Seddit... why the games?

RedErin · 2010-08-10T20:35:32+00:00

Every person, at all times during social interaction is performing as if they were in a theatre. This is Sociology 101 stuff. (See this link if you want further study).

Seddit teaches you how to be confident, assertive, and attractive. These are qualities that everyone wants, but doesn't really know how to achieve. These aren't just cons that you use to trick a women into sleeping with you, it's a way to live your life the way you want.

All my life I've been very shy and introverted, and I've hated it. I would be too afraid to walk up to a woman I found attractive and try to start a conversation with her. I no longer have that problem, and I'm loving it.

I was at a party this past Friday and I had pleasant conversation with most of the people there. When I would talk to them, I kept them entertained, they laughed at my jokes and just generally had fun together. I didn't know any of them before I went to the party. I'm married so I didn't try to pick anyone of them up, but I probably could have if I were single.

mynewname · 2010-08-10T21:02:57+00:00

Cats have no interest in what you just throw at them. Flap a piece of yarn near them they can't get and they'll get riled up. Your choices are to abstain from cats and let the guys who play cat games get all the cat action or play the games the cats like.

Sounds like your problem is you're complaining about the situation of women leaving you for abusive assholes, without considering the idea that you can do something about it. You can extract out of abusive assholes the fun parts that women like, then you can be a guy who treats her well who she also doesn't get bored with.

SpaceToaster · 2010-08-10T18:49:35+00:00

Because, quite simply, games are fun.

When you lay all your cards on the table, show her all your feelings, and communicate to her that she has your total devotion and attention, the game is over. There is no challenge. There is no fun.

Dating is, whether you like it or not, a very real competition between you and your fellow males to get the highest quality mates. One of the best was to do this it to be a fun challenge. It's not manipulation, it's keeping tight control over the distribution of your most precious resource: yourself. Things of limited quantity, which are harder to obtain, are more valuable.

tsibutsibu · 2010-08-10T18:15:36+00:00

Because we are still cavemen in a modern society. And a nice guy is often seen as a weak male.

Box-Monkey · 2010-08-10T21:56:43+00:00

I have an analogy for you: Suppose you and a chess grandmaster play chess a lot. The GM rapes you every goddamn game, so bad that you hardly even get to play and you learn very, very little. You attempt to analyze what went wrong, how you can improve, and you come up juvenile, uneducated explanations of a game you don't fully understand.

After realizing how bad you're being walloped each time, you resolve to get better. You seek out strategies that work, you practice them, you learn when they apply and when they don't. You actually get a decent handle on how to use the pieces effectively around the board, and soon become a challenge for the GM.

Now, my question for you: When did you start playing the game yourself? These strategies you picked up are not cut-and-dry guides of "Do it in this specific circumstance, with this specific setup, and this specific time", but more of a general defensive or offensive strategy. You still had to see where they fit and where they did not, no one else could tell you that.

So, really, you're saying you'd rather stay the novice, getting continually beaten to a pulp, than to learn from other's experience and efforts.

celador · 2010-08-10T23:36:58+00:00

I'll use a quotation from The Game.

It's not enough for someone to be themselves. They need to be the best self they can be.

Proper "game" is all about how to be better in social situations; to be a better person. This is why, if you go to B&N, you'll find seduction books in the "self-improvement" section. One can improperly apply the rules of the game to be an asshole, use people, lie to them, and generally make them feel like crap. It can be used for good or bad, like anything powerful.

Box-Monkey · 2010-08-10T22:05:43+00:00

You seem to be saying:

why can't we be ourselves? I'm myself and it works for a bit, then fails!

As Ross Jeffries has said, when you say "I don't want to be something I'm not", you're giving away all of your capacity to change. You are cementing yourself into what you currently are, and cannot change with new times or information because that would be something you are not currently.

AFCGirl · 2010-08-10T18:47:55+00:00

Tell me if I've read this correctly: you don't have problems attracting women in the first place, but they all leave you eventually for someone who you consider abusive?

Are you certain that you're satisfying them sexually? Would you be comfortable behaving more aggressive in bed?

