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Half the work of seduction is getting her to come back. So read this great guide on eating girls out [/r/sex xpost] [very NSFW]

Fred_Flintstone

February 10, 2012

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Title	Half the work of seduction is getting her to come back. So read this great guide on eating girls out [/r/sex xpost] [very NSFW]
Author	Fred_Flintstone
Upvotes	247
Comments	88
Date	February 10, 2012 11:55 AM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/pj9b3/half_the_work_of_seduction_is_getting_her_to_come/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/seduction/half-the-work-of-seduction-is-getting-her-to-come.1328126 https://theredarchive.com/post/1328126

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I know I'll get downvoted to hell for this yet again, but I'll try once again to explain my position on this.

I've fucked plenty of girls, and I know plenty of them have been tested in the past couple years- all were clean, and nothing came back to bite me in the ass.
If a girl's a "skank" (by my definition, that means she'll get with basically anyone who shows interest), you probably shouldn't try to fuck her in the first place. If those are the girls you're going for, I feel bad for you.
You can always gauge a girl based on all kinds of factors- body language, clothing, demeanor, drunkenness, intelligence- all that shit, and if some of those things are lacking, maybe you shouldn't try to get with her.
Assuming she's met the prerequisites- she's cool, sex-positive, not a skank, intelligent, etc- she's way less likely to have any STDs. She might still have herpes or something like that, but not anything truly noticeable/detrimental to you. And most likely, she's been tested before (so she's more likely to tell you about it unless she's a liar).
Again, if all those prerequisites are met, and you like eating pussy, I don't think it's worthwhile to worry about that shit (unless you have other legitimate reasons to worry about it). If you're getting with girls in general, you're probably gonna be eating some pussy (most girls can't cum just from you fucking them, and IMO it's incredibly selfish to just get yourself off and be done with it).
Should you bring it up? In my experience, most of the times you try to do that, it leads to them getting defensive about it and then the sex is mediocre (or doesn't happen at all). Then they can also lie to you either way, so it's not like you can just ask and then rely on the fact that they said "No, I don't have STDs."

So IMO, if you want to eat a girl out, eat her out. If you want to do something more questionable than that (like stick it in her butt, or not wear a condom), feel free to do that too. Just make sure the prerequisites are met, and make sure you don't have any issues with "pre-cum" or anything like that (and if you do, then wear a condom). You can cite statistics all you want, but my statistics support my argument. I've never had any STD issues, and most of the time in general it's an unnecessary worry to have. Though I understand if people worry about it- I just don't think those people have much experience if they're making blanket statements about it.

[–]shivalry 10 points11 points12 points 14 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

[–]frogma[M] 8 points9 points10 points 14 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Here's some other shit:

What type of diseases can you get from fingering?

How to Reduce the STD Risk of Cunnilingus

The 6 Most Common STDs for Men This site says that about 330,000 men tested positive for gonorrhea in 2005, so they estimated that about 700,000 had it in the US. That's 700,000/300,000,000. You do the math.

Same site as above. About 6 million Americans get HPV every year (men and women). Do the math on that too. Also feel free to factor in the fact that men often don't show any symptoms.

Same site again. Women are half as likely to get HPV if the guy wears a condom (keep in mind that they're not likely to get it even if the guy doesn't wear a condom, but I realize this discussion is based more on emotions than truth).

My overall point- if you're gonna worry about that shit, wear a condom. If you're gonna worry about cunnilingus to the same degree, you're a fuckin idiot since you're less likely to catch something from cunnilingus. If you're gonna worry about everything, then don't ever have sex, and don't try to tell me there's a difference if you've known the girl for a longer amount of time.

I'm gonna put on my mod hat to say this, because I think too many guys have NO FUCKING IDEA what they're talking about, and I don't think it's helpful to spread misinformation.

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[–]frogma -1 points0 points1 point 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And like I was saying, your chances of catching shit through cunnilingus are much, much less than your chances of catching shit through vaginal penetration, so it doesn't make much sense to go ahead with the penetration like it's no big deal but then put up your walls when it comes to oral sex.

And overall there's only so many precautions you can take, such as wearing a condom or trusting a girl when she says she's a virgin (I've been misled multiple times before). So in those cases, should I have just said "Fuck it, we're not gonna have sex because I don't trust you even though you seem sincere," or should I have said "This condom has a 1% chance of breaking and there's a 2% chance of getting you pregnant, so let's not do it"? Of course I didn't say anything like that, because I chose not to let those tiny percentages influence the way I handled the specific situation (in which, like I said, I've already been gauging the girl and figuring out that she's not some skank and/or doing questionable shit).

The whole point I was trying to make through all this is that the logic just doesn't make sense to me. If there's a 2% chance of getting a girl pregnant (which is very similar to your chances of catching most STDs, more or less), then why aren't you worried about that as well? Obviously many people are worried about that, but that doesn't stop you from having sex- especially in comparison to what DashingPrince said about cunnilingus.

And you still can worry about other shit- I'm not trying to say it's bad or anything- but if you're already going out and having sex, then you're already taking certain risks just by the very nature of it. Same thing with driving a car.

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Putting your dick in someone's vagina is liable to result in many similar consequences. We can argue all day about how vaginal penetration compares to oral stimulation if you want, but neither of us (according to you) have any studies to prove anything since "you are at risk for a lot of terrible illnesses MANY OF WHICH ARE NOT YET KNOWN so they can't be tested for." My point is, feel free to shit yourself worrying about it, or don't worry so much.

