What things can I start doing now to develop a more positive masculine character? Also, how do "artistic" types fit into the SMV heirarchy/get laid - pure game?

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-04-03T13:36:52+00:00

Don't think that being artsy is a drawback. Chicks love guys with skill, and many love musicians. Own it, and take those hobbies seriously. Being artsy is great, just do it like a man. Do it with a purpose.

Muay thai or BJJ will help connect you to your masculine, give you balance with the arts, and just another thing to improve.

You'll get friends through martial arts.

Work towards to architect thing, that's cool.

Keep pushing. This is a marathon, not a sprint. Give yourself a good start.

BusterVadge · 2019-04-03T13:57:28+00:00

Artistic types get laid all the time. If that's who you are, play up to that. Be awesome and passionate at what you do and the pussy will follow.

You did not mention a lifting program. Right now the very best thing you can do to become more masculine is get on a lifting program. Start out with SL 5x5 or Starting Strength. ("I lift" generally means that you're fucking around in the gym. I know. I have been there).

Been thinking about starting muay thai or BJJ.

Stop thinking, start doing. You're welcome.

vandaalen · 2019-04-03T12:57:34+00:00

I cannot give you a mission. Nobody else than you can.

Keep lifting and start BJJ. That will help with friends and open up a new world of perspectives and opportunities. It gave me a whole new career (two actually) and circle of friends at the tender age of 38.

Nothing wrong with being an artist. Set goals to reach. Short-term, mid-term and long-term. The long-term goal should look unreachable from your current point of view (i.e. I want to be the architect of the biggest bridge the world has built or something like that). Then determine what would be important milestones to reach (i. E. get a degree in architecture). Then find out what you can do right now to work towards these milestones and start right away.

Your goals will not be set in stone and are subject to change anyways. Your mission always is something organic.

As you progress, new opportunities will present themselves and will open up perspectives you have never even considered.

ComplexProjection · 2019-04-03T14:54:55+00:00

Seems like you have already a mission: jazz.

Being a man is not being a masculine cliché, it's about becoming good at what you like. Any mission is a good mission, as long as it carries you forward, in the direction where you want to go.

chazthundergut · 2019-04-03T15:11:17+00:00

Go get rejected 100 times. That'll get you started

signsoflife620 · 2019-04-03T12:51:43+00:00

It seems like you're self reflecting really well and aren't afraid to see your shortcomings, so that's a good step. I would suggest keeping your hobbies as just that, your hobbies. I think you should definitely work out and learn a martial art. But aside from that, try to build a career. Try to find something you like to do but is also employable and makes a good amount of money or at least a decent amount of money. This is a mission I think you should take and will be the focus of your life. Try to find the perfect intersection of what you enjoy but is also realistic in terms of providing (financially) the type of life you want to live.

th33unsaltednutt · 2019-04-03T13:15:46+00:00

Dood im a musician of 11 years(guitar) pluz i also do mma great balance. Just go out and do it. I got by soft side and my aggresive side. At your fight gym you will meet great people and the one asshole.

DANYboy52 · 2019-04-03T15:32:04+00:00

Low carb if you want to feel more masculine. Don't trust me, just try it

latinasonly · 2019-04-03T17:23:04+00:00

SMV is about respect . if you are really talented in a certain field , you will have the respect of girls who are into whatever that field is , unless of course you do dumb things that strip you of respect.

being masculine is about commanding respect everywhere you go, regardless of your skill level in any field by carrying yourself highly and appealing to peoples primal instincts by registering in their mind as " a large animal"

DO NOT DROP ART . IF YOU ARE MASCULINE AND ARE INTO ART YOU WILL KILL IT WITH THE LADIES BECAUSE THERE WILL BE LITTLE COMPETITION!

start weightlifting , learn to fight , and confront people when necesdary.

hang around with some "rough" people - blue collar job , basketball at the hood park , asshole gym bros , etc. and the rough will rub into you.

Eartripping · 2019-04-03T17:48:20+00:00

If you're good at jazz and look at least somewhat attractive they'll jump your bones. I play saxophone and I can walk in a place nobody pays me any attention but usually after a playing a gig there are iois everywhere and I've even been approached a couple times.

Ohboohoolittlegirl · 2019-04-03T13:07:54+00:00

Lol Porn and masturbation have their place in life, as long as you find a balance. I personally would not recommend stoppiong that, monk mode advocates are really strong in their convictions, but I have my doubts. I would work on keeping your own core values during all your interactions, work on stoicism and keep lifting. Find hobbies you enjoy, not that seem masculine. I've been getting laid for years, while one of my hobbies is badminton. Fuck it, own it.

Frame and masculinity in the end comes down to:Fuck it, own it and be unapologetic about it.

Being musician and creative is the easiest way perhaps to get laid..

58cmoftruth · 2019-04-03T12:50:23+00:00

Internalize the sidebar and top TRP posts. It will take a time.

From other side, if you really quit masturbation than it should be fast to find opportunities to discharge sexual tension.

kaolin224 · 2019-04-03T14:21:13+00:00

Nothing wrong with gaming and porn so long as there's a balance.

If gaming is a hobby you really love, then keep it. Back in college I thought it was a nerdy hobby and stopped for a few years, thinking it'd make me cool and get laid. It didn't do shit.

Getting in shape and getting out there did, though.

I'd caution learning Muay Thai or BJJ because you want to become more masculine. Unless you really want to learn it, it's rough on the body and not something you dabble in.

People are attracted to others who are passionate about their favorite things, and are good at them.

