Pickup Artists are psychopathic.

cholomite · 2018-07-29T16:27:57+00:00

A bird outside my window fluffed his chest up to look bigger for a female bird he wanted to impress.

Fucking psychopath I don't want that scary ass bird around me anymore now.

PerplexingPegasus_ · 2018-07-29T04:15:07+00:00

Is this some type of social experiment to illustrate a shit post???

Edit: /u/redpillschool I’ll tip my fedora to you, that was genius.

nietzschethegreat · 2018-07-29T05:58:24+00:00

For those that didn't know, this is a monologue by Jordan Peterson on pick-up artists.

Anyways, I thought this sub was supposed to bolster good quality content, not turn it into a fucking dumpster fire, especially one from the mods.

Peterson's right. Forget all of your ridiculous notions about politics and "conserva-cuck" nonsense.

Pick-up artists are inherently psychopathic. And the fact that the creator of this sub is upset about this is absolutely inane, and really goes to show where it's headed. If he knew anything about men and sexual strategy, he'd know that pick-up artistry doesn't actually fall in line, at all, with the "Red Pill."

"Pick-up artists" and teachers of "pick-up" use routines, verbal tricks, and superficial elements with the "veneer of sophistication" to trick women into thinking they are something they are not. Low status men who don't have the ability nor the potential to become what they could be, so they have to resort to displaying all the behaviors that a high status man naturally, outwardly manifests without being the high status man themselves.

The "Red Pill" isn't about low status men trying to "pick up" women or manipulating them subconsciously (from both frames of reference, that is) into liking them. It's about becoming a truly high status man who naturally attracts women who lives for his own values and needs, regardless of others' opinions.

Pick-up artists are psychopathic. If you don't understand by now, you won't ever get it. Pick-up artistry manifests itself out of a low-line narcissism and inferiority complex, in which the men unconsciously try to manipulate women into appreciating them so their torn egos can be repaired (even if they disguise it to themselves as a method of attracting women).

All this hate on Jordan Peterson is making me doubt that any of the mods or even "endorsed contributors" have any sense or understanding of anything. Ridiculous.

TRPKiddo · 2018-07-29T04:11:58+00:00

OK, boys. It’s official. They’ve got him.

Stranger, state your ransom price. I’ll pass a hat around.

ThatKidinAfrica · 2018-07-29T05:09:41+00:00

He's mocking the JP post, Guys.

JonathanMekerset · 2018-07-29T03:34:44+00:00

what the fuck bro

SelfTaughtPiano · 2018-07-29T04:11:42+00:00

I personally like JP and I'm not going to disown or excommunicate him based on one statement said millions of years ago that offends some idea "I keep close to my heart". Out of some bizarre loyalty.

To do that would be behaving like a leftist. There is parts of his ideaset, like any other, that isn't perfectly useful. Even stupid. I can discard that. But then Jordan Peterson also addresses unique issues affecting me that TRP hasn't even mentioned. Why is that a bad thing? It serves me. It works for me. It is a functional, advantageous set of solutions to present, personal problems. And that surely is true for others, not just me. I just don't get what TRP's problem is with that...

whuttupfoo · 2018-07-29T04:41:05+00:00

All you dumbasses this is a quote from Jordan B Peterson.

TheTrenTrannyTrain · 2018-07-29T07:43:08+00:00

Mod is intentionally trolling us? This sounds like what any RP haters would say to justify staying BP.

6ThornmailRammus · 2018-07-29T04:36:01+00:00

I think this is a social experiment related to the JP post (which was quite good, JP spergs didn't think so)

smokebowlington · 2018-07-29T13:33:35+00:00

This is actually hilarious. Very funny!

RPInjectionToTheVein · 2018-07-29T14:14:32+00:00

JP is the classic example of applying BP methods to deal with societal problems problems.

You're not going to make trannies stop being retarded by having a discourse with them. Apologia won't get you far when talking to feminists that are foaming at the mouth.

