Why is night game so difficult?

MineDesperate2920 · 2025-08-03T06:49:48+00:00

Having fun helps a lot. Easier said than done. It’s really more about gaming you’re self then gaming the girl. Get yourself having actual fun and you’ll do well by default

Prestigious_Water336 · 2025-08-03T06:26:21+00:00

Sometimes going outside to talk is better.

If you or her smoke say "you wanna go out and have a smoke?"

Or ask to go to a different bar.

shlomobo · 2025-08-03T07:10:05+00:00

Nightgame is different because the attention span is lower. You need to be more „entertaining“ and have a feeling for social constellations. Plus: You need to have actual social skills, especially when approaching groups and women with friends around. On the other side it‘s way easier because most people are social and introducing a little chat is easy.

Someone already asked if you like being in an club. You said no, so that is the problem. If you do not feel comfortable in a location you will hardly meet new people.

wheatnathan · 2025-08-03T09:03:16+00:00

women are at their most powerful in that environment. All dressed up and all eyes are on them. She can feel like Prime Rhianna in a room of homeless people lol. Men are constantly starring at them. Offering them drinks. She is very much the 'buyer'.

Some also just want to be left alone and chat to their friends.

You need to get lucky in more ways than one. Approach a girl who is naturally super social and friendly, AND if you want to actually get laid with her, be her type! She must think you are hot. If all of them things are in place, it can happen

I've seen guys with 'game' get brutally rejected again and again and again, even if they do end up pulling a girl at some point in the night.

It's a numbers game. Either embrace it and get thick skin, or find an easier way lol

Dandys3107 · 2025-08-03T09:19:18+00:00

In clubs you generally need to gradually get closer and closer, have a brief conversation by speaking right in the ear, maintain strong eye contact and just go for escalating the touch and a kiss. It's more about your hard sexual attractiveness and body language, there is really no philosophy there. About bars, I suggest to start interacting with different people as a warmup, then it wouldn't feel so hard to approach a beautiful woman for a conversation.

Captain_w00t · 2025-08-03T10:35:42+00:00

Each club/bar has quieter areas, moreover:

clubs are for dancing, you go there and dance. The magic happens on the dance floor
bars are for music and talking, you don’t need to yell
depending by the context, you don’t need to close immediately. You can set anchors with casual talking, then you can go to them later, when they are more open to talk. They already talked with you, getting back to talk is much more easier
talk with everyone, not just girls, you need to stay in a social mood for fun, not just hunting mood, that would kill thr vibes making you look like a poor creep

Fanzirelli · 2025-08-03T13:49:48+00:00

Body language is king in club game.

One of my old tricks/basic club game was to NEVER LEAN IN.

You can't hear her talking?

Point to your ear and mouth the words "I can't hear you"

She'll lean in to you.

There's probaly a lot of lil things like that you're not doing.

Cause if you can get the dance, that's 50% of the hard stuff out of the way already.

Girls see when you're dancing with other girls. And will approach you if you're doing it right. I.e not dancing overtly sexual but dancing like you're just trying to have fun, like dance battling the other dancers

racerr33 · 2025-08-03T07:45:27+00:00

Paul Janka, the one and only legend of pickup said this in his book about clubs/bars:

Bars/Nightclubs: not my forte. I have reason to suspect these places are nothing more than money-makers for purveyors of liquor, mops and salted nuts. There’s too much working against the man on the hunt in this type of environment. Women’s egos are boosted because they’ve spent hours getting dolled up so they look their best (or their friends tell them so). Male competition means that ten seconds before you arrived and ten seconds after you leave another dude will be in front of her maw. Male intention is transparent in the nightlife scene: all the girls know that we’re thinking with our smaller heads. Liquor doesn’t help, because we beer goggle and our crudeness really comes out. This leads to the Great Nightlife Irony: women adopt a defensive attitude amidst the very circumstances in which they have voluntarily placed themselves. It’s irrational and a stupid, predictable game. Don’t be a fool. Girls love the attention, no doubt, but they get all pretty, immerse themselves in the center of a bunch of drunken guys, and then complain about men hitting on them! Insane. It’s groupthink at its worst, and once you’re in the general category of “guy” you’ll be treated with a universal, dismissive policy. That’s why I avoid bars and clubs.