Musicians and artists have it especially easy because they actually create something. Their skill requires talent that most people don't have.

DadOnDabs · 2019-04-03T15:34:10+00:00

I'm a filmer/photographer and my entire career is based on being "artsy". Women love it and it instantly gives me social status when I start talking about the projects I'm doing or people see my work.

OfficerWade · 2019-04-03T17:24:44+00:00

Ok so you want to be an alpha. But you don’t think beta get pussy? If you are an alpha it won’t just happen for you. So keep doing what you’re doing. Don’t stop doing incel- beta hobbies just because they aren’t alpha enough. Don’t stop going to work because it’s not alpha enough.

ElCidCampeon93 · 2019-04-03T17:42:03+00:00

Just keep doing what you're doing, bro. Yeah, go with BJJ first and stick with it and lifting. A lot of jiujitsu guys are chill as fuck, it's very easy to make friends there.

mrsex0227 · 2019-04-03T18:44:17+00:00

I don't really have advice other than my own high school experience. I'm pretty similar (I play jazz drums, draw, and have considered pursuing architecture). Being an artistic type and dressing that way can sometimes have side effects, I've been told I dress like a lesbian, but I was also voted most fashionable guy at my school... Some people like the artistic archetype, some like to shit on it a bit. The key is not giving a fuck (easier said than done). I tried to blend in more for a while, but only through deciding I was going to be authentic did I find people who were authentic themselves. Pretending to be a better version of everyone else gets positive reactions from a wider group of people, but being unabashedly yourself makes you more interesting to the kinds of people I like to roll with: authentic, ambitious, and confident. Your social circle may shrink if you dig in hard to who you are, but the respect you garner from others will grow.

TreesLikeGodsFingers · 2019-04-03T18:55:18+00:00

your mission: be aloof. learn to not care one dam about what anyone thinks especially when it comes to your music and art. it will make you so powerful. take criticism, think on it, and act on it if needed. but never ever ever be emotional about any of it.

party_dragon · 2019-04-03T19:25:51+00:00

check out Goldmun Unleashed - blog, Twitter.

rare_specimen_indeed · 2019-04-03T19:27:24+00:00

Use your artsy crafts to bring people together. Make a band with your friends, and people will attend the jams. Play some shows, starting with house shows, then venues. That artsyness will bring you an unlimited stream of abundance if you use it to create community

Elfclan30 · 2019-04-03T21:13:31+00:00

just be good on ur art. Instant SMV boost, also dont show it off to girls, let them investigate u, I like writting and I notice if I be showing them off my writtings its actually a bit cringey.

RedPillAlphaBigCock · 2019-04-03T21:49:02+00:00

more hobbies and fun - make some friends - enjoy life and keep lifting - it will come

EdvardMunch · 2019-04-03T22:41:34+00:00

Man, every time I meet a super cool art girl shes with what looks like a soy-boy.

And ive mostly seen artistic masculine guys with ex sorority now artsy hot chicks or once ugly duckling now hot nerds.

Thats all my lifelong experience though. I dont think basic hot chicks care about the arts, thats why they're basic.

Ive noticed girls who might be associated as hipster/indie types usually have great wide hips, great legs/butt. Not sure why that is. But attractive women are attractive women no matter what camp they run with.

Harambe440 · 2019-04-03T22:59:09+00:00

Lifting weights, boxing, mma, etc. Any of that will help.

linkofinsanity19 · 2019-04-03T23:09:18+00:00

Goldmund has some a book and some other stuff over photography game. There's bound to be some principles that will carry over for artsy types. There's a niche out there for musicians too, though it's probably not so much a niche as a straight positive thing when it comes to women. Don't forget to develop skills to get you paid, or to get paid for skills you've developed.

VigilantSmartbomb · 2019-04-03T23:51:54+00:00

Dang I gotta quit porn, masturbation, AND video games?!

Thunderfin · 2019-04-04T02:05:52+00:00

Go find your own missions. Until then you'll never be a man, only a follower. And that's beta to the extreme.

resnine · 2019-04-03T13:53:27+00:00

At least you realize it and are working towards a change.

I've met masculine artsy guys. But very few of them. The majority of artsy guys are as beta as they come, almost like they are actual women.... They are low on the SMV hierarchy. Very few women are attracted to these deeply emotional artsy/poetry-writing types. Something about art just makes men beta. The introverted artsy, emotional, poet type seems to do very poorly with women. They also seem prone to loneliness, depression, and just generally being weird/strange people. Lone wolf-types, social outcasts... You don't want to be that lonely artsy beta man wearing his dirty beta hipster clothes drinking his coffee writing his inceldom/loserdom poetry.

jellybrick87 · 2019-04-03T17:49:05+00:00

Wanting to become a man.

Pretty sure being a man purely requires going through male puberty.

Then it's up to you what kind of man you want to be.

Have no idea why you believe lifting makes you a man, whereas gaming and porn makes you less of a man? Nerds and geeks are fine.

Not sure fitting into an alpha male stereotype is really gonna be help your case or anybody's. It'd be like a woman getting breast implants purely to attract more men, even if she's pretty happy with her body and doesn't want bigger boobs for herself.

Pursuing an egodystonic self-image affects self-esteem negatively, and may bring to obsession and compulsion. That happens with anorexic women, and men affected by body dysmorphia.

masterpiece00 · 2019-04-03T14:14:28+00:00

Martial arts are a meme and try hard, and this post sounds like you are prepared to become something you are not - putting on the mask of an alpha won't make it so.
Women will smell your act a mile away and people will see yourself as a pretender.

Just be who you are and do what you are interested in

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