Some of what he says may be very valuable but a lot of his ideas are hampered by excessive moralizing imo.

SensualSeduction01 · 2018-07-29T04:00:51+00:00

Lol

-jp

Kobinks · 2018-07-29T14:08:19+00:00

Witch hunt? Satire? Or the most profound philosophical revaltion of the modern world!

★★★★★ The New York Timez

ThrowTheTRP · 2018-07-29T18:14:17+00:00

I love what you've done here, it's good to know the EC's and Mods have credible standings since I couldn't not believe this was trolling.

Claiming PUA's are psychopaths is retarded. I respect JP to some extent, yes. But he isn't gonna get my agreement on everything, that's called individual thinking and not a cult like following, and is exactly what the EC's are trying to get people to understand.

redpillskeptic · 2018-07-29T04:41:16+00:00

I kinda suspect you're trolling, brother.....

> psychopathic goal in some ways because really the individual doesn't matter

Look up what that word means. Manipulative/persuasive behavior =/= psychopathy

Incorrect, she "matters". Since generally speaking you're trying to have some quality time with her later. You're making value judgements about whether or not she has the characteristics of a girl you'd sleep with (i.e these characteristics generally go beyond the purely physical but also encompass character). However you're not limiting you options to her per se (if one is practicing spinning plates).

> and what they're trying to do is to acquire the veneer of sophistication and that's psychopathic

Wait what? How? So portraying yourself favorably is psychopathic? Then literally every one is a psychopath. Heck, Makeup is psychopathic (using your flawed definition) because she's manipulating her face using makeup in order to appear more attractive.

>what are they doing they're using language instrumentally they have a goal in mind and they know that the goal is right insofar as they're pursuing the goal and then they're willing to say any thing to obtain that goal...

You do realize that makes everyone from mom's trying to convince their children to eat broccoli to religious missionaries, a psychopath.

JonathanMekerset · 2018-07-29T03:37:43+00:00

This formatting is ass, I could barely read this. It just sounds like rambling nonsense...

You fucking with us RPS?

Noblefiz · 2018-07-29T04:36:44+00:00

RPS is way too drunk right now

Poloyatoki · 2018-07-29T12:39:30+00:00

The means to the end is justified. Unless who have experienced the horror and desolation of that which a female with NPD, BPD or even HPD can do to you then you will see that manipulating women is not bad at all. Do you think she loves you? Do you think she cares about you? She loves what you are, she loves what you can do for her. TRP however is not PUA here we create real value, here we let men maketh men out of themselves.

If a Red pill man games a women, takes her out, fills here stomach with nice food and gives her amazing alpha dick then she won't complain.

JinxsLover · 2018-07-29T15:19:55+00:00

Are you okay?

GAndGMethod · 2018-07-29T03:36:33+00:00

I disagree. Pick up hasn’t been about lines and peacocking since mid 2000s. It’s all about inner game and meditation and “energy” now. It’s quite sad really. It’s the reason nobody gets good at game anymore.

Idk how old you are, but what you think pick up is, is not what it is now. Seriously no pua coaches even share or teach outer game/lines any more. The only one that did was mystery, and again that was in the mid 2000s.

Also there is no evolutionary downsides to being a psychopath. Only upsides. They are the most successful people and slay women non stop.

cyborg_type_darkness · 2018-07-29T05:28:46+00:00

You're right. Pickup wants you to be something you're not so that you can get laid. It's all to get female validation and some pussy.

ColdbloodedEdward · 2018-07-29T04:34:27+00:00

why do you think psychopaths function well in society? i'm hoping that this isn't news to you folk

ananyo007 · 2018-07-29T04:35:27+00:00

I swear I read it in his voice.

oneorigin · 2018-07-29T04:59:21+00:00

because really the individual doesn't matter

Read something on AWALT.

