How do I tell my human sexuality prof. that using evolutionary psychology to get laid is not immoral?

blackhawks93 · 2016-04-03T14:14:39+00:00

You don't.

EseJandro · 2016-04-03T15:33:51+00:00

To what ends? I see no reason to do this.

Throwaway244555 · 2016-04-03T17:02:53+00:00

Law 9: Win Through Your Actions - Never Through Argument

Any momentary triumph you think you have gained through argument is really a Pyrrhic victory: The resentment and ill will you stir up is stronger and lasts longer than any momentary change of opinion. It is much more powerful to get others to agree with you through your actions, without saying a word. Demonstrate, do not explicate.

Zunscriii · 2016-04-03T15:13:35+00:00

You don't.

Kalikoenig · 2016-04-03T16:19:55+00:00

ask her how women wearing makeup is any different. they are enhancing their traits that men have evolved to be attracted to. what's wrong with a man enhancing his traits that women have evolved to be attracted to?

on the same token, discussing this topic will rarely lead to any good.if it happens, please send an update.

disgruntledearthling · 2016-04-03T20:28:49+00:00

First rule of Fight Club

Archwinger · 2016-04-03T20:40:04+00:00

Keep your damn mouth shut. Being right in college is even more useless than being right on the internet.

Use college like you use a slut. Get what you need out of it, get out, say as little about yourself as necessary.

rep12 · 2016-04-03T14:48:36+00:00

OP what have you got so far? Edit your post to show what you have come up with for making your case, that way we can add what is necessary and remove what isn't.

DforDeadpool · 2016-04-03T16:07:26+00:00

You keep it to yourself. Let them live in the Unicornland.

paperlion60 · 2016-04-03T16:36:43+00:00

Yah, don't do that because if a person decided to teach"Human sexuality" he or she is either a professional victim, a feminist, a beta-male or all of the above. They do not care about logical thinking or philosophy, they care about "facts" that keeps their belief in place.

Whisper · 2016-04-04T05:29:04+00:00

Don't argue about this stuff with randoms from your local area.

TheInkerman · 2016-04-03T15:05:16+00:00

Morality is a fairly bullshit concept, it is different for everyone and therefor one person saying "that's immoral" is basically like someone saying "well I think this...".

But, to your point, just look her dead in the eye and ask if she thinks homosexuality is immoral. If not, ask her what her response is to the argument it is. If it at all comes back to gays are 'naturally' or inherently inclined that way, and can't change, then ask her why she distinguishes their natural inclinations from moral judgement but not heterosexuals.

rshackleford161 · 2016-04-03T15:38:40+00:00

Has your professor explained why?

korben_manzarek · 2016-04-03T16:51:18+00:00

I'm not following. Assuming the dating market is a zero sum game (it's not, you can date multiple people, or you can date someone who is very sheltered and would otherwise never meet someone, or you can try very hard and get to date someone who thinks she doesn't want either sex or a relation meaning you are influencing the supply side of the market), why would that make every tactic that you use moral?

If you promise a girl a relationship, have sex with that person, then dump her, how is that suddenly moral?

squishles · 2016-04-03T17:11:03+00:00

You can pair down the because of that argument to make it more palatable. It can be explained in an egalitarian fashion from simple principles of economic opportunity cost, everything is a resource including time and effort. You save time and effort for both parties signalling certain things. By using it to explain itself, an argument becomes self referential which isn't good for convincing someone intellectual.

The alternative also kind of sounds like nilism. EG what is the alternative model? Is it whatever you happened to think before considering that angle? Could be anything out to the absurdity of "if I lock them in my basement", "if I accrue enough good boy points", or "one will just appear in my lap"

Atheisticles · 2016-04-03T17:26:31+00:00

Are you taking it as a subject?

I'd go with his theories just to get a distinction in his/her class.

snaptogrid · 2016-04-03T19:09:57+00:00

Why are you arguing with your prof? You've got better things to do than that, no?

Ricardo2991 · 2016-04-03T23:29:06+00:00

I'm not recommending you bother "telling" your professor anything... Your personal opinion is likely unimportant to him or her. That said, your argument is nonexistent and uses a weak analogy. I'd recommend using Kant's Categorical Imperative to argue your point. Although if you view sex as an end, you may find yourself labeling people as sex objects, which won't go over so well.

EntitledShitHead · 2016-04-03T23:51:36+00:00

Don't do that. Say as little about yourself as you ever have to.

BlueBlus · 2016-04-04T02:11:06+00:00

Morality is relative. Don't try to convince your professor.

SpinPlates · 2016-04-04T03:21:36+00:00

"How do I put a target on my head"

anotherswingingdick · 2016-04-04T06:28:55+00:00

Is your information valuable?

Why would you give it to him for free?

Subtletorious · 2016-04-04T11:17:22+00:00

First, only get involved in that debate if there is some tangible benifit to doing so.

How about this argument: If Evo Psych accurately represents the underlying desires of men/women then apply those principles must ultimately lead to satisfaction of those desires. If increasing mutual pleasure of the world is moral, then applying Evo Psych must be considered moral.

raisins3142 · 2016-04-03T17:58:06+00:00

The only way I would hint at it is to frame it as a philosophical discussion and not you informing someone.

You could start by asking "well, how do you define morality?". Then ask something along the lines of "why do you feel that using knowledge that you have about people to get what you want immoral?" Maybe then mention some examples where folks get what they want and try to compare, etc.

Just go into it without wanting to prove anything and have a discussion, and don't tip your hand by mentioning TRP, etc.

Title	How do I tell my human sexuality prof. that using evolutionary psychology to get laid is not immoral?
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