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[–]CompetitionFair7686 67 points68 points69 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Some do some don’t. Depends on how you make them feel during the approach.
If you just go there stopping every woman that walks through the mall you will draw attention to yourself because yes hunting girls is creepy.
It’s creepy because it feels like you want to get something from someone and are looking for your next prey.
So you need to be doing something else and not just spending the evening approaching every girl.
Yes, that’s fine to start the conversation, then get to know what she does for a living, what hobbies she has, talk about yourself too when she asks you back, throw some jokes to get her laughing…
Just go on a walk to some park and sit on a bench with her.
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[–]CompetitionFair7686 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Like i said you have to have something else to do. Approach max 2 women in one place per day, and move on.
Don’t ever say to the girls that you went to the mall to talk to people.
Just say you were shopping, and are on your way home, but had to meet her because she looks interesting.
Basically act like cold approaching was something spontaneous that you didn’t even plan doing until you saw her specifically and don’t stay there in that place for long, move on.
[–]DrakeoDaRLR 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t be needy just a genuine “hey I was walking by I noticed you blah blah blah I thought you were really pretty “
[–]grindforthegold 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
just don’t be obvious, wait till a good set passes by and figure out a good method of approach, rather than yad stopping and creeping out every girl in the mall
[–]Plenty_Software4415 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is very good advice, let’s also factor in that your attractiveness will also play a role in whether they’ll be annoyed or not
[–]effort268 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I rarely post here but been follwing ever since i had a low point a few months ago. Anyways, just my 2 cents but i do think that there a huge self conscious issue going on in a lot of our heads. Granted, succesful seduction is not easy but i think its not easy because you have to build rapport. I guess what im trying to say is we are so caught up in our own head, we tend to over analyzeeverything that we often times forget that the one girl you saw that you really liked, well she shits and farts just like you do. lmao. Granted shes gorgeous but the less value you put in her the better, cause bro, shes just as human as anyone who may have the same sort of challenges that you faced.
so I’ve actually been doing some experiemwnts. I just been approaching people at the park while im biking. Usually its to comment on their cute dogs or something like that. But in general, i feel like the moment we get some rapport the better it is to drive a conversation in whichever way I want. As you escelate the conversation from hey cute dog -> you from around here? -> we should hangout, once you master that its quite natural.
Remember if ahe doesnt feel comfortable neither should you. So remember to connect as a human, try it with strangers of all ages and backgrounds. After doing a good 2-3 per week, bump it up and try to have meaningful coveraatiom w people to better connect. You’d be surprise how much better you can make someone feel, even in the most innocent ways.
How people response to that kind vibe, is all it takes to get the hint if she actually likes you. If she slightly blushing or really into the converaation, lightly escelate, see if she reciprocates, then ask for something and if you youre not succesful, just know that you lost nothing and instead gained experience and self worth. Good for you!
Let’s do it again, perhaps in a hobby of some sort or via friends of friends. Whatever the case is, don’t stop trying. You’ll see what the power of taking control (approaching a girl) feels like while also letting go of whats out of your control (her response). That deep realization will take off so much pressure from us all, in more ways than just dating.
P.S - pardon the typos, sucks tying on the phone. But on a side note, shout to all the kings and queens here looking to better themselves, you’ll get there.
[–]SirDelicious6576 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Based on my personal experience so far, this approach helped me the most. Not focusing so hard only on girls and the seduction element of convo, but rather becoming more social person with people in general. And giving people compliments is just so easy and natural.
[–]effort268 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup this is the most natural way. I hope more people see this as there’s more success and self worth this way
[–]effort268 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh no definitely no touching a kissing. I mean escelate the conversation. Heres an example or two.
I See a girl with a cute dog, (iniitate) i ask to pet it and and comment on xute things, (getting to know eachother) then i ask about the dog and explained how i also had/have a dog. Perhaps even show a pic. (At this point, we’re now getting comfortable, still nothing even remotely seductive). (Escelate) At this point, i should ask if shes from around here and comment how i am too. (Esecalate) Then jokingly i can say something like our dogs should a have play date some day. (Escelate), would you like to exchange numbers and maybe hangout some time? I can bring my dog! (Reconnecting with our first connection)
Mind you, waiting for the right girl at the right moment can be challengin. But in the meantime, skmply practice with peopl. Anywwhere, the more comfortable you get with being uncomfortable talking to people, you’ll get much better at it.
