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What's your bodycount?

Copepill

October 1, 2023
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Title What's your bodycount?
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Copepill

Upvotes 13
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Date October 1, 2023 6:09 PM UTC
(2 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/AllPillDebate
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Comments

[–]FunEducation1434six3manlet 12 points13 points14 points 2 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

0 and probably gonna kill myself soon

[–]Copepill[S] 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Avoid the ropepill, take the u/Copepill.

[–]FunEducation1434six3manlet 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What kind of copes do you partake in bro?

[–]Copepill[S] 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Video games, boxing, hiking, cooking, shitposting.

[–]FunEducation1434six3manlet 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Boxing. Based. I’ve got a Krava Maga gym literally down my street and they also offer kickboxing and regular boxing. Might check them out after I get my cardio up

[–]Copepill[S] 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I’ve got a Krava Maga gym literally down my street and they also offer kickboxing and regular boxing. Might check them out after I get my cardio up

Nice. I'd say avoid the Krav Maga stuff and focus their boxing classes. Krav Maga is a valid martial art, but the type of Krav Maga taught in western countries is usually bullshit. The issue with styles that focus on "real world" self defense is that they don't pressure test their shit. Like they'll teach you some wonky eye pokes and dick kicks, but it's useless if you're just role-playing with a dude who's standing completely still. At least with boxing you're dodging and throwing punches at full power.

[–]FunEducation1434six3manlet 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmm that’s interesting, didn’t know that about Krav Maga. Tbh I didn’t know much about KM to begin with, I just knew it by name

Yeah that’s what I was thinking, the boxing will teach stuff that’s actually practical irl.

[–]ZookeepergameTasty12 21 points22 points23 points 2 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Half of the male 1-10 probably count holding hands as a part of their body count

[–]A1_wA1shPurplePill -2 points-1 points0 points 2 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

nope i count my body count as eye contact😅

[–]ZookeepergameTasty12 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Lmao ov(er) for eyecontactcels

All sub5 men fall into two categories, incels or incels in denial. No guy who has a chance in life would be browsing obscure blackpill forums like r/AllPillDebate.

90% of the guys who chose 1-10 are full of bs. Probably once held hands with a girl in middle school and uses that to cope and deny about being a trucel. Being a genetic mistake is so brutal.

[–]Dapper_Level2915 -5 points-4 points-3 points 2 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

delusional

inc3ls and sub5 males have zero clue about actual blackpill due to no experience. its all theory for them.

it takes experience (that the average bluepiller also doesn't have) to really see blackpill.

i word things carefully on this subreddit because if I went full blackpill about things I've seen, some inkwells might actually *ope due to it being beyond their blackpill theory and chad/grannyfish usual stuff

[–]ZookeepergameTasty12 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Just go full blackpill bro. Dont hold back.

But I disagree that sub5s like me dont know about the actual blackpill. I mean your 6'1 lol, which is chad height. Being short is probably one of the most blackpilling experiences a man could endure.

[–]Dapper_Level2915 -2 points-1 points0 points 2 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

i was short until age 17 and although I saw some blackpill from being short, it was nothing like after growing

although I bet it would be extremely blackpilling to be short as adult as well. I didn't think about that.

[–]ZookeepergameTasty12 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I am median height (5'10) and sub5 face. I can assure you that being short is 100x worse than having a bad face. Its possible to cope with ugly face, but you can never cope with short height.

[–]bruhminer 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

5'10 is not short dude

[–]Caarlos72 -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It of course depends on your country, but I'm from Spain and nowadays like for our generation, 5'10 is on the shorter side

[–]bruhminer 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No it really doesn't dude, 5'10 isn't considered short anywhere, maybe with Netherlands being an exception or something but even there 5'10 would only be 2 inches shorter than average. Not tall does not mean short, global average height for men is like 5'9.

[–]FrostyTits82 -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

😅😅

[–]you-arent-reading-it 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

This poll actually tells that there are no females in reddit and that this sub is full of virgins.

I am a virgin man BTW

[–]AsianAssDick24 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What did you expect lol? No females ever have been on reddit and no females ever will

[–]Bacon-Waffles 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

IncelTear is full of Chads.

