) but If I didn’t meet her, I would keep focusing in my degree and my stuff, the important thing is to have your life fulfilled with the stuff you like, get laid with a nice girl who likes you just happen when you less expect, like it happened to me.

Tigerexx · 2023-03-10T10:29:42+00:00

Is money that important?? Maybe not. Does it help ? Definitely.

BUT

Keep this in mind, it will not make women fall for you. Think about all the rich f*ckers out there. Think about their relationships with women. How good do you think those are? Maybe they attract women that only want money. Look at the richest people on earth. They are not pussy magnets. They got billions of dollars but that does not compensate for communication skills. Most of them might even be blue pilled as fck.

Sure, go become a master of something. Become exceptional at computer Science. But do it for yourself. Not for the money that you think will attract women. There are guys at 30 years old that are successful, they got money. However, although they might even be red pilled and know all the threory, they have no experience talking to girls. They just focused on "imporving themselves".

Do it! Improve yourself! But don't forget that talking to girls is also a thing to be improved !

Soybeanrice · 2023-03-02T22:34:00+00:00

Also, most of the girls I've been on dates have traveled a lot and I didn't have that opportunity as a kid, so I come off as boring in comparison

Mod comment hit the nail on the head but understand that travelling is not a personality. Social media would say otherwise, but its not.

As for the degree, 4 years is a short amount of time in the grand scale of things. If youre already past your gen eds, dont stop. There is a point where you have to realize that youre committed and you have to finish. Maybe youre there, maybe youre not. I would not recommend dropping out. Could drop the math/double major though. Kinda pointless. We all do shit we dont want to do, but know its better for us in the end. Just do it.

SleepyPotential · 2023-03-03T04:58:24+00:00

Money is freedom.

… the freedom you can use to build your character and stories, and women love a good story teller.

Looks get you 90% of the way there. The last 10% is the hardest, and that is money

2023-03-02T21:52:49+00:00

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BlocknGhost · 2023-03-03T04:37:27+00:00

Money in and of itself won’t make you attractive, but rather exercising the freedom that comes with it.

filli1aj · 2023-03-03T06:26:45+00:00

If I could give my 21 year old self advice it would be to not get involved in the heavy booze and booger sugar. If you start learning how to make money at 21 you will slingshot yourself forward. At 25 you would be ahead of the curve.

ClearCoatFinisher · 2023-03-03T07:10:56+00:00

I've been on dates have traveled a lot and I didn't have that opportunity as a kid, so I come off as boring in comparison.

You come off boring because of your belief systems. The foundation of who you are is what you believe about yourself. I see plenty of rich simps. Boring guys shredded and jacked to the tits in the gym. Yes for life as a man you do need an income and success. But the core of who you are is what you think of yourself and your personality. If you think you are a stone cold loser because whatever trauma you carry from childhood then the external things will never fix that core issue.

And when you are talking of a career of your future it's important to be sensitive to what you do and don't like. Money is important and work is work. But if you are working in something that you find so uninteresting that you feel repulsed by it then what kind of life will that be? It's a balance of working in something you like or find meaningful and money. You need some affinity or interest into what you are doing.

Women shouldn't be the main focus. Just jack off. It becomes a recursive problem when you are desperate for pussy. It makes you a simp and now you are even more likely to not have success with women. You are trying to justify yourself to a woman so she tells you you are good enough to get it. For any kind of relationship the dynamic needs to the opposite. Even just a plate type of situation women find desperation and acceptance seeking repulsive.

soapyaaf · 2023-03-03T10:01:26+00:00

For me at least, I can say...I'd rather have 3 million dollars than not have it.

TutiFrutiTuti · 2023-03-03T13:54:48+00:00

Money helps definitely. But if you've got game or looks or status, you can be DEAD BROKE slaying poon. I'm talking fucking in the back of a shitbox car or in some bushes. Money will make it easier if you haven't perfected other things. But we all know some bum ass mfs who get girls just fine. I've known scummy dead-end drug dealers who can get girls to buy them stuff. This is why I hate all these nerds on youtube like fresh and fit talking about being a high value man to get women. You don't need a cent to your name if you've got game.

RhinoSmuggler · 2023-03-04T11:58:30+00:00

If you want to be successful with women, seek advice from people who are successful with women. You won't get good advice from a community full of people just like you.

pushy_anomaly · 2023-03-06T21:40:56+00:00

It doesn't. The fact that this post has even one upvote is evidence that this sub is dead and has been flooded with losers who don't understand game.

Opposite-Bullfrog-57 · 2023-03-08T11:57:26+00:00

In my country, just pay.

You get the best pussy and pretty much fair deals.

That's it. No marriage. You can try to make her like you. But in the end, all that matters is whether you get sex, whether you knock her up, how pretty and smart she is, and how cost-effective it is.

Forget romance. All those are there to confuse me.

I agree with redpiller. It's how to make women like you. The problem is you still want women to like you, and there's a lot of unknown.

You should think about how much money I wasted on women that don't choose me and how cost-effective women add value to me.

Making it transactional will make sure you spend little on women that don't choose you. Also you get what you pay for women that do choose you.

There are not child support laws in my country either. Prostitution is legal. So things can be the pretty explicit and front front.

TheTrueBurgerKing · 2023-03-16T00:51:19+00:00

Money wont make it easier, it makes life easier but having money doesnt make women jump on you at 1st sight. In fact if your aware of yourself an your worth money makes it another factor as in do i want to risk my assests an income fir this person, what value does she add to me.

Never invest in something that has no ROI or invests in you back golden rule is you an your life are number 1 a woman is only a side part its not who or what you are or why you exist. Ihave never met a woman who earns more than me nor ever met a woman who has paid for a mans coffee let alone a meal, basically their all bums.

Confident-Cupcake164 · 2023-03-17T06:31:28+00:00

Depends.

In my country, money makes things extremely easy. Prostitution is legal. There is no feminists. Most women and men are poor. That means women cannot make money other way, they can't marry rich men either because most men are poor.

So?

If you're rich?

In my country?

Offer money, bam.

Very easy it's boring. What I am trying to do is to find a beautiful young woman that's also smart to have children with. I have one, but that one is so possessive she is scared of another sugar baby.

Pretend-Sale8985 · 2023-04-02T20:02:22+00:00

Working out for years doesn't mean anything. Unless you've built a physique that is at least on the level of a superhero (Chris Evans or Henry Cavill), you don't really have the physique looksmax in dating.

Men who have that physique are less than 1% of men on dating apps and in bars and clubs. And yes it is possible to have trained for 10 years and still be far away from that look and it's not due to genetics but mistakes in your training. I got more results in 2 months of efficient bodybuilding than in years of strength training. People can actually telll that I lift now. And it was all done by following Basement Bodybuilding's advice.

Title	How much easier does money make it?
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