r/Tinder is woke.

shrinkshooter · 2019-04-18T04:28:50+00:00

It's an infamous data presentation by okcupid, and pretty much the only one in existence that I've seen for the modern day, showcasing women's hypergamy and unrealistically high standards in graph form. Men's ratings for women follows almost a perfect bell curve, an even normal distribution, while the women claim that literally 80% of men are below average. Their perception of reality is absolutely distorted and with all the enabling and backpatting and constant validation in today's gynocentric social environment and social media, this has only exacerbated it to unbelievably insane proportions.

You have a 32 year old women who rates a 5, 6 on a good day, and she thinks she's a hard 8.5 who deserves a 9 at minimum. I simply cannot respect anyone who will not comes to terms with the reality of how something is, and that applies to this.

Captainbuttman · 2019-04-18T04:21:04+00:00

Im so glad that everyone refuses to let OKcupid scrub that graph from the internet. Every man (young or old, but especially young) needs to look at that graph, stare at it, and then look at it some more.

SilverGryphon · 2019-04-18T04:55:12+00:00

It's not like we needed any graph to know this. Women say one thing and then do another. They tell you looks don't matter and then stop talking to you as soon as they see your face. Not only that, but they get pissed at you when you do the same thing with women you don't find attractive.

Well fuck them, the rise of the RedPill and MGTOW will take care of this bullshit.

n8zerdude · 2019-04-18T07:29:40+00:00

Men's expectations: take good care of your body, reciprocate intimacy, and don't be crazy

Women's expectations: be fit (large muscles and six pack) tall (6'+), make at least $100k a year or more if she makes that much, be an absolute sex God that can bring multiple orgasms within minutes, own a large house, drive a luxury vehicle, have perfect confidence and emotional control -- never show any sign of weakeness, dress in top of the line fashion, have a superb level of charm and wit, have at least a doctorate degree, be extremely talented, professional level, not some hobbyist, in at least one form of art or music, and always be getting better, no matter how awesome you are.

If you're a woman and can't meet a man's expectations, you're not really that great of a person.

If you're a man and can't meet a woman's expectations, you're probably kicking ass, so pay her opinion no mind.

CrnlButtcheeks · 2019-04-18T04:27:30+00:00

For once I reach the top of a graph.

landyvibe · 2019-04-18T05:34:09+00:00

Women are cowards who will never tell you the truth about you and willl NEVER admit her flaws,she will threaten you or worse will hurt you if you point out hers.

Bestoftherest222 · 2019-04-18T07:14:47+00:00

GD isn't amazing how Red Pill Theory comes true in real life statistics. The 80-20 rule in full effect. For the un-indoctrinated.

The theory states that women find only 20% of males attractive, the 80% remainder are just back up's. Ironically this tinder graph also falls inline with history, i forget which DNA study it was but it claimed that only 17% of all males have produced children. Where as 70% of all females have had kids.

GO FIGURE!

beatles-lover · 2019-04-18T11:40:41+00:00

It's funny to read the ridiculous explanations being offered for such overwhelming evidence of female hypergamy.

My favorite is that men are bad at taking and choosing self-pictures. In reality, if it were possible to clean up at online dating through the simple expedient of paying a couple hundred dollars for a professional photo shoot, men would be lining up around the block at photo studios.

People are so hostile to even the slightest suggestion that women are anything but sugar and spice and everything nice.

beatles-lover · 2019-04-18T08:56:30+00:00

When women and white knights are presented with these graphs, their usual response is that (according to the blog post), women nonetheless send and receive messages with men they rated as below average.

Which may very well be true, but the study didn't measure the level of enthusiasm in these women's messages. Were they eager to learn more about the men they were engaging with and to set up meetings? Or was it a more typical low effort conversation with one-word responses only after long delays quickly followed by a fizzle and then ghosting?

Average men who do online dating consistently report that this type of low-effort interaction is extremely common. That it's the rule, not the exception.

What's even worse is that this type of interaction is a metaphor for the relationships women ultimately enter with men who are mediocre in the looks department. Instead of low effort conversations, long response times, and ghosting, you get unenthusiastic sex, infidelity, and ultimately divorce rape.

Global_MGTOW · 2019-04-18T14:38:17+00:00

Women are just picky bitches. I know a girl who thinks Tom Welling, the guy who played Superman in Smallville is below average. You know, the 6 foot+ guy with jet black hair and blue eyes as below average in looks. Meanwhile, this girl is 5 foot fucking 2 and 100 pounds. She's shown me her Tinder though, there's a plethora of thirsty simps at her beck and call. She likes her guys to be at least 6 feet, blonde haired and blue eyed with a great job. She has no problem hooking up with these guys but wonder why none of these guys with plenty of options want to settle down with her and marry her. The wall is approaching soon and I can see she's becoming less and less pickier.

ThrowawayGhostGuy1 · 2019-04-18T07:40:31+00:00

It’s all projection.

FitHerLimbsInFridge · 2019-04-18T18:32:15+00:00

Literally 81% of men are on the wrong side of the mean. I previously thought the 80/20 numbers were just rough estimates/slight exaggerations! Note: the 0% in the "most attractive" category. This means that even the worlds most desirable man is still sub par/not good enough.