Btw just to share i been doing some dance classes (mostly spanish music) and ive been meeting some girls (girls rotate as we practice(. Most actually find it cool that a guy is into it dancing. Because were literally like 12-18inches away i usually try to break the ice early by cinnecting with anything we have in common. The first example was the dogs, this one is our dancing interest. I usually introduce and ask how long they been here. How they liking it; then i tell them about myself. If im interested, i would probably ask if they want to go out dancing on the weekends to practice some more. I’m again returning to the first connection. With that i can build on and get to know them and with time connect w her romantically/secually.
Everything i describe above is probably the same way you met some of your your friends. Try it
[–]burncushlikewood 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Read some game books, do some approaches and keep a log, reflect on your interactions after. There is a great free book by my favorite Pua he teaches natural game, it's a book on female psychology https://www.academia.edu/26492146/Vin_DiCarlo_The_Attraction_Code_id610645886_size I basically studied female psychology in sexual relations for 4 years, I developed solid game basically having a bachelor's degree in pick up lol
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You got me curious now.
What things did the academics get right and what did they get wrong?
[–]Indian_Cap 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Teach me as well bro
[–]konsmessi 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Τhats what i call dedication
[–]Traditional-Fig9419 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Dude I’m in SLC! Let’s go out and I will help you going
[–]throwaway_6196190012 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Dude spend your time not focusing on girls and better your situation. Work towards a better job with higher salary and get a damn car. Put in work to improve your life, you will have much better return of investment.
I wouldn't worry about taking girls out on dates and just worry about being friendly/social. When you go about your daily life, just try to make people laugh. When one of these people is a cute girl you can ask her out. I know you can do that when you have selling skills
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[–]throwaway_6196190012 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No man you're missing my point. If you're spending all your time working, fins a job that pays same or better that you trade less of your time. Hence putting your focus on that. Not having a car hurts a lot unless you live downtown in a metropolitan area and slc isn't exactly that.
Also I wouldn't say you "need" that stuff but it will 100% bring you more confidence and independence which girls find attractive.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Apparently you should do it whereever (minus a workplace like a barista I guess) and apparently a lot of girls like being approached (contrary to what reddit says).
Idk, I'm not an expert
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, but who knows. Try whatever works I guess and try to minimize the "creepiness factor".
[–]Friendlypotato101 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
What makes you think that a lot of girls like being approached if you don't mind me asking??
[–]__snipes__ 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s one of those things that if you think is true, your experiences in every day life will seek to prove that.
If you think girls generally don’t like to be approached, well, good luck with that. You’ll probably be right.
[–]Friendlypotato101 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I didn't just come up with a theory on my own.
Based on posts on askwomen, as long as you're not already a part of their social circle or friend of a friend, your approach will likely not be appreciated. A 25 yr old college graduate with no social circle of his own who only has coworkers who are too busy to introduce you to someone, will have a super hard time. Just visit some women oriented subreddits and you'll know what I'm talking about. They cry all the time about how they wish stranger guys didn't talk to them at all.
They can make an exception if you're a chad tho...
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It isn't really my opinion, it's just what I've been told apparently.
My actual personal opinion is women don't like being approached at all, they dislike it especially when a short unattractive guy approaches them.
Every time I stated this, I get bombarded with people saying "just be more confident, Yada Yada yada..and that girls actually like being approached"
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I'm assuming you say women also hate being approached?
[–]Friendlypotato101 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm not sure tbh. I just thought you have a reason to believe what you were saying so I asked.
Nah, as of now it isn't my actual opinion. Until I'm proven wrong somehow, I'll continue to believe women hate being approached by guys. Especially by unattractive short guys (like me).
But I wanted to cheer up OPs spirits, so I told him some make feel good stuff that I was told by several people to lift his spirits up.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
i just dm’d u
[–]Appropriate_CapBro 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I would like some tips too I’m in a similar situation
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lets chat
[–]TempAcc64 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Walk over to them and press A.
[–]ddzeroxiii 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What do you mean
Door to door sales is (in my opinion) the toughest type of selling anyone can do. I say that with several summers of experience selling books door to door. The pushback you will receive from women is far less than that of a homeowner. Just approach women like you approach doors, CONFIDENTLY. Start with a simple “hello, my name is X” and go from there… It’s a number game, and you know it.
[–]epimpstyle 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In my native language, your opening sounds like hell....
