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[–]LordCarnifex 121 points122 points123 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You can break the ice in stupid ways if you can actually sustain conversation. A lot of dudes obsess over coming up with the perfect approach line but it's easier to just be organic and say something that makes sense at the time. There was one time where two friends were at a bar wearing the same color denim jacket as me. I just asked them if this was where the hot people in light blue denim were supposed to congregate. Other times when bars were super jammed I've asked a girl to weaponize her looks for me by getting herself and me a drink so I could skip the line and hand a 20. Purists will say shit like "wow lame dude you spent $5 on her" but it's that or wait 40 minutes, and my hourly is higher than that. Other times it's just a simple observation, but I don't compliment looks. Might compliment style or make an observation about shoes or clothes, but breaking that barrier will immediately let you know what's up through body language. The key IMO is to avoid seeming afraid, nervous, or intense. It's awkward for women when they can sense that you have your emotional net worth riding on their response. If you seem cool, you'll be amazed at how little it takes. And some days you will legit catch someone on their worst day and take a massive L. That's ok too.
[–]damiancontrol 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The problem with "just be natural" or "be organic" is that although it's 100% true and is the ideal solution. A lot of guys just can't do it... if they can they wouldn't be asking the question in the first place
[–]LordCarnifex 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My advice would depend on someone's level of social ability. If I'm talking to someone who interacts with a lot of people in normal/average ways professionally and is only struggling in the world of women then the above is what I'd say. If I'm talking to a dude whose job is 100% remote, involves zero talking, doesn't have a hairstyle that fits him and wears a bunch of graphic tees and cargo shorts, I'd advocate something more structured. It's like writing -- when you're just starting out you often imitate your favorite writers until you can find your own voice. Once you know what "you" sounds like, you can easily interface game concepts with your personality. Most guys can shoot the shit well enough to open. If someone can't do that then I would be walking them through building a social circle. It feels weird to me to advise someone about women if they don't even have friends or can't hold a basic convo with me for 5 minutes, but yeah, it obviously changes based on whether you're a C-average or an F-average hardcase.
[–]Stender_80 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Totally agree! I don’t consider myself good with females by any means but I’m definitely attempting to date…. My go to is anything just to start a conversation and it doesn’t matter what it is, if i can make her laugh with my opener that’s a bonus but not necessary. Once the opener is used, if she’s interested she’ll continue the conversation or if i sense she wants nothing to do with me I’ll politely say nice to meet you and part ways. No harm in trying and worst she can say is “no thanks, i have a boyfriend” lol
[–]LordCarnifex 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely. Any way that allows you to build rapport quickly in a way authentic to your own personality is what you want to do. Once she knows you're not going to club her over the head, then you can focus on building attraction. I usually stumble into dudes who 1.) are trying to open in ways completely incongruent with their personalities 2.) try to jump to building attraction without first establishing comfort or 3.) stay in comfort/rapport because flirtation runs the risk of rejection. If we avoid these pitfalls we're generally ok, and there's all sorts of way to get there that will align with each dude's personality.
[–]letmereaddamnit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Best line I ever used was when I was super drunk, pointed at her tits and said "what you've got going right here? Big fan" she laughed and I got her number. (Didn't work out, she was from California and that shit don't fly around sober me)
[–]PRSouthern 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Maybe some unconventional advice, but then again I’m not a player/pickup type… talk to everyone. When I stopped discriminating in that sense, my social skills improved a lot. I learned how to read body language and the situation, and if my company/conversation was welcomed or not. It also made me more confident in that my outings were not defined on success with a woman. I met interesting people, I discovered a couple “gem” hangouts (sadly a couple are gone!). I was surprised to learn that when I gave people space after feeling like my company wasn’t wanted, they would sort of come back to me realizing I was just trying to strike up conversation but wasn’t being desperate. I think making the goal simply to go out, enjoy a hot meal (I always worked that in as a reward for exercise), and the possibility I may meet someone who I hit it off with..that worked for me.
You don’t have to be Superman, but put some effort into light lifting, light cardio, grooming on a basic level, clothes that fit well etc.. everything added up goes a long way. I recommend going out after exercise if possible.. you’ll feel better physically and mentally.
[–]raclnp 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Great advice actually. Sounds much more natural and not desperate, and like you could enjoy yourself and just see what happens. Going out is not only about picking up girls, but having a good time in general.
[–]PRSouthern 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks! Less is more, is what I learned. Attraction should involve some level of give and take. If you find yourself giving too much, pull back and give the other person an opportunity to make a move. And if they’re not showing signs of interest, don’t take it personally. You never know what someone is going through! They, woman or man (or whatever), could be out just looking to decompress and not really socialize… yet we take it personally if they put up a wall. It’s not always about you. I think acknowledging someone’s desire for space or that they aren’t INITIALLY into you goes a long way. I think it also results in less disappointment as you’re not as invested. Should be like a game of tennis.. back and forth. One person serves, the other returns. If one person is constantly serving, and it’s not being returned.. not much of a game, right? It’s okay to move on to another game.
[–]thelambofdeth 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
This is literally the biggest hurdle I have. It's like what if she doesn't have an eye-catching garment of clothing or something that easily strikes a conversation. It's pointless to compliment anything physical or say "you seem interesting" or "I wanted to talk to you" or the like since, duh she knows that bc you approached her. But it's like literally, how do you begin the interaction?