Here are some facts that are backed by studies so far: The perfect use pregnancy rate of condoms is 2%. The risk of HIV/AIDS (with condom use) is less than 1%. Condoms decrease the risk of spreading HPV by 70% (and while I don't know how it compares to HIV/AIDS, if it's remotely similar than it still puts the risk of HPV at a pretty low percentage). The rate of slippage/breakage of a condom is around .5-1% (compared to pregnancies at 2%).

The documented risk of HIV transmission through cunnilingus is considered to be extremely small, and far lower than that associated with fellatio, vaginal or anal sex. There have only ever been 2 documented cases of HIV transmission through cunnilingus.

The study concludes that people who had one to five oral sex partners in their lifetime had approximately a doubled risk of throat cancer compared with those who never engaged in this activity, and those with more than five oral-sex partners had a 250% increased risk.

If you're only looking at the percentages in that comment above, it sounds terrible. But if you look at the comparative percentages, it sounds a bit different- 14,000 cases of throat cancer are reported each year, so the people with 1-5 oral sex partners might make up 10,000 of those based on the statistics alone (but that probably doesn't reflect the real number). 250% is only a little bit higher than that. And that's still not many people.

Edit: And 42,000 were killed by car accidents in 2005 (in the US). We can go ahead and work out all the real statistics (accounting for age groups and shit like that) if you want, but my point is that it's hypocritical to worry about certain things (like catching an STD) when you're doing other things (like fucking girls). If you want to be really careful about it, be my guest.

Double Edit: Let's go deeper. If a girl fucks 4 guys, she's 85% likely to catch some form of HPV (keep in mind that 90% of HPV infections disappear within 2 years). Statistically that means that 1 act of sex makes her about 20% likely to catch HPV (might be wrong about that- it could be around 3%. It's been a while since I took Stats), but with a condom that can be cut down to like 7% or something.

And none of that is accounting for what I said above. Don't just go around fucking random girls because you can. Connect with them and see what they're like, gauge them, and go from there.

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I just don't think those people have much experience if they're making blanket statements about it.

The thing is... If you get a girl to come home with you, even if you had to work hard for it, don't assume it was her first one-night stand. Since you're fucking her, it's obviously possible to fuck her (see "Anthropic principle"). It is therefore possible for her to have obtained an STI. Most STIs can be present at first without symptoms showing, so when she says she's clean she might not even be consciously lying and still be a danger to your junk.

So IMO, if you want to eat a girl out, eat her out. If you want to do something more questionable than that (like stick it in her butt, or not wear a condom), feel free to do that too.

I can't believe you use words like "blanket statement" and still advocate rawdogging on a one-night stand.

[–]frogma 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wasn't advocating it, just saying to feel free. Rawdogging was a lot of fun with a particular girlfriend who was on both pills (the day-after pill and the one you take regularly). I even came inside her every time, and now I have 3 beautiful children (not really).

If you get a girl to come home with you, even if you had to work hard for it, don't assume it was her first one-night stand. Since you're fucking her, it's obviously possible to fuck her (see "Anthropic principle"). It is therefore possible for her to have obtained an STI. Most STIs can be present at first without symptoms showing, so when she says she's clean she might not even be consciously lying and still be a danger to your junk.

I know exactly what you're saying, but this is part of the point I've been trying to make. If you're already bringing girls home to do shit, you're already putting yourself in that position. So you have some options:

Don't have one-night-stands.
Wear a condom.
Fuck the girl- and wear a condom- but don't do oral (fuckin stupid IMO).
Only do oral and don't fuck the girl (technically a smarter idea than the above, which many people in this thread don't seem to understand).
Go nuts and do everything. This is more risky but also a lot more fun. It's up to the individual as to what sorts of risks he's willing to take.

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Seems like this writeup focused a lot on the buildup, but not the critical elements for achieving victory. If I may pick it up from halftime:

For the first few minutes vary your pressure and speeds tonguing the clit, among other areas, but in particular observe the amount of pressure/contact she is responding to best on her clit
Pick a pressure she likes and apply that with as steady a rhythm as you can manage. Things will start to build on this rhythm, but you also need time for her to get mentally ready to come, so reset occasionally, diverting attention to all other parts of the playground. Inner thighs and the very bottom of her pussy are highly recommended. The key is to be unpredictable with when you're gonna apply rhythm to her clit while also showing that when you decide to, you know exactly how. This puts her in the right psychological state for orgasm because on the one hand she trusts you but on the other hand she doesn't know what's coming. You want her to know you're in complete control of her body.
If you have executed the above correctly, you will notice that her body is responding more strongly with your rhythm, meaning it's time to go for it. Stay on the clit with a steady rhythm and read her for cues to slightly increase the pressure. When her responses stop building with your rhythm, stop and reset by moving off the clit for a moment. It's important that you read her body. For example, if she starts to try and orgasm, she won't be able to. So put her at ease, tell her how beautiful she is, how sexy she is, tell her you could do this all day. Once she's relaxed, go back to building her orgasm with your steady rhythm. If you build it, she will come.

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Can't remember where I first discovered it, but works like a charm every single fucking time for me:

After you've got her revved up:

Suck area over clit to create a sort of vacuum. Keep your teeth back.
Spreeead your tongue wide. We're going for maximum surface area contact here.
Without making your tongue pointy, i.e. don't undo last step, steadily circle her clit with your tongue, focusing the pressure on the 'edges' as much as possible, but still keeping contact in the middle.
Enjoy her orgasm.

Optional but good idea steps:

Apply a decent amount of pressure as long as you keep the rhythm. You can push your head forward as well as your tongue for this. Some girls can't take as much pressure as others.
Lightly tease her on the vaginal lips by lightly stroking/spreading with a fingertip in a calm up and down motion while you do it.

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