[–]Substantial_Smell_72 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I changed my life at 24. Pretty much had all my first at late in life and thought I could never change but it is never too late.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't cold approach with "Hi." It's too forward.
[–]Ronnyvar 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have a condom wrapper in your wallet, walk past a girl and let it fall out in front of her, then say:
“whoops, I dropped my monster condom that I use for my Magnum dong!”
She should immediately ask for your number.
[–]CocoBabeNYC -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you are not having success online it probably means you look and dress like shit. And you work 6 days a week and have no money and no car. Why would any woman want to fuck you? Are you that delusional?
Truth
[+]cormacru999 -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
DO NOT "cold approach" women anywhere except a bar or club or place that organizes some form of dating event.
Join a dating site, or many dating sites & feel free to message any woman on the site. If they don't respond or don't want to go any further, leave them alone.
Men spend so much time & energy telling other men how to seduce, date, approach, etc women. Except that data shows (Time just put together a brand new article on this) are more single than ever & if you pay attention to what women share about their experiences, you see why. And that information, if you look for it, listen to it, read about it, learn it - will put you so far ahead of other men. Men capable of growth go far. Men convince that fake dating gurus tell you how to be a "high quality man" are making $ off of your inexperience, anxiety & fear.
Cold approaching is not your only option & all you will do is either scare women or be a creep. Women, every day, all day, are aware of the men around them because men are dangerous. They are fragile & angry when they feel uncomfortable. Then, instead of working on themselves, they talk to other men on Reddit, half of whom are making up their own stories of success or just repeating what they've heard, & then end up angry or depressed & lonely & end up blaming women for it.
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[–]Mundane_Natural5131 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Keep cold approaching bro dont listen to other folks i see women all the time on reddit making post about how to get men to approach them women want to be approached they like it because it gives them reassurance of their value/beauty and makes them feel disired all you have to do is hit the gym hard and follow a scrict diet and your success rate will increase and the caliber of women you are successful with will also increase too women love attention they just dont want the attention from a fat ugly person the same way you dont want attention from a fat sweaty woman thats why you have to make yourself a part with the self improvment and it is a win win for everyone you get a confidence boost when you succeed in a approach and the woman gets a confidence boost too because an attractive inshape indiviudual desires someone like them everyone is happy at the end of the day when you self improve it becomes easier less awkward and you get treated more better women answer texts faster and flake less conversations flow smoother etc
[–]burakbenxd 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you're an idiot
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[–]cormacru999 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You entirely missed the point kid. I'm giving you great advice, but you're too young to see it. The fact that you focused entirely on that fact that I said your one idea is literally the worst thing you could do, & that learning more about what women want would be the best thing you could do, you got stuck on the part where I said stick to the right spaces.
But hey, do your thing, I'm practically an old man now, with kids & grandkids & you won't listen even if I told you about all the women I ever secured, dated, had 3somes with, the lesbians I had sex with. Go ahead, learn the hard way, no skin off my nose. I'm just warning you, if you cold approach women, you will not only stay alone, but each woman will tell the next woman so pretty soon you'll have a creepy guy reputation, all because you're upset that other things haven't worked you at your ripe old age of 25.
Its wild that you think cold approaching strange women would somehow educate you on what women want. Like you, acting like a creep go harrass some woman on the street, & instead of being afraid or annoyed, she'll take you under her wing to teach you all about women. lol
When i was young, women were a total mystery. But now,women write blogs, articles, books, they make youtube videos. All you have to do is pay attention, look to those sources. But yeah, I never cold approached, but I've also never once failed to date or sleep with a woman I liked. In fact, I was great at it & a pretty shitty guy. As I said, jump to the wrong conclusions, get upset,make assumptions about me. You'll see. Like I said, Time literally just did a brand new story on this.
[–]Tovo34 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're giving terrible advice - and you even admit that you've never cold approached. What are you even doing here? Get back to your family.
And to the OP - you should cold approach all the time and be unapologetic about it. Always be respectful, but don't worry so much about coming across the wrong way. The difference between being a creep and being their knight in shining armor is how confidant and comfortable you are - and that comes with time and repetition.
[–]fictitious-name 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok two things. Lose that "do women think it's creepy if" attitude. It's self defeating. People don't like cold sale approaches but you seem to be good at it. Approaching women is essentially selling yourself in a less obvious and braggy way. You're showing you're value as a man and that you have the confidence to approach.
