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[–]Musicgoon 56 points57 points58 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Bro you are not beta looking. You can pack on some muscle and it shouldn't be that hard. You need to keep in mind that this shit isn't instantaneous. If you've been lifting for a month, keep it up. You can get pretty jacked in one year. You can work on your game and social skills. It sounds like your attitude sucks. If you can curb your ego, you can be very successful.
[–]red__Man 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
op been lifting for a month and wondering why he isn't jacked yet. LOL
[–]Stryx71 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OP should realise lifting is a lifelong commitment. You don't get jacked once and you're jacked forever. It takes time, effort and planning but it's definitely 100% worth it.
[–]themostgianthorse 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Bro, you’re gonna be fine and shaved head looks good. Keep lifting.
Do something that scares you this year. Hold a snake. Jump out of plane. Do some public speaking. Approach women. Whatever it is.
You don’t need to go all Rambo. You need to identify something that is slightly outside your comfort zone and do it. Then your comfort zone has expanded. Repeat.
Do not get any dumb ass surgery.
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Dumb ass-surgery
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[–]JohnZoffman 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im all for helping guys out, but shaved head look weak as shit
[–]IamEins 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro from the things that you say, you got a lot of limited beliefs.
The most important thing in this world is your own thinking. If you think that you can do it, you will do it.
There is nothing wrong besides the limitations that you put yourself in front of.
Go out and have fun. Approach a lot of women and dont put them on a pedestal.
Your whole post is soaked in self doubt and low confidence. IMO you are not even a bad case of a beta. Lift and have some strong mindset about yourself. Put yourself first in regards to women.
[–]LuniOPS 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro, you don't need surgery. What you need is a job like working at Banana Republic or any fashion retail where you have to talk to people all day. It's gonna suck and feel awkward for a while but once you get in the groove of talking to high social value people, that beta cuck will fade away.
Trust me, this is the best advice for you.
[–]selfimprovementman3 45 points46 points47 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Bro all you need is minoxidil and a nice fade and youll be a fkn god bro youre only beta looking because you percieve yourself to be. Go get a tan aswell my g
[–]ScalpelLifter 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Finasteride and minoxidil or the loss will continue getting worse
[–]RedEyeBlackEye1 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR LOOKS, OP!
1) some motherfuckers were born with GIVEN advantages over you...but so what.
2) get a good haircut for your face shape and grow a heavy stubble or short beard. Keep it trimmed to 3-6mm(sweet spot for attraction and aesthetics), keep the sideburnlines, cheeklines, and neckline edged up. NOW, YOU'VE JUST JUMPED 2PTS IN LOOKS.
3) lift hard AF, think about the body you wanna have, the Physical capabilities you want, and THE WOMEN YOU WANT TO ATTRACT. This should motivate you. It damn sure motivates me.
4) eat your macros, protein is a MUST, 4 eggs everyday, supplement with b complex.
5) noFap, semen retention, and sexual TRANSMUTATION.
6) work hard, stack bread(30-50% of EVERY GAWD DAMN PAYCHECK.
7) streamline expenses.
8) Also, IF YOU SPECIFICALLY DO 2-5, YOUR LOOKS WILL IMPROVE. The better you look, the less "game" you need. That's why it's called "be attractive, don't be unattractive." It's referring to be good looking AND running "don't fuck up game". Which is where you simply don't say or do RETARDEDASS shit. No real "game", just common sense shit, OP.
Edit:
So what if some clown was born with xyz advantage over you? You can still improve SIGNIFICANTLY IN EVERY SMV CHARACTER STAT. Small wins add up to BIG VICTORIES, but only if you put in the work. So, you may not be the tallest, strongest, fastest, swaggerest(not a word ik), smoothest, swolest, most handsome, most game, most charismatic, richest, most stubbled, most well groomed, most sex appeal having, baddest fucking, fighting motherfucker in the room, but guess what...
...that means YOU CAN IMPROVE.
Do the work, OP.
Good luck
[–]theoverlordactual 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Not a native English speaker, what do you mean by streamline expenses?
[–]Labulous 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Budget and stop buying frivolous shit that doesn’t improve your life.
[–]theoverlordactual 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amen to that.
[–]ripandtearuntil 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're only 22.
It wasn't until about 25 that my beard started to fill in well. Most men's facial hair develops up until even their 40's and 50's. If you want a stronger jaw just lose body fat.
[–]BurnYourFlag 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Beta is a mindset you clearly still suffer from. Here is the right mindset in my opinion about how you should feel about how you look.
