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Five Tips to Start a Conversation with a Girl You're Interested In.

Tenmagnet

October 17, 2017

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Title	Five Tips to Start a Conversation with a Girl You're Interested In.
Author	Tenmagnet
Upvotes	152
Comments	46
Date	October 17, 2017 2:39 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/76yyee/five_tips_to_start_a_conversation_with_a_girl/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/seduction/five-tips-to-start-a-conversation-with-a-girl.1435400 https://theredarchive.com/post/1435400

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Fake personality? Breh, we can go to war over this.

Joking aside, I don't really think it's a fake personality so much as it is a mechanism used to exact my goals.

I'm a human. I have speech. I have desires. I use speech to get desires.

I can say one million things to a woman and have only one end goal in mind. Getting to know her. Vagina.

I can talk about cat pee, Bernie Sanders, elevators, gender, the weather, animals...you get the point. Language is a tool, and your words don't matter.

Source: bachelor's in applied linguistics.

There's a linguistic theory that speech only exists and is used by an actor to act on this world. There's absolutely no other purpose of an utterance than to provide a result for the originator of the utterance.

We're basically really simple creatures with very large vocabularies, which enables us to expand our understanding of greater and greater subjects, as we add more and more labels to discuss (which also expands our vocabularies as a species).

I talk cat pee, what I mean is "Future sex? smile "

And the girl says, "Haha you're silly. Let's future sex."

That's literally the summary of my conversation up there.

[–]Alexfreitasart 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well, I think I understand every point you made. Still, what you say matters. Since you said yourself that you talk cat pee meaning "future sex" you are actually communicating this through non verbal cues. You are using this non verbal cues with congruence, saying something like "I don't care what I say because I don't care what you think of me, I'm a fun person to be around and I'm a little crazy" and yes, you are kind of faking a personality (unless you are not) to achieve your goals, which I don't think is wrong myself, I just think this would be impossible for someone that is just starting out. It's much easier to be "act" while the words you said with your mouth are words that your real self would actually said. The guy up there was just pointing out that what you say matter. The guy who wrote the article is saying "it doesn't matter" and the line below he says "but you can't say whats'up; hey; how you doing; etc" So again, what you say matter. Unless you REAALLY can use this "I'm crazy and fun and I talk everything that comes to my mind" personality like it is your own, I don't think the cat pee thing would be a good idea. It certainly is not better than the regular "whats up" because whats up as well can be said in 10000 different ways, communicatig different things. I think YOU can talk about pee and get away with it, I don't think you are just good at thinking about this dialogues, I think you are really good. IF you are really good, you can say anything, because you can act it out, use your improvisational skills. But if you are starting out, you don't. If you are really good with a guitar, you can improvise some cool solos. But if you are learning to play the guitar, you have to repeat a lot of stuff until it feels natural to improvise. Well enough said, I was just saying I understand what the guy above said. I understand what you said as well, but you two are in different points of skill develpment. To him, what he actually says with his mouth is important. You can talk about anything bcause you have developed skills. It seems like some people that preach "go natural" forget this...

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"I think my cat peed on me?"

So I decided to run with what was said you can't start a conversation with...

"Haha what?!"

Here I'm obviously bad at female dialogue, but I needed another actor.

"Yeah, but maybe it's just my cologne? Do I smell funny to you?" leans in

Here I'm thinking about associated things. I pick scent, because we're animals and smell was the first thing I thought about when I thought about cat pee. Then I thought about other pleasant smells, like cologne, and inserted it into my utterance. And then I attach it all to my purpose. The girl. I need to be closer, I need to be silly, I need to have fun, and I need her to have fun so I can keep having fun.

"No, I don't think so..."

My amazing inner girl speech again.

"Yeah, you either, actually you smell really nice. You're nothing like my cat. Well, that's mean, I didn't mean that. I'd pet you, too!"

This is simply negging. I actually would say something just like this to a girl. It's probably the most accurate statement. This is an example of how I flirt with women. It's a confusing solo game of ping pong and I'm smacking the ball back and forth to myself, away from myself, back to myself. These kind of comments confuse the shit out of girls and they aren't sure if I just hit on them or if I just shit on them, but they see me smiling and love how they're feeling.

"Oh my god, you're ridiculous!"

Okay, girls say this to me a lot, easy to come up with.

"I know, right? We should go get drinks and be ridiculous together."

Associated her words with my suggestion (towards my goal) to make it seem more like I'm agreeing with her, this is all her idea.

All the things I pay attention to in conversations are things you can think about, too. On this sub, conversation seems to be a sticking point for a lot of guys, but they think too much about the wrong thing. I don't think things like, "What do I say next?"

I think, "What do I want next?"

Words are used by your mind to express itself into existence. If words are the product of your mind, then where your mind is at the time will be reflected in the words.

If all you're thinking about is how you'd rather be anywhere else besides walking up to that pretty girl, then it's going to come out of your mouth.

If you're exactly where you want to be, that'll come out of your mouth, too.

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