CocaineOnYourClit · 2018-07-29T11:50:23+00:00

Genius IQ tier 4d chess mocking post that will go over everyone's heads

Mr-Ed209 · 2018-07-29T11:59:09+00:00

Every means to an end is psychopathic. I feel like anyone could become psychopathic given the correct motivation in life. It's even applauded. If you were to have an idea for even a small business and were to recruit lower level employees to do the baseline work - your relationship with those employees is psychopathic. You'll exploit the value of their labour and dine off the fruits of it. Fuck you might even profit more than 20x the value of which you provide to them. But it's justifiable under the means of market competition. You'll cease to care for their individual wants and needs and instead be obsessed with the bottom line of how much profit they're turning in. People justify their lack of empathy in different ways, maybe they create a narrative in their mind that the lower employees are lazy or you're doing them a favour through employing them on questionable salaries and work hours. The circumstance of you having a motivating factor which outstrips your empathy for these individuals is what facillitates psychopathic behaviour.

Same with women and PUA's. Eventually they've all realised the exchange of value taking place in their sexual encounters and created methods to exploit it in their favour. They've realised that a conventional 'courtship' of several dates is counter to their own value and decided to circumvent the process. Leveraging their perceived value upfront to convince women they hold sufficient value to get laid quickly.

It's the double standard Peterson has in his idolisation of business hierarchies and of women in some senses. The ideal solution in both cases is probably somewhere in the middle. If both were to be 'empathetic' psychopaths - enough disregard to personal wellbeing to ensure that the business operates at a profit despite of itself; and that the employees are happy with their deal made to the employer. Likewise with women - you need enough disregard to press ahead and 'get what you want' and not give away your value upfront like a cuckolded friend zone soy boy. However, there is no one to police empathy, in business or in relationships. And people will always settle for whatever they can get. Good Money > my boss giving a shit about me; Good Sex > my partner giving a shit about me

CoolGuyRy099311 · 2018-07-29T14:00:45+00:00

What if you have ASPD and just read red pill for manipulation techniques?

randomperson123321 · 2018-07-29T16:08:35+00:00

Peterson's views are not objective.

Pick up artists (and con artists) do possess antisocial personality traits (sometimes to the point it enters the disorder part of the spectrum). This is true.

What throws Peterson's point of view out of the window is the way he goes based on the aforementioned fact.

In short, he makes a good start and goes down the spiral afterwards.

warwolverinewarrior · 2018-07-29T18:05:06+00:00

Nice try my guy. Ever see Costumer service or a waitress be nice to you? Ever hear a term called manipulation?

ECoast_Man · 2018-07-29T18:15:20+00:00

it's like a whole horde of men talking about how to deceive and manipulate women

Obviously JP ever never been around a mamosa fueled Sunday morning brunch with gals still in their Saturday night outfits and makeup still caked on. Par for the course for the broads when they go out.

ahab_dies · 2018-07-30T01:45:40+00:00

I've had PUA friends and it seems to work well for them but it never appealed to me. I don't want to live life applying formulas socially like that. Of course I've learned good things from TRP but I prefer to have spontaneous and natural interactions with people rather than practice and rehearse everything. Ultimately it seems like a very boring and repetitive way to engage with the world. The primary outcome for all of PUA seems to be getting an ego boost at the expense of genuine interactions with the world. OK if that's your thing but I'd rather run the risk of higher fail rates but know I'm just being my own person and figuring things out for myself.

paulallens · 2018-07-30T09:32:39+00:00

It's interesting how people even being on the side of individualism and thinking for yourself, as people we tend to instinctively pledge ourselves in a tribe. Even for myself reading any sort of criticism to intellectuals I admire I get a gut reaction of instantly siding with said intellectual. Jordan Peterson has a lot of good ideas and I think is an important figure especially in an age of emasculated men. However I think he is also wrong about God and says ignorant shit sometimes. Even a bad musician can play a few good notes.