[–]mjornir 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
why not just say “I think you’re cute”
[–]thelambofdeth 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
A. She already knows, that that's why you approached her.
B. Now she already has your validation.
C. That's what every guy ever says.
[–]ternaryoperators -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Disagree, I think it’s rare for girls to receive compliments in public
[–]thelambofdeth 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol OK dude
[–]fourwindsgold -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Hi, can I meet you real quick
John anthony on youtubes opener
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
...what?
[–]fourwindsgold -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
This is the opener : ‘Hi, can I meet you real quick’
The opener is from a dude on youtube called John Anthony.
There you go my slow friend :)
[–]thelambofdeth 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
That's...weird. You can't approach someone and ask "can I meet you"...is this like a language translation error or something?? That's pretty awkward....
[–]fourwindsgold 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No… its just to get their attention then you introduce yourself. You really think a girl is thinking ‘wow he asked if he could meet me thats fuckin creeeepy’
The truth is bro in most interactions the last fucking sentence you said is usually forgotten in about 5 seconds so wtf does it matter. Thats just an easy thing that you can always say
[–]thelambofdeth -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No, they're going to think 'that's fecking awkward"...
[–]fourwindsgold 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Jesus 😂 you are just overthinking my dude
[–]thelambofdeth -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Whatever, mate.
[–]No-Pay9075 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
that's a weird opener lol.
[–]fourwindsgold 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The guy seems pretty legit and he says thats the only opener he ever uses
[–]PimpinAndreTheGod 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Dude, just go up to any woman and just say whatever is on your mind. Women love strange, funny or clever type of openers. Why? It shows that you don't give a fuck about what she thinks. If you can make them laugh right away, even better. Most dudes start the most fucking boring conversations with women- "Hello, how are you?"-How creative!
If you say that stuff that is interesting, off the wall or things that capture their interest, women are driven by emotions- saying "Hello, how are you?"- triggers no emotions.
[–]shinesbrightly13[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This lol ^
[–]jakkaroo 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Get near them and make a comment about literally anything in the environment. If you notice something funny, share it with them (run it by a friend first to validate the humor). If you have an interesting observation, share it with them. Or ask if they've tried a particular drink you're thinking about getting. Anything along those lines. If all else fails, just get near them and let your presence be known for a while, don't stare or anything. Then just say hi with a smile and introduce yourself. There is really no wrong way to do this as long as you keep your cool and don't act like a creep. Just be genuine and friendly.
[–]jjboy91 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Good question, where I live, all the people at bars are sitting down so it's super complicated.
[–]The-Bull89 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Easy one I've used in the past. If there's an empty chair at the table approach put one hand on the chair as if your about to move it and ask if it's taken. If they say it's free sit down and let you a sigh of relief thank them because you've been standing for ages. Then quickly change the subject and get into conversation.
If you pull it off they'll laugh and it'll be easier to start conversation.
[–]jjboy91 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Definitely trying this
[–]777MK777 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you give zero fucks you will get laid. I’ve gotten numbers by saying shit like “It smells like whores in here.” (Not seriously but in a fun “I love whores” kinda way)
Approached a beautiful Hawaiian woman by walking up to her and saying “What’s the deal? You only date black guys?”
If you are worried about what how or what you’re dead in the water.
Be you. Relaxed. Cocky. Funny…zero fucks.
[–]PabloMontana13 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. I learnt to just loosen up and do what feels right. Stop giving too many fucks lol
[–]ChicoBrillo 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’ll never feel like the right time and you’ll never have the right thing to say. So just do it.
[–]Woujo 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I made a post about this: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ra7c17/the\_best\_thing\_to\_say\_to\_a\_woman\_when\_you\_approach/
[–]mjornir 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I find something I like about them and drop a compliment. then ask questions and go from there
[–]waanotherbrickll 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Hi, have you met Ted?"
[–]TLu_03 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“You look like you’re having too much fun in here. Gonna have to ask you to tone it down a little bit please, ma’am”
[–]stevelle174 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Excuse me, I saw you across the room. You are so beautiful that I had to come introduce myself!"
Be bold
[–]eatout2helpout 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
one foot in front of the other
[–]burncushlikewood 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://youtu.be/9mVFtDiMyLY Best of luck to you! Here's rich aka gambler telling you the formula for night game, he has another video but it's over an hour
[–]billyoatmeal -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't, I let them approach me. If they happen to sit by me, I might spark a convo but that's about it. Trying to force anything is a bad idea.
[–]5_7pickup -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Refer to my field reports
[–]Seauxsouthern -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Eye fuck her. If she reciprocates…you’re in. I’m a very attractive confident woman and if a dude comes up to me without any eye contact first and just starts talking I would prob dismiss him.
Every situation is different. Is the woman alone ? Is she with friends? How do you even know if she’s single ? I feel for you dudes truly.
I’m open to give any of you a hot woman’s POV on how to seduce her…just ask.
[–]zxblood123 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Let’s hear it milady
[–]Seauxsouthern 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you have a specific question?
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m a very attractive confident woman
Sure, mate. Humble too.
loool worst larper ever.
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yeah, if you're a simp
[–]i_love_crazy_hobos 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I try and do “Hi my name is Omar”, then comment on the situation, comment on the music, talk about my week, my plans, how the night been going.
Whatever comes to mind, if anything. If nothing comes to mind, i try and slog through. Saying anything. Just try to say something. Tell her you’re nervous, and you suck your own dick if you can’t think of anything else.
[–]denali_HD2020 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just go up to girls and tell them that it looks like they' re having fun or I ask what trouble are they up to tonight.
[–]Deep-Room6932 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
From the front or the side... rarely from behind
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