LetsJustBeFiends · 2010-08-11T13:20:05+00:00

AD&D: Judging by your user name, I'm assuming you played it. Ever think about why? The rules were pretty awful in retrospect; the Thac0 system in particular always gave me headaches. There were much less complicated ways to have fun. But I, for one, still played that convoluted game for years because I got some nice adventures out of it.

Seduction is the same way. Honestly I don't like this game either. The rules are so broken and biased and the female players are so overpowered that unless you got lucky with your starting stats and equipment, you need to min-max to grind like crazy to get anywhere.

But it's the only game in town, and there's not gonna be a 3rd or 4th edition in our lifetime. I've resigned myself to it, and decided to get as much fun out of it as possible. Besides, if we don't play to win, someone else will.

philosarapter · 2010-08-10T19:42:47+00:00

Life itself is a game.

To win is to survive and reproduce.

To lose is to die.

Everything else is simply strategy.

tactics · 2010-08-11T12:46:10+00:00

Why cant we all just be ourselves and be happy?

In sports, why can't both teams just let the other take the ball straight to the goal?

Attraction is a competitive sport. It's not as rigid as something like soccer, but you're still in on a team of one (or two) trying to score by the end of the night.

Being deceitful and underhanded is not necessary. It's like cheating or being unsportsmanlike or needlessly rough in a sport. It will win you games, but no one will like you for it. (And even with casual sex, winning isn't everything).

However, you have to be strategic. You can't run the ball down the middle of the field. You have to outmaneuver your opponents (other guys) and get the ball past the goalie (the girl).

Unrelated to that niftly analogy, to become good at dating, you have to be a man. Having a penis does not qualify you for manhood. You have to act like one. Being a "nice guy" isn't so much about being nice. It's about being non-assertive and submissive. It's not the asshole the girls want; it's the guy with massive levels of self-worth and self-entitlement. Nice guys typically don't.

Thac0 · 2010-08-10T20:02:50+00:00

Women play games.

We can too.

We're evening out the playing field.

D_rock · 2010-08-10T19:44:23+00:00

It isn't about being all alpha all the time in a relationship. Check out this for ideas on relationship game

MageYouLook · 2010-08-10T22:02:20+00:00

If you have to play any games you are doing something wrong. If you think any games exist they are ones you have made up.

There is high quality and low quality. You are one or the other. You can not act as though you are one or the other to get the results of being one or the other. You can become one or the other but pretending will never get you there.

Naturals don't play any games. You are obviously not a natural. You make up the game you play. Surely you understand the concept of quality so you must understand why people choose one thing over another. It seems your misunderstanding lies in how quality is determined.

Its easy to offer safety but girls want more than safety. Learn to improve on who you are so you have more to offer. Do not pretend. Do not act. Games are beta and by even having a concept that there is a game you will be trapped there. A person can not even play a game if you understand each aspect of their side.

Find out: - what people want - why they do what they do - what they actually mean when they say something - learn to see meaning passed the context

When you know how to respond to what is, instead of getting confused by your own bullshit you will see there is no game being played. There is no pretending. There is no being someone else to get what you want.

Learning new things and improving yourself and your understanding are so far off from pretending to be something your not. If girl's don't like you is it because you stop playing or because you just don't understand?

BearJew · 2010-08-10T18:12:14+00:00

There are no games. As you have stated in your post, you are a pussy. That is your problem.

thirteenthirty7 · 2010-08-10T19:28:19+00:00

They don't call it 'the game' for nothing..

tme001 · 2010-08-10T18:20:03+00:00

It's because you're a nice guy, and women want assholes. So, be an asshole. Well, not necessarily. Don't be a dick to people. What's the point of improving yourself then? Instead, be cocky and arrogant. There's a fine line between these to things and being a dickhead.

lookatmeimskinny · 2010-08-10T23:41:29+00:00

TheUltimateBeta, you forgot to log into your novelty account. You're still in "Thac0."

Title	Seddit... why the games?
Author	Thac0
Upvotes	18
Comments	78
Date	August 10, 2010 5:52 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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