I agree with him 100 percent, this is why I avoid clubs/bars

Kylearean · 2025-08-03T07:37:53+00:00

The Golden Hour is really best. 5-7 pm.

Several-Two738 · 2025-08-03T14:51:52+00:00

You gotta get close to them and speak in their ear. There is a reason why they have the music so loud.

OmenDamien · 2025-08-03T06:27:26+00:00

No, it’s not.

Comprehensive-War-34 · 2025-08-03T06:47:10+00:00

Are you comfortable picking up in the club? The club is not for everyone.

tiodosmil · 2025-08-03T12:07:46+00:00

I like the comments I’m seeing. I’d also say @ night I feel like women are already prepped to get hit on a lot vs day game is more rare & exclusive

IslandMan01 · 2025-08-03T18:50:51+00:00

Mine is a weird transition, I loved going to bars and clubs before I went full swinger but now? I barely go and quite suck at it now, maybe I’m being harsh on myself but it’s semi true, maybe I should return, I liked dancing there and almost always made out with women there lol.

HistorianOk2573 · 2025-08-03T11:49:26+00:00

Women in the nightclubs don't care much about what you have to say to them because they know what you want already and thus don't appreciate the fact that you are pretending that you don't want that and are talking about some nonsense or pretending to be interested in who they are, when they know that sex is all you want.

You should be honest, and just tell them what you would like to do with them, you want sex? Tell them but not in a brief way, tell them exactly your sexual fantasy with a lot of descritive detail on how you would hold her neck, grab her thighs, caress her belly, whisper in her earlobe, and make her imagine the entire sexual situation...

Don't just say "I want to fuck you so hard or i want to enter my penis in your vagina so deep", instead be descriptive abotu how you would fuck her exactly, the sensations she would feel, how she would arch her back, how she would feel goosebamps, make it about how she would feel and react, make it about her pleasure, not about your pleasure.

Describe it in a way that she feels it's for her enjoyment, not for yours. You are not fucking her because you want release, you fuck her because you want her feel alive. Paint an image so vivid in her head that she just gets turned on and aroused thinking about it.

And because you are not pretending to be interested in who they are, at least it feels fresh to them. Some guy who is just honest, instead of manipulative guy who is hiding the fact that he just wants to fuck and pretneding instead to care about who she is. Because reality is many women just want sex, they don't care about you either, htey don't want to see you again, they don't want a boyfriend or a date, they just wanna have fun, fuck and forget you the next day.

So stop trying to figure out what to say to them, and just tell them how you want to fuck her, but it has to be really descriptive, it can't just be some brief phrase about you penetrating her until she cums. Describe how you would explore her body with maximum detail, even detaul about the room or the setting or how you would undress her to increase the erotic tension.

ThatDarnSmell · 2025-08-03T17:21:59+00:00

You don't have to go to bars or clubs if you don't enjoy the atmosphere, don't drink, and don't like the noise. I retired from them by around age 25 and haven't missed going. There are obviously plenty of other places you can go after dark.

Neat-Egg5659 · 2025-08-04T06:20:08+00:00

night game is harder because everyone's guard is up. alcohol/loud music creates chaos but also opportunity. i used to freeze up completely in clubs. what changed everything was realizing it's about energy matching, not pickup lines. approach when she's between songs/getting drinks. body language beats words every time in that environment

ImpossibleWaiting · 2025-08-04T22:35:43+00:00

It's supposed to be. It's loud to prevent talking and make you drink more. Clubs are designed to ruin your game. That's where your vocal cord training and physical flirting comes into priority.

Title	Why is night game so difficult?
Author	Ok-Honeydew2133
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Date	August 3, 2025 6:23 AM UTC (11 months ago)
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