[–]you-arent-reading-it 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't expect anything, but it's funny that you highlight it

[–]onion_rings_addict -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This poll actually tells that there are no females in reddit

there are women on reddit they are just not here

WONDER WHY

[+]West-Advice -10 points-9 points-8 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s literally a neckbeard forum…

[–]Specific_Praline_362 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have never killed anyone

[–]bootyjuicer7 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahh man, that just makes me super sad. I feel really bad for my fellow men who are struggling this bad with modern dating.

[–]mewbestpokemanrace pill d*g pill granny pill AI pill s*x doll pill 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do esc*rts count?

[–]Copepill[S] 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Up to you but personally I don't count em.

[–]Ok-Bell3376BlackPill 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does it count if you pay for it?

[–]bruhminer 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even if you assume people are lying these stats are brutal.

[–]Substantial_Video560 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

24 escorts besides my regular! 😋

[–]Big-Resident7811 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Probably like 200 something I’m 6’5 and black tho

[+]BlueberrySharp3 -7 points-6 points-5 points 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

no sex before marriage

[–]five10manletit's over for manlets 14 points15 points16 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol religious cope

[–]kitterkatty 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That used to be my thing but his definition of marriage was a few dates. My bc is 2 and I think the average non-sorority type esp ESP religious upbringing even in mainstream churches is like 1 or 2 def not even close to 5 I hate it that people over exaggerate it. None of my cousins or family are over 5, except maybe a couple of them. Guys or girls.

[+]EugeneCezanne -8 points-7 points-6 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I always find this ironic, as sex predates even the concept of marriage.

[–]Crafty-Interest1336 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No shit Sherlock marriage was created as a commitment to God as an apology for eating from the tree of knowledge

[–]EugeneCezanne -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A better detective would be able to tell if you're being serious.

[+]saraimarsena -9 points-8 points-7 points 2 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link

ohhhhh okay makes sense now

[–]AccordingMistake6670 11 points12 points13 points 2 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

you’re just now figuring out that this is an Incel sub

[+]saraimarsena -11 points-10 points-9 points 2 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

incel? that was obvious. but virgin? blind leading the blind fr. the only play y’all get is this circle jerk.

the clear additional context that you guys are virgins discussing sex and relationships is amusing.

[–]AccordingMistake6670 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

incel? that was obvious. but virgin

“Incel” (involuntarily celibate) and virgin are synonyms. Are you illterate?

[–]saraimarsena 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

celibacy can actually apply to those who have had sex before!

someone who lost their virginity when they were in high school, who tries and fails for the next 5 years to have sex again is an incel but not a virgin.

someone who lost their virginity to an escort but can’t find someone to voluntarily have sex with them again can be an incel, but not a virgin.

incel “status” can come and go, but virginity is one and done.

not all incels are virgins and vice versa

[–]bruhminer 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Virgins and incels overlap most of the time, stop pretending you don't understand how this works.

[+]West-Advice -12 points-11 points-10 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sis you killing them! 😂

[+]A1_wA1shPurplePill -6 points-5 points-4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

no i’d say incels are what virgins like you call yourselves when you get resentful that you get no play

[–]Specific_Praline_362 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Young virgins who have limited experience have all the knowledge about sex, relationships, women, and life. Didn't you know? /s

[+]Generally_Confused1 -8 points-7 points-6 points 2 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Yeah kinda does lol. Any sub that allows "all pill" etc is generally filled with incels... I'm here for entertainment though

[–]Copepill[S] 17 points18 points19 points 2 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Typical woman thinking that having sex as a woman is some kind of accomplishment.

[+]Global-Nerve-381 -8 points-7 points-6 points 2 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Typical incel thinking having sex as a man is some kind of accomplishment

Edit: Typical incels blocking me before I can respond because the truth hurts and they love the taste of their echo chamber

[–]KeepCopingBuddyGRANNYPILL 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Typical whiteknight coming to the aid of random women like the cucked little dog he is.

[–]shadowcat211 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's normal people who created the idea that having sex means becoming a man.

[–]SubHum-Incelo-Finito 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is not accomplishment in both cases i would say.

[–]A1_wA1shPurplePill -2 points-1 points0 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

sex in general is an achievement.