The way I look should and will always be the thing furthest from my mind. Most of my physical qualities are a product of evolutionary chance and the perceptions others draw about what type of person I am are entirely arbitrary and not my problem.
Beta from the Greek alphabet meaning the second, or more specifically the second letter of the Greek alphabet. This is the literal definition of a beta (male.).
To put your own goals second or to sacrifice your own ideas, goals, viewpoints, life, or happiness for someone you feel second to.
to think that your value Is less than another person's value, and to justify actions you do not want to take for the benefit of that other person emotionally, physically, spirituality or in any other circumstances.
The power to not be beta is something you already posses, and have had your entire life.
In matters of opinion To not care about what everyone else says because you think your opinion Is valid. This is what we mean when we say hold frame. To truly hold frame is to tell the truth absolutely. If you realize you are wrong admit it. If you love someone tell them. If you think your boss is wrong tell them thier wrong here is why. If you dislike how someone is treating you state it and let them know. Speak the truth.
Eliminate your fear of loss, let people know that if they act a certain way you will cut them out. When they tell you to act a certain way tell them "no, and if you don't like it move on, I am they way I am and I refuse to change."
In the face of unbelievable social pressure and scrutiny to stick to your beliefs.
Look at the great thinkers, philosophers, mathematicians, and figures of the past and you will see these qualities.
People thought impressionist paintings were shit, and Vincent van Gogh died penniless on the street. Did he alter course?
Galileo and Newton were persecuted by the church for thier opinions on the sun being the center of the universe by the catholic church the strongest entity on the planet. Did they recant?
Socrates told truth to power to the point where he would rather die than submit, and finally killed himself rather than admit he was wrong.
Einstein and shrodinger both thought the others ideas were retarded and had radically diffrent viewpoints they refused to change.
Everyone of these people were mocked by critics, faced some form of persecution and kept going. Some of them died hundreds of years ago and books are still written about them to this day.
Set real goals, work to achieve them. Don't give a fuck what others think cause the history makers never did. Do things that you want to do and things that will help you achieve your goals.
Women will come and you will find that you don't care if they come.
[–]prostaddict 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man you sound alot like me when I was your age. Nothing in your gif makes me think ‘oh that guy is beta’. Infact you have a solid frame to work off of and you have a good looking face - your looks are not the issue here, it’s the mindset. Have you thought about seeking therapy to uncouple some of the issues surfaced from your Dad and childhood? I’d look into CBT for social anxiety as well - you need to look into being aware of your thoughts and doing thought reversals. Couple that with exposure therapy and you’ll be well on your way
[–]btt069 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I will summarize for you. 4 things: a) Lift, lift like your life depends upon it cause it does. b) Let your hair grow and get a good haircut. c) Get a good fucking tan. d) Main thing: Get rid of that mindset, walk like you are the King taking a stride in your Kingdom, have a good posture.
[–]RP_Bear9 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What can I do besides lift, eat food to put on mass, and keep making money? What's relevant in 2021 for me to read besides the sidebar given my current situation?
Take a cure from Rich Cooper and do the following:
First - you look fine as you are - instead pursue excellent in your career, wealth and your passions. We have all had issues in our lives such as parents who could have been much better - turn that pain into a burning desire to change that situation for life. Make a 15-year gameplan through age 37. Plot how how you will make it from your current income to $500,000 annually, and toward saving 50% of your income over that time frame. (it will likely involve starting your own business in later years). College is absolutely not required. Financial success is what really turns women on rather than muscles and social skills. But natural social confidence comes from business success. When you hit your 30's, you will be the prize. Even, if you are still not to adept socially (and that will change naturally with success) - you can be the shy nerd that is earning hundreds of thousands annually. There are a huge number of quiet women who will give anything at that point to be with you at that level of success - I can practically guarantee you that if you are single, you can has as much sex as you desire - even if you do not have the courage to approach a woman currently at the bar. Simultaneously, gradually work on your social skills - buy the books, practice every day and week.
[–]MikeAlphaGolf 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Takes guts to make a post like this. Credit to you.
But seriously, you look like every other average 22 year old. Not ugly, not great looking, just par. If you got in great shape you’d get laid on looks alone. Your face will naturally improve and become more manly as you get a bit older. Keep training. You can tell you lift a bit but your body is pretty unexceptional. A lot more work to do there.
Get some tattoos if it fits your overall vibe.
Facial surgery would be extreme and totally unnecessary.
[–]Don_Draper27 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1 month of lifting.. Minimal social skills.. Rejected once..
So you took the first step and are disappointed that you don't have pussy lined up at your doorstep?