SgtBrutalisk · 2018-07-30T10:13:52+00:00

PUA works with travel and moderate capability of interacting with women; otherwise cruel rumors destroy any approach capacity.

DeeplyDisturbed1 · 2018-07-30T12:24:44+00:00

My brain is going into high alert on this post. I have seen this with 3-4 other major subs on Reddit going back years. It starts with mods allowing all sorts of nonsense on the sub - the more insane the better - but the mods would know how to curate to keep the core audience and grow it. Drama attracts attention.

Then there is always that one post - perhaps this is that post - in which a mod realizes that an alternate narrative exists that is perhaps more reasonable and influential. What's a mod to do? Let the sub shift to a more enlightened place? Lose subscribers? Lose control of the narrative? Let the light shine in and raise the level of discourse out of the gutter?

Reminds me of the story of the Tower of Babel. Can't let the masses learn and grow and work together. That is a threat. And we all know how threats are dealt with on Reddit.

womans_algorithm · 2018-07-30T13:53:08+00:00

What the fuck is the point of this post? If anyone else would copy pasted JP's speech and made it a TRP post, it would be removed for low quality content.

pras · 2018-08-03T15:32:21+00:00

Most of their techniques don't work anyway. The only time it works is when the woman is horny and she allows herself to be picked up. They confuse this with positive feedback.

zyqkvx · 2018-07-29T03:44:33+00:00

Not even. Navigating through social structures is a lot like a running business or mastering anything else. This should not be conflated with manipulation or bad intent. After gaining competency one can run it like a charity or like a casino or anywhere in between.

Every once in awhile I'll tell a beta he needs to work out till he gets a basic masculine body. It clicks with some. Of course most 'disagree'. They want to be loved for their quality philosophies and thoughts. They think having basic attractiveness is a form of desperation and being disingenuous. To think no game is the most natural game is delusional.

sadomasochrist · 2018-07-29T13:03:57+00:00

Nice post, bucko.

TRPMaverick · 2018-07-29T05:25:04+00:00

Did you never take an English class in middle school where the teacher took point off for run on sentences? This might be the shittiest shitpost I've seen on TRP since I found it....

michasv · 2018-07-29T09:05:22+00:00

well, you have point but how is that different than what females do?

most of the game that i know i learned from females.

their outfits aren't peackock? their lies about them being a virgin angels isn't lying?

even this LTR shit for sex is a deal basically. you can say that just how pick up artists try to take advantage of woman for sex, woman try to get advantage of men for their LTR goals they too have a goal and this goal is to secure the highest SMV male and make him purpose to her as soon as possible so she won't hit the wall.

so basically fuck that shit bro

JcHgvr · 2018-07-29T13:09:04+00:00

Did you stroke out while typing that ? The further I read the more incoherent your rambling gets.

JPduprat · 2018-07-30T11:37:28+00:00

Ironic shitposting still is shitposting

trp_throwaway_88 · 2018-07-29T04:28:14+00:00

Shit nigga you really expect me to read

ALL DAT SHIT

by u

Listen up faggot, My name is John, and I hate you, All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their days looking at stupid-ass modposts, You are everything wrong with the world, Honestly, have any of you even gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess its fun making fun of people because of your insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level, This is even worse than jacking off to RooshV posts on ROK.

Dont be an omega bro. Just hit me with your best shot. Im pretty much Chad. I was captian of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than getting frozen out like youre playin freeze tag with the HB6s I fucked in the ass in the back alley? I also get straight As, and I have ten bangin hot plates (Two of them just blew me; shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill themselves. Thx 4 reading my blog betas.

redpillschool · 2018-07-29T03:41:25+00:00

Somebody’s account get jacked by meatoo?

-thro · 2018-07-29T10:33:58+00:00

Hacked account? Disappointed either way.

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Pickup Artists are psychopathic.

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Title	Pickup Artists are psychopathic.
Author	redpillschool
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Comments	140
Date	July 29, 2018 3:27 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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