[–]KeepCopingBuddyGRANNYPILL 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not for a female, who can acquire sex as easily as water.

[+]lostatlifecoach -9 points-8 points-7 points 2 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Is more than 10 girls a lot now days. or was this made by a high school kid?

[–]five10manletit's over for manlets 11 points12 points13 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

a lot for a subchad, meanwhile Chad gets to 10 bodies by sophomore year of HS

[–]AnyIntroduction3288 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If a 15 year old boy has slept with 10 girls, I would call CPS.

[–]Maractop 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Isnt the average around 6 partners? How isnt 10 alot?

[+]lostatlifecoach -9 points-8 points-7 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but the rolling average has cripples and autistic people in the mix bringing the average down. I'd assume if so sampled all normal guys it would be higher.

[–]EugeneCezanne -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As you see, most of the men here are at zero. "A lot" is relative. But I do think these pill subs skew young.

[–]Aafan_Barbarro 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just one would be a lot.

[–]DMacNCheez -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a true gigachad I’m over 100 😎

[+]West-Advice -11 points-10 points-9 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pfffhahahha explain the issue in these groups. Honestly I hope y’all a just a bunch of kids

[–]Generally_Confused1 -5 points-4 points-3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Huh did I get blocked?

[–]Complexity777 -2 points-1 points0 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cope

[+]UnknownAspectt -10 points-9 points-8 points 2 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I am Giga Chad I fucked bitches in my 20s AMA and I will belay my wisdom

Point of interest - it was a different time. If you were drinking regularly and around chicks and a 6 you got sex it was just way different in terms of how relaxed people were.

These days I wouldn't even approach women they are totally different so yeah.

[–]West-Advice 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Shit story time!

[–]UnknownAspectt 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol tbh there isn't much to say man online dating really fucked shit up for everyone.

Like for my own teen years we all just drank and smoked weed a lot and there were fluid large social groups like say 10 guys and a few women that made up the core, all friends, then ransoms would come and go or we would hang out with other groups of people by proxy.

So you'd just run in to chicks that way. Rn blackpill is supreme but honestly back then it was less of a factor than chemistry and convenience was. I was definitely not the best looking guy but not the worst either and I was always pretty fit, had a decent personality to be around and whatever I guess.

So yeah. It was just sort of like a convenience factor. Chicks still didn't want to get outed for sleeping around so guys with loud mouths got passed over a lot whereas introverted dudes actually got decent action lmao but the scenester emo stoner sluts all clamored toward the Chad's of the time because that type of person never changes. The highly conforming types always want Chad no matter what lol.

[–]luroot 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Maybe a better poll question to control for age is about how many new partners do you currently fuck per year?

[–]UnknownAspectt 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Fr.

Answer - 0 lol. I've had sex I think 4 times in 10 years.

As soon as I left the degenerate lifestyle and got my shit together it became real life and yeah. Whatever though. Better to be a decent person than an alcoholic criminal

[–]CryptoEscape 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My alcoholic criminal days were fun….just not sustainable.

[–]UnknownAspectt 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep

[+]Crafty-Interest1336 -9 points-8 points-7 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

A lot of liars in that poll

[–]A1_wA1shPurplePill -5 points-4 points-3 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

complete cope. contrary to your beliefs, men that aren’t “chads” can actually be with women and are usually better at it too

[–]Crafty-Interest1336 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah when they're beta buxxing but paying for it means you're an incel

[–]kukkle1111 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep.

[–]Generally_Confused1 -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Huh did I get blocked?

[–]West-Advice -2 points-1 points0 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Possibly but I see you

[+]ParadoxicalStairs -6 points-5 points-4 points 2 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

A big 0 for me 🙂

[–]Copepill[S] 9 points10 points11 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Same here 😃🔫

Oh wait you're 17f. Lmao.

[–]ParadoxicalStairs -5 points-4 points-3 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why is it funny? 🤨

[–]Copepill[S] 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lmao

[–]Strict_Decision_8449 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Nobody cares, you're a woman.

[–]ParadoxicalStairs -5 points-4 points-3 points 2 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

Why does my gender matter?

[–]CryptoEscape 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

Because according to Incel theory, female virgins could easily lose their virginity if they chose to.

