Use less words.

NightwingTRP · 2016-01-23T13:19:33+00:00

I'd call this an oversimplification.

As a general approach I'd say less words when pushing. When putting the pressure on her. When leaving her to prove herself to you.

More words when you're pulling. When you're asserting your frame over the social interaction. When you're making a dominant move without making that dominant move physically.

Push and pull gents. Balance. Use the right tool for the job.

Don't elaborate on thoughts and esp not feelings. Most chicks can't understand if you elaborate on thoughts and it leaves them feeling uncomfortable and frightened. Whereas elaborating on feelings just makes you look weak and/or insecure. If you want examples of the latter, head on over to the SRSMen sub to see exactly how that turns out. (Warning, serious cringefest!)

In addition, elaboration early on is a bad idea. Mystery is your friend. Do things they don't understand and they'll be so curious to figure out what the hell is going on that they'll chase you anywhere. Stay mysterious and let her come to you.

pourniquet · 2016-01-23T14:23:16+00:00

fewer words. You cannot use less words.

WillyWonka321 · 2016-01-23T14:16:05+00:00

16 commandments of poon number V. Adhere to the golden ratio

Give your woman 2/3 of everything she gives you. For every three calls or texts, give her two back. Three declarations of love earn two in return. Three gifts; two nights out. Give her two displays of affection and stop until she has answered with three more. When she speaks, you reply with fewer words. When she emotes, you emote less. The idea behind the golden ratio is twofold — it establishes your greater value by making her chase you, and it demonstrates that you have the self-restraint to avoid getting swept up in her personal dramas. Refraining from reciprocating everything she does for you in equal measure instills in her the proper attitude of belief in your higher status. In her deepest loins it is what she truly wants.

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-01-23T16:42:12+00:00

I realized that once I started elaborating on my thoughts without their questioning, they lost interest.

Betas talk about themselves.

Alphas use words to Game their world so every word has a purpose.

Use words efficiently but not sparingly.

Good Game can be verbose if it's working...

DarkSayed · 2016-01-23T16:59:34+00:00

Use gooder grammar.

But I agree with the general idea: fewer words are generally preferable.

G_M_P · 2016-01-23T13:00:25+00:00

Good thought here. Maybe it adds to the RP man's mystique and adds to her curiosity about him.

BPtoRP · 2016-01-23T13:43:37+00:00

It's not as easy as it looks, so here's the trick that worked for me: Talk slower. If you focus on talking slower, your brain won't just ramble on forever, it'll be forced to summarize more, and it'll have more time to do so than you think.

SexistFlyingPig · 2016-01-23T15:05:13+00:00

"You had me at 'hello'".

She's made her decision based on looks and feels. Words can just fuck that up.

refusewool · 2016-01-23T15:48:17+00:00

Effective talking is making your point in the least amount of words possible.

throwawaycomedian95 · 2016-01-24T14:33:37+00:00

Law 4: Always Say Less than Necessary

There are times when it is unwise to be silent. Silence can arouse suspicion and even insecurity, especially in your superiors; a vague or ambiguous comment can open you up to interpretations you had not bargained for. Silence and saying less than necessary must be practiced with caution, then, and in the right situations. Let us take a look at 6 ways to exert more power by practicing listening.

http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.co.nz/2011/05/law-4-always-say-less-than-necessary.html#sthash.CBcHtNA9.dpuf

tddaygame · 2016-01-23T10:58:42+00:00

Good advice. Don't fall into a trap of not speaking at all or not revealing anything interesting about yourself. If the girl knows nothing about you - you're equally doomed.

The solution seems to be generally mysterious and low invested but occasionally break that using elaborate story that indirectly DHV you. Girls love good stories and if you're the hero in your tale - it's a double win.

LeeHarveyOswole · 2016-01-23T11:36:42+00:00

I've always had this problem. I've loved writing since I was a kid so I kind of grew up writing love letters and shit when I thought that was the thing to do. Even now I like the idea of it in an artistic way or whatever even though I know it's a terrible idea for actually interacting with women.

I made the mistake recently (even after three years of TRP) of writing a drunk and very long and mostly negative Facebook message to a girl I had been on a few dates with. It wasn't BP stuff about us or about her, but sort of general rambling about life and kids and my job so I thought it would be alright. It wasn't. I woke up to see that she had read it and it was very awkward and I never heard from her again.

She knows when you're investing high, even if you don't.

sir_wankalot_here · 2016-01-23T11:38:37+00:00

Do what I say, not what I do. I fall into the same trap as you all the time.

I realized that once I started elaborating on my thoughts without their questioning, they lost interest

The problem is you are probably being specific, once that happens they get bored. Watch how a good politician or lawyer talks. They always use vague statements that can be interpreted multiple ways.

textualintercourse · 2016-01-23T22:57:42+00:00

I talk alot and it works for me. It's what is being said that matters, not how little or much is being said.

Being 'stoic' and 'dark triad' / 'brooding'... nope, that's just too fucking boring. I just do what I do, outgoing, taking risks with what I say, etc, it's all about timing, cues, nuance and reading your audience. You can get away with pretty much anything if you know how to play the crowd and read people.

chairmobile · 2016-01-24T04:08:36+00:00

It's fewer words. Fewer, not less.

If it's something you can count, fewer. Else, less.

I put in fewer eggs. I put in less flour.

BJS_1 · 2016-01-23T13:06:47+00:00

Yea it looks like you're trying too hard. We know they don't like that. " it ain't how long you talk to em, but what you put in it" -unknown pimp

OrangeCub · 2016-01-23T18:12:47+00:00

This sounds like a great personal lesson, but I think you're overgeneralizing. Of course, mystery is attractive and girls will fall for that. But I think the mistake you made was the elaborating on your thoughts. If you don't know each other it usually isn't good tactics to go deep, superficiality is your friend here. Just joke around and talk in breadth. Don't fall in the entertainer guy trap though, she must be sufficiently invested in the conversation to pick it up when it goes stale.

tgeda · 2016-01-23T22:20:55+00:00

Are you talking about clubs? I can barely speak in clubs there is just too much damn nose.

When you try and talk in a club it makes you look stupid.

NOTprofessorbooty · 2016-01-23T18:28:48+00:00

"Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." John Wayne He was talking about being a leading man. And since women live in fantasy world, it's been a rock solid option for me over the years.

luckinator · 2016-01-23T14:31:44+00:00

"fewer words" not "less words"

CisWhiteMaelstrom · 2016-01-23T15:13:11+00:00

I like how this is a short post.

drallcom3 · 2016-01-23T14:31:41+00:00

What if she uses very little words already? Using even less would kill the conversation

TrainingTheBrain · 2016-01-23T12:15:43+00:00

I use words like currency. Spend only so much a day and only on shit I really want/need to say.

Quantity vs Quality

EnterPseudonym · 2016-01-23T12:39:34+00:00

It may not be the amount of words, but rather you're becoming less mysterious by framing your thoughts for people to see. Men can appreciate that and women already invested as long as its sporadically done and not all the time. It can be a strong bonding tool between men when your expanding upon a set of ideologies you both hold, and women find it attractive if you're smarter than them and if they've asked for the input.

theimmortalmortal · 2016-01-23T15:08:05+00:00

Investment is more of a time issue. I don't think reducing the amount of words per sentence really saves you that much time while with a girl.

Feliy · 2016-01-23T15:26:57+00:00

RSD Tyler has a great Infield on this, how to pickup girls with less effort.

Title	Use less words.
Author	Krainz
Upvotes	148
Comments	65
Date	January 23, 2016 9:49 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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