If this is how you play video games then I feel really bad for you. I was playing a Zelda game the other day and you start off in your boxers with a tree branch as a weapon.
I promise you won't have zero results after 1 year of solid consistent lifting.
Social skills is that, a skill. Level it up. Read "The Game".
1 rejection 🙄, some of us have hundreds of rejections, but 3 plates because of it.
[–]throwawayok272728492 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You’ve only just started lifting by doing strong lifts for one month. Keep working out and eating healthy, in three months you’ll notice a slight change. In a year you’ll look completely different.
Also, don’t over eat. You will want to think the more you eat the bigger your muscles will grow in response. It doesn’t work this way. It takes a significant amount of time to grow naturally. Aim for 200-300 calories above maintenance and that’s really all you need. Anything in excess will put on too much body fat.
[–]beardestbird 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Minoxidil (it works trust me) eat more protein [.7 grams times body weight for amount to eat per day] and lift more. You got a good build man trust me. You can do this.
The social stuff I say just find one friend and hang out with him if you can or try and just talk to everyone. It’s gonna suck at first you’re gonna feel shy but keep it going.
[–]volvostupidshit 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Neck exercise brother. Your chin can be improved with implants if you have the money. I really do not see a problem that is not solveable here.
[–]DownvoteMe2021 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
> Should i get jaw surgery or a hair transplant?
I think you're looking for a physical solution to a mental problem. Therapy would be helpful, don't look down on it just because of some stigma or personal "I shouldn't need this" attitude. You're aware you're having some problems, and just like a nail needs a hammer, a nut needs a wrench, you need some help. Take a bit of that money you're earning and go book a couple sessions with a therapist who deals with inter-personal skills; there are plenty. Good luck.
[–]Big_Parsley1637 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Dont get a hair transplant until you try minoxidil and finastride for atleast a year or two first.
Also try mewing to improve your jaw posture. YouTube has lots of how to videos.
Try talking to guys at the gym and pick up a sport or hobby club to meet other people. I dont think your confidence is where it needs to be to pick up women imo. If theres some sort of serious mental block you might want to talk to a therapist. I think most of your insecurities are just in your head.
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[–]MyStepSisterRapedMe 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What were your levels pre trt?
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What were the mental benefits of trt? Do you feel more dominant and confident?
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[–]Republic_of_Ash 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mate, I wouldn't even worry about your physicality, it's your mindset that needs help. You need to shift it through a painful process of growth. Keep lifting, get some cardio in as well, and grow a beard or stubble one day if you're capable. If not, it's fine. Your chin isn't receding into the back of your head, so chill. Game can be LEARNED. Confidence can be LEARNED also. Keep making mistakes and improve.
[–]PhaedrusHunt 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lift, read, eat clean, and eat a LOT
[–]gyropitaolives 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your appearance is fine. Yes, you're not ripped, but at your current appearance, you should still be able to slay chicks every now and then.
You need to work on your social life. Get hobbies that force you to be social. Dancing, meetups, classes. Force yourself to do social activities 3-4 times/week.
[–]DavidCameronEtonLad 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly you've got a good base to work from and if you continue working out and eating more you should be in a good position. In terms of friends/social side join a sports thing maybe combat spoet. Men bond best through doing stuff together and combat sports is one of the best ways to build comradeship plus a great exercise and practical for self defense obviously.
But the issue for you is a mental one, you're perceiving yourself to be a beta and that's how your manoeuvring in the world. It'll take time to unpack and unlearn a lot of these behaviours but you need to work on it. See yourself as the shit and you'll become the shit ; see yourself as shit and well....
[–]skyrunner22 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
from previous post:
I like Privateman (rip) way of going about it, first build your confidence, then build your overall social skills, then after that you can add game specific social skills. 3 layers, he mentions a book also succeed socially by chris macleod that is highly recommended and seems to have helped many people. Link below to privatemans post
http://archive.is/ydFb4
[–]SteveSan82 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Read The Rational Male.
Read a book on game.
No LTRs.
Stay the fuck away from older women. They will never respect you.
Drop the fucking victim mindset.
It took me over a year after discovering TRP to get laid.
[–]pyth0ns 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“Since I’ve been outcasted from society”
That’s all in your own head.
[–]throwaway210013 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably an unpopular opinion but:
Check out Owen Cook and Julien Blanc on YouTube. Maybe not your cup of tea, but they CHANGED MY LIFE. Basically, what they say is that personality is king.
There are ugly looking guys that pull hot girls all the time. You’re probably not even ugly.
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