While that’s true, it overlooks some critical factors:

1, Female biology won’t allow them to have sex and relations with inferior genetics (unless sufficiently compensated.). This feels like an existential threat to them.

2, Womens emotions often won’t allow them to be used for a one night stand, even with a Chad.

3, Some women are so awkward and/or ugly and/or obese, even Chad will give up trying

So while “femcels” don’t suffer as much as incels (they also have massive social support , and could change their situation easier) they still have legitimate grievances…just less of a grievance.

[–]ParadoxicalStairs 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

You’re so right, it’s scary 😟. But hasn’t this always been the case?

The huge problem I see nowadays is below average or average girls having unbelievably high standards in men. However, I’d like to exclude FAW from that group because most are aware of their looksmatch and rarely go for “Chads”.

[–]CryptoEscape 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Yeah it’s always been the case, but it’s gotten much worse with social media and dating apps.

Socially enforced monogamy (particularly arranged marriages), which allowed “one woman for every one man,” forced many women to go against their biology.

This allowed civilization to come about, but was an egregious assault on woman’s reproductive rights and autonomy. Naturally women eventually rebelled against it.

But as you said, women have become increasingly unrealistic about their options. So rather than just the bottom percentile of men being incels, men who years ago could have gotten a woman (even if only with the Betabuxx strategy), can no longer get a woman.

I’ve heard 25-30 % of men not having sex in the last year….that’s ALOT. Without video games, porn, and Reddit to numb them, they would be increasingly likely to resort to violence.

I don’t know enough about FAW to argue for or against that last point.

[–]ParadoxicalStairs 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

The west not valuing traditional family values and marriage have hurt both sexes too. I find it really strange how a lot of people nowadays glorify single parenthood like it’s an achievement, and also divorcing their partner for the pettiest reasons (like being bored). My parents are very traditional and we come from cultures where you would be shamed or disowned for having a child out of wedlock.

I find the modern dating culture really toxic because while it helped give women more power and options in relationships, it did so at the cost of the average guys and the below average girls. Its unhealthy when the top percent of guys have multiple girls orbiting around him, leaving a few for the regular Joes to fight over. Then, there are FAW who are practically invisible to most guys 😅. I also really dislike promiscuity and hypergamy in both genders. It creates a lot of hate and distrust between men and women.

Wow that’s a lot of guys not having sex. Does that number include guys who don’t have sex by choice?

I don’t have any statistics for FAW but I’ve read a few posts where they’re simply looking for someone who will treat them well. I rarely see any mentions of physical characteristics or income. I even knew a FAW who went out of her way to meet someone from Reddit by flying to his country, only for the guy to belittle her appearance.

[–]kukkle1111 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Then, there are FAW who are practically invisible to most guys

Bullshit. A woman couldn’t be invisible to men if her goddamned life depended on it. All of your FAW buddies have admitted to having to turn off their DMs because too many “creeps” (aka non-Chads) were trying to speak to them.

Here is just one man’s treatment by these “forever alone” women: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/zzzz0i/comment/j2fpoy0/

who don’t have sex by choice?

These don’t exist. If they can, they do.

I don’t have any statistics for FAW but I’ve read a few posts where they’re simply looking for someone who will treat them well. I rarely see any mentions of physical characteristics or income. I even knew a FAW who went out of her way to meet someone from Reddit by flying to his country, only for the guy to belittle her appearance.

This is all complete bullshit. You’re all attracted to the same, small minority of Chads just like every other group of women. They justify their choice to reject non-Chads by saying they’re all creeps, perverts, abusive, or someone who literally just crawled out of a sewer.

Really? They receive hundreds of DMs from men and they were ALL creepy abusive perverts? Every single goddamn one of them?

Bullshit.

[–]ParadoxicalStairs -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yes, women can be invisible to men. You know that unattractive, overweight girl you went to school with? She likely never went on a date in her life. Girls don’t even have to be overweight to be invisible. They could just be plain ugly and will never get attention from guys her entire life.

No, we’re not all attracted to Chads. Many FAW are aware of their status and know they can never attract that type of guy. I’ve read posts of women saying they tried dating short men, bald men, broke men, abusers, etc and they were still mistreated at the end.