LibertyBaron · 2019-04-18T11:54:59+00:00

The SVM of girls is how a textbook financial bubble looks like, is always the same irrational expectations and the feeling that it would last forever (like just before the 30s when they thought the market would be in a perpetual plateau). It never ends well.

imagiantvagina · 2019-04-18T14:19:47+00:00

It's simple why this occurs, and it'd Chad's fault. Chad is a tall handsome successful guy, Chad will fuck anything that moves, especially after a few drinks, and he has almost no standards. Chad is going around sleeping with all the fugly, and fat girls, sometimes both. Girl gets used and discarded, now the girl expects a similar tall handsome man, which she will never get because she is a 4 that's being used by 8's. Eventually she will become horribly bitter and jaded, and that's how Internet dating works. A similar effect can be seen near closing time at the local dance club, good looking desperate guys taking any takers for a quick lay.

Dfghjcvb19 · 2019-04-20T22:51:39+00:00

Women shouldn't be taken seriously. The 19th century view of women was the correct one.

jodymcwhody · 2019-04-18T18:50:14+00:00

So basically, men fuck down,women fuck up. Next.

Aldabruzzo · 2019-04-18T20:24:30+00:00

It really is kind of funny, innit?

If only there were a place that explains the reasons for this disparity in how the sexes rate each other.

carsidious23 · 2019-05-12T02:36:39+00:00

Hey ladies; get a good hard look at this. Start dating closer to your looks. You're all going to hit the wall. Find a cuck before you fuck 60 guys and stretch yourself to oblivion.

MelodyKaren · 2019-04-19T15:35:23+00:00

What is the instant assumption that all that matters is attractiveness

miissbecca · 2019-05-02T14:12:10+00:00

This assumes the population of men on tinder is equal to the population of women. Data can be deceiving my dudes. It’s important to not just accept info because it fits your world view.

Voice_Monkey · 2019-05-09T08:06:02+00:00

Hold on. I’m confused. Women rate least attractive men higher?

ecko009 · 2019-05-09T15:51:09+00:00

I use these apps 99.9% of the time they don't reply if they do 100% of the time they are a single mother 28yrs old and beyond and usually don't have a car or a decent job

SamarthOG · 2019-05-17T10:49:14+00:00

The funniest thing about this is that women are objectively speaking biologically inferior to men. Thats the reason why they need marriage and why they have higher expectations on men as well compared to what we expect from them.

If women could only admit their inferiority at least then they wouldnt be as pathetic as they are now.

[deleted] · 2019-06-26T15:37:30+00:00

Dudes using dating sites are beta so....

Staceysdadisachad · 2019-06-28T19:18:33+00:00

All this proves is that men do a better job at estimating and adhering to how a gaussian curve should look.

onbakeplatinum · 2019-08-12T07:35:06+00:00

I say that men have no standards. They bend over backwards for nagging, terrible women thier whole lives. They actively date fat single mothers with entitlement. They get married despite knowing it's a bad idea just becuase a female, any female, is involved. This is also the gender who is frequently tricked by plastic surgery and transgenders

ShuJV16 · 2019-08-13T21:50:57+00:00

Well... Men aren't exactly known for caring as much about self presentation as women.

BadPoetryByMe · 2019-09-17T07:34:10+00:00

Man ALL woman are the trash of earth!!

Ipride362 · 2019-04-18T11:19:04+00:00

On the left, poor. On the right, rich.

OhAlanh · 2019-04-18T09:19:26+00:00

Is this new version of r/niceguys ?

nannyfl · 2019-04-18T12:51:10+00:00

This chart mean nothing without context. I think the responses to it reveal a lot though.

porfa-no · 2019-04-18T13:42:59+00:00

Or, and hear me out, maybe women have different priorities for online dating than men do and all this evidence suggests is that women are less likely to swipe right on dating apps. I would be more interested if we got a look at gay women swiping on each other. Do they also only swipe right 20% of the time? If so, then it’s not about men’s unattractiveness to women and some broad conspiracy but rather that women are picky with online dating. Unfortunately, it’s impossible to know without any context. I’m also going to list some reasons women might swipe “no” even if they find someone attractive physically. - in the bio there is something that the woman disagrees with (politics, hunting/fishing, religion, etc) - the man looks like he could be scary or dangerous if they were to meet alone - there are explicit references to sex that the woman doesn’t like - they have a mutual friend or know each other or he is a friend’s ex - the man references hook ups or just wanting to date and the woman is looking for the inverse - there is no bio at all

These are just a few reasons and I obviously don’t speak for all women.

I seriously and genuinely agree that we need to promote more body positivity and inclusivity among and for men. The same patriarchal institutions that send messaging to young girls about being small and vulnerable send messages to young men to be big and strong and brutishly handsome. These messages are damaging to all sexes/genders and should be taken seriously. And, I agree, historically men had a harder time finding mates than women did. Just briefly: that men were expected to go to war and women were generally forbidden, patriarchal society requires men to be breadwinners which makes women dependent on a man to have a fruitful and prosperous life (giving women greater incentive to have one, dependable partner), men were more likely to die young (dangerous work, fights of honor, etc).

These are in no way good for men and evidence that the patriarchal system is harmful for everyone.

I think it’s incredibly interesting to see how gender dynamics play out in the real dating world, but you need much more information to understand exactly what is at play here. And furthermore, by lacking context, we just play into the hands of uninformed, frustrated people who thrive on this “half” information to come to conclusions.

Title	r/Tinder is woke.
Author	kevin32
Upvotes	1856
Comments	205
Date	April 18, 2019 4:18 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
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