Alternative to commonly given MRP advice

Westernhagen · 2017-01-31T05:03:17+00:00

Nothing inspires dread in a woman like "if you won't fuck me, I have no better alternative than my hand".

discobolus_ · 2017-01-31T03:15:46+00:00

Why stop at home? I do this when the 19 year old barista won't tell me what time she gets off work.

F1shtowner · 2017-01-31T16:59:54+00:00

In a non RP lurker but this is Ask MRP so here goes:

I often see advice about not acting butthurt but then leaving to instill dread if the wife declines sex. Is the goal to simply not act butthurt or is it to not actually BE butthurt? I ask because the advice about leaving the house in the middle of the night because you have better things to do etc. seems designed to evoke a reaction (dread) in the wife, which indicates to me some level of butthurt.

What kind of non butthurt guy plays these passive aggressive games to scare his wife?

The other advice I see is "If she's not fucking you she's not attracted to you." Keeping attraction and sex up in a long term marriage is damn hard. I honestly believe if every guy here looked like [insert famous alpha here] you may get laid slightly more but there would still be times when the wife did not want sex.

Because being a parent is fucking tiring.

I'm not sure that's a question so much as an observation.

LewisCross · 2017-01-31T14:11:42+00:00

No. Don't do that.

A woman masturbating in front of a man says "I am sexually available and sexually turned on".

A man masturbating in front of a woman says "I'm doing this only because I can't get a woman to do it for me".

A woman masturbating is sexy. A man masturbating is desperate.

ParadoxThatDrivesUs · 2017-01-31T03:53:42+00:00

She's denying you sex because she's not attracted to you. I'm having trouble seeing how your solution would help the situation.

Mecha75 · 2017-01-31T03:17:59+00:00

Seems pretty beta to wank it in front of her because she denied you sex. Or to do it in such a way that you ensure she knows. Now to answer your other question, i cant get up and leave after a refusal. I would do that during my dead bedroom era all the time. So doing that is a no go for me. Instead, i have to say "okay, thats fine" and roll over and go to sleep. Then the next day i spend more time doing whatever i want outside the house. Going to the gym again afterwork, hitting up barnes and noble for another book or series to read, etc. still, the general premise is to remove yourself from her presence is the point. My wife gets it quickly. I rarely go past two nights.

RuleZeroDAD · 2017-01-31T03:01:19+00:00

In the appropriate words of u/whinemoreplease:

You do you.

Archwinger · 2017-01-31T23:15:11+00:00

In the wild, Gronk the big strong manly man took all the women. Bob the whiny loser man jerked off in the bushes. When your wife knows you're jerking it, her subconscious flags you as Bob the loser.

The next time you try to escalate, she's not going think "Oh noes! He doesn't need me! He'll just masturbate! I'd better fuck him!"

She's going to sneer at you with disdain and tell you to go touch yourself, loser.

stonepimpletilists · 2017-01-31T17:57:45+00:00

Why? without knowing what purpose you are doing, and how you can tell if it's working, I'm going with /u/RuleZeroDAD on this one.

Bonus points if you understand what he said.

FireTempered · 2017-02-02T23:48:05+00:00

This is a joke, right?

If not a joke. If you're not retarded. You're probably a 12 year old exhibitionist. Wrong sub.

angels_fan · 2017-02-03T03:10:23+00:00

You kind of have it wrong.

You don't go "find" something to do. You should already have so much shit on your plate that you are actively putting some of that off to spend time with her.

"I have to do a, b, c, d and e today. I guess I could not do b and go fuck my wife and give her some attention. Oh, she's not dtf. Well, looks like b is back on. See ya."

When she says no, fuck it. Back to your regularly scheduled busy day.

The_Litz · 2017-01-31T06:36:56+00:00

It is passive aggressive. And passive aggressive belongs in the bluepill toolbox.

InChargeMan · 2017-01-31T07:47:17+00:00

This is what she sees

JDRoedell · 2017-01-31T14:05:13+00:00

One time after she gave me a hard no, she said something to the effect of, "can't you just take care of yourself sometimes?" I said, "ha, sorry babe, I didn't get married so I could jerk off." This was early in my RP awakening and I think I also vomited something like, "maybe you can start looking for a husband who feels like being committed to you," And I left. The last comment was weak and butt hurt but you get my point.

Absolutely do not fucking do this. Do i occasionally jerk off in longer sex droughts, yes. I NEVER let her know this. EVER.

imnotyourbrahbro · 2017-02-01T03:47:22+00:00

I have done this twice. The first time, she said WTF, then hemmed and hawed, tossed and turned, and then eventually replaced my hand with hers and was OK finish. Second time she said WTF, walked out and slept in other room. Next day, said it was weird and didn't know what to do. If you are going to do it, own it. Looking back, would not recommend.

Triadis3 · 2017-01-31T06:46:59+00:00

The whole reason you leave is to instill some dread.

Maybe you're going to the gym, but maybe you're going out to get some strange.

The problem with her rejecting you in the first place means that she has you on lockdown in her mind. To her, your only source for sex is her, so she can deny you whenever.

Don't go beat it in a corner. This demonstrates to her that she truly does "have you by the balls". Disappear. You have better things to to than furiously masturbating. (You'd better.)( Actually it sounds like you have some reading to do. )

innominating · 2017-01-31T12:13:49+00:00

There was some discussion about this when I first started about 1.5 years ago. I recall the sentiment being that it is fine, not necessarily Alpha or Beta.

I have never tried it. I have had a lot of success leaving the house and coming back two hours later and immediately taking a shower.

VengefullyY0urs · 2017-01-31T13:25:45+00:00

I think even leaving when you are denied sex can take some time to be effective. If she is no attracted to you or you have a history of dead bedroom style "talks" she could just take you leaving as more butt hurt behavior - even when you are going to the gym or whatever. You were comfortable with her in you bed, and she gave a hard no and now you are reacting. Mix that will a whiny non-attractive history and it does not help.

Even this part takes working up to. Honestly, even saying nothing takes working up to.

Soberskipper · 2017-01-31T13:44:24+00:00

That would be a win win for her...especially if she doesn't find you attractive

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SampsonBrass · 2017-01-31T18:54:46+00:00

You have many problems. Your dick is the least of them I'm certain.

RedPillRisingFromAsh · 2017-01-31T19:08:19+00:00

I think monkeys do that in the zoo right?

Title	Alternative to commonly given MRP advice
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Date	January 31, 2017 2:56 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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