The one FAW friend I was close to sent me a pic of her and her “bf” together and he’s far from a Chad. He’s from a poor country in Central Asia and when she flew over to meet him, he rejected her. And guess what? She kept trying to hold onto him. So please stop saying we’re all into Chads.

[–]kukkle1111 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She likely never went on a date in her life. Girls don’t even have to be overweight to be invisible. They could just be plain ugly and will never get attention from guys her entire life.

Bullshit. A woman will have options. Always. She just doesn’t like her options.

No, we’re not all attracted to Chads. Many FAW are aware of their status and know they can never attract that type of guy. I’ve read posts of women saying they tried dating short men, bald men, broke men, abusers, etc and they were still mistreated at the end.

Read the post I linked. These are lies they tell to justify not liking their options because they find their options to be unattractive. They ARE attracted to Chads, he’s just not attracted to them.

He’s from a poor country in Central Asia and when she flew over to meet him, he rejected her. And guess what? She kept trying to hold onto him

What are just the sheer odds of this being even remotely true? Why would she go to visit him if there was a chance he would reject her? What’s far more likely is that she was displeased with him than the other way around, didn’t want to seem shallow, so she screamed abuse and rejection.

This is all bullshit.

We know what your problem is: You have options for boyfriends, You’re not attracted to any of them. This conflicts with the “forever alone” label so to avoid seeming like hypocrites, you all claim the only men who give you attention are creeps, perverts, and decrepit old men who just crawled out of a dumpster.

It’s just not the truth. Call yourself “NGO Women” (No Good Options Women) or something because “forever alone” is not and will never be what you are.

[–]CryptoEscape 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Definitely agree modern dating culture has become toxic…by giving everyone too much freedom, female hypergamy and male polygyny have gotten out of control….and nearly everyone suffers for it.

It really is disgusting how we venerate single motherhood. Abortion is celebrated too…I’m not necessarily against abortion …,but celebrating it!? Seems evil.

Yes the average guys and below average women are the ones who suffer the most. Since joining this sub, it’s been really upsetting hearing just how much the incels silently suffer….and when they speak up, they’re just mocked as losers….it’s really disgusting!

I’m trying to learn more about how the below average women suffer, what the “femcel” really entails, what their plight is, female loneliness, etc.

I think one of my coworkers is a femcel….super awkward, very plain/frumpy looking, a bit tomboyish, very poor conversation skills (she can barely say hi to anyone, and it’s not because she’s conceited.). Like how is she supposed to meet a man like that?? Even if an equally awkward male incel tried to talk to her, she probably couldn’t even hold the conversation.

Yes I believe that number includes men not having sex by choice. But I think the majority of it is involuntary.

I’m still trying to understand more about why the FAW and incels can’t get together…..I’m sure the incels would be so happy to have someone , that they would treat them great.

I think it’s just female biology that won’t let them be with a genetically inferior male….as much as they hate being lonely, they’ll choose that over a relationship with genetic inferiority. Like their instincts won’t allow those genes to be passed on, even if it means they have to be alone.

That’s just a theory though, what do you think?

[–]ParadoxicalStairs 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I don’t mind reading vent posts from guys because its nice to see their views on modern dating culture. I dislike the posts that have a certain level of vitriol towards all women. It’s very off putting and is likely the main reason why FAW users are discouraged from visiting places like these. I also don’t think single guys are losers, because FAW are on the same boat too.

I would describe FAW as the invisible women. The unattractive, socially inept ones that don’t get any attention from guys. The ones who get treated like dirt or doormats by society. The ones who are still hopeful, long for a genuine relationship with someone they can spend their life with. And then there are those who are bitter from past experiences and have pretty much become “femcels”, or misandrists.

Your coworker does sound like a femcel 😔. Hopefully she’s taking steps to improve her situation because being single and lonely can be really damaging to your mental health. If she has a good circle friends, that can somewhat makeup for not having a partner.

The problem with incels and FAW getting together is the lack of mutual attraction. This has also been discussed at r/ugly several times. Ugly people just dont find other ugly people attractive. My FAW friend’s “bf” (idk how to describe him because he doesn’t like her back) isn’t even a chad or handsome, and he turned her down because he thought he could find someone prettier. This is after she flew to his country and met up with him in person 😑.