Having said that, there are certain places where women just flat out do not like being approached in an attempt to pick them up. From the little knowledge I have those places include their workplace where they basically have to be nice to all customers and so many men take that for flirting. Another is the gym. They're there to workout (usually) and if they're sweaty, not feeling too confident they may not like being approached.
I always say a place like a bar where it is assumed that people are there to meet potential partners is fair game. If you don't want to do a cold approach, wait til they go up the bar to get a drink and if you can stand far away enough but close enough to do that thing we're you let them catch you looking at them, you look away, then you look back and see if they're now looking at you. If so shoot them a smile and see how they respond. If they smile back I'd say it's a pretty good chance they're letting you know they wouldn't mind if you came over and introduced yourself/offered to buy a drink.
[–]Zealousideal6669 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ofc you need to have some empathy to understand girls but getting girls is not really about getting girls, it's your personality and your skill set so it's more about you and how you develop your personality and your skills. there's a saying that I make no apologies for my desires as a man. If it's needed tattoo it for yourself but if you see someone you want to approach, fucking do that. Especially if you have approach anxiety. From what to say perspective may be in the beginning it's better if you show your interest like I saw you're cute just wanted to say hi or something like this, it doesn't really matter how you open, it's more important how you continue. Your body language is also essential, intense eye contact, open body language, and your tonality all of those matter. If I go to talk to someone i usually just use dvh so demonstrate high value. what do I mean by that? if you have cool friends? if you have a nice lifestyle? if you have a good job? if you're educated? if you're good at some sport? if you tell stories about it she's gonna know that you're a cool enough guy and you're higher value than her so she's more likely to be interested. People usually date higher so girls wanna date someone whos cooler than her but not that much that she has to always worry that you gonna cheat on them. Also, one thing that I use all the time, is called mini cold read. if you look up to it you can practice that on your own but the basic idea is that you have to give her a reason to care about what you say. in the beginning, she doesn't know you enough to care about you but one thing that we all care about. Themselves. so if you make statements about her she cares about herself enough to pay attention to you and if you also showed that you're a cool enough guy you're already way more likely to get a number. Good luck
[–]Local-Flounder-9918 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah take tips from ppl but what I can say is add some danger to you're life , do crazy shit , so talking to a woman wouldn't look that risky/hard/awkward as before lol and being normal is the best way and only approach a girl if you think she's cute/pretty , don't approach women's to practice on them
[–]CenturionLegio 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
the answer is your question
it really is that simple
[–]FranciscotheBull 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Definitely not the best schedule for time, but sometimes starting a conversation always helps. Can always start off with a compliment and see how their reactions are. If it is a smile and appreciate the compliment, you can start a conversation. I think it depends on how people respond as well as how you approach it. Online dating now seems to look like it is lopsided so I would use it as a tool, but not something to rely on in most instances. If you don't go out at all, then you'd have to rely more on online dating.
I don't know you fully as a person and all, but worn on yourself as well as approaching women. You will build more confidence and improve yourself.
Use your skills as well. You have no problem with being a salesperson so use that same concept and shift it towards approaching women. You can find a woman anywhere so just starting a conversation can get the ball rolling. One will feed off your energy and will find one you can get along with. Just depends on the quantity of opportunities.
[–]Majestic_Meal_5655 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro become someone or be about something before approaching woman. If you are just chasing and have nothing going for yourself, this chick's can smell it.
[–]lukewarmoatm3al 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Go to church
[–]lukewarmoatm3al 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ngl I was joking because of all the Mormons in Utah. There wasn’t really any way for you to know that though
[–]Psychological_Low_90 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
have balls thats all.
[–]Ejmd4328 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You had me at basically a virgin lol. Anyways cold approach is way better then online and not many guys do it so many women will enjoy the convo. As long as you got the looks and confidence keep it short, ask her name her age, if she’s got a boyfriend and if she says anything like no or it’s complicated then you’re okay to move on I with her. Ask her what she’s doing in the area and if she’s got any plans for later on that day and then say something like “I gotta go now, but let me get your number (or instagram) and we’ll talk later.” Then leave. Sounds easier said then done but once you get the hang of it it gets fun. Also listen to what they say and answer off of that don’t go in with a set convo, and don’t cut her off unless you have to, let her enjoy talking to you. Smell good and look good really help with securing the number and then you’ll be onto phase 2.
[–]Revolutionary_Fan733 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
See a girl you like, approach and say hi. Done.
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