[–]CryptoEscape 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Exactly….it’s fine for them to vent, but the vitriol is off putting. Maybe I’m too forgiving of women, but it’s not quite their fault their biology makes it so hard for them to pair with good (but unattractive) men. I’ve heard many women say this wish they could date that good nice guy, and lament how they’re attracted to assholes….they just can’t help it.

I think socially inept is the key thing about the femcel. I’ve seen some ugly and fat women that are super friendly , flirty, and smily, and they do get men. Maybe not Chad, but they have plenty interested men who are at least average.

But the inept ones, like that girl at work, I just don’t see how they could get a man without first overcoming their social difficulties. That girl gets jumpy when someone so much as says a friendly hi to her….how the heck is she supposed to go through the whole romance process when she can’t even say hi??

Her mental health is probably terrible, but it’s hard to say for sure. She’s always closed off, in her own little world, looks at the floor, and doesn’t like people trying to talk to her. I feel bad for her, but trying to talk to her seems to make things worse.

Spot on about the ugly people still not being attracted to other ugly people. While I think it’s much harder for women to lower their standards, men struggle too also, past a certain point…..men may be able to go down to a 3, women may only be able to go down to a 5 (for example, it’s hard to give definite numbers)

Wow she even flew out to meet him…,sometimes that inadvertently pumps their ego a bit too much….”wow she flew out here to me, maybe I can get someone a bit prettier to fly out next time.” IDK.

This sub has made me much more aware of the incel and the femcel, their silent suffering

[–]Mitago1 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Definitely true, but i would like to mention that a lot of average/below average guys have pretty high standards for women. It's an issue for most people nowadays, we have very distorted idea how the average guy and girl should look. I would personally blame media :D, but it is what it is.

[–]kukkle1111 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but i would like to mention that a lot of average/below average guys have pretty high standards for women

Bullshit.

[–]ParadoxicalStairs 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I suspect social media warped everyone’s standards.

I have a question. What are their standards for women?

[–]Mitago1 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

From what i've heard from people around me, random chats with strangers and from what i've seen here on reddit, some of these guys say it's a deal breaker if the girl doesn't have perfect skin ( no acne, imperfections etc. ) while these dudes do 0 skincare or basic hygiene themselves or if the girl isn't skinny / fit with good curves, while they are on the chubby side themselves, these are just some examples. It is okay and even good to have standards, but at least have some standards for yourself too then.

Unfortunately media has warped our view on how the average guy or girl looks, because it's extremely easy to put a filter or two on and hide every imperfection you have and that's all you see on Instagram, facebook etc. , add makeup and the average girl without makeup irl looks dull, boring etc.

It doesn't help that we often compare ourselves with others online. Which often leads to self-esteem issues.I personally see this in some gym related posts.

[–]ParadoxicalStairs 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh darn, I have an acne scar on my chin that looks like a small cigarette burn. There goes my chances of being with a guy, huh? ☹️

Wouldn’t it be better if everyone goes after their looksmatch, instead of aiming higher? Going after someone out of your league almost always ends in disappointment. But it seems like most people have no clue where they belong on the attractiveness scale.

I’m guilty of always comparing myself to others, especially to K-pop idols, Japanese actresses, etc. And you’re right, all it does is harm our self esteem. I think this is a habit that is hard to break for a lot of people, because we always feel inadequate somewhere.

[–]Mitago1 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As i said previously that only some guys have these standards and mindset. Most ( at least i hope) go for their match or lower or a bit higher.

[–]Skynet_Mainframe 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait I meant make 0 I thought it meant 0 females

[–]fakachaka47 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Should i count getting head as a body or is it only penetration (male)

[–]Caarlos72 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would assume body count refers to penetration. So I personally wouldn't count it 👍

[–]uselessloner123 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

u/Copepill

Can you make a new poll that has stricter definition of intimacy? Like how many partners one has kissed or held hands with.

[–]InjectAdrenochrome 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty unsurprising stats. I wonder what age most people are on here. I'm guessing the average is like 22-24.

[–]Mitago1 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately 0, still hoping tho :D

[–]TheHarald16 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No surprises here...

[–]OneChampionship7736 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

34 😂

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