Female principal strip-searches innocent 10 year old boy, still has job

rykocolor · 2012-12-15T19:36:42+00:00

Holy freaking fuck! How is she not in a jail cell, let alone still have a job.

"Any staff member who has ever worked with me knows that I care for my students and that even when I have to discipline them, I love them.”

Right, that's why. She has already given her womanly excuse and it was readily accepted by nearly everyone.

I don't want to turn this into one of those "if a man did it..." things, but let's be realistic here. If a male principle of any age or background stripped a 10 year old girl down to her panties and nothing else, all fucking hell would break loose, it would RIGHTLY break loose. But she has a vagina, so we can't hold her to the same standards. She has a vagina, so of course she wasn't getting any sexual pleasure out of it which makes it ok (because, of course a man who does that is only doing so because he is a predator). She has a vagina, and says she loves her students no matter what, even when she sexually assaults them, so it's ok...

This is sexual assault, it is child molestation, it is a breach of his rights, and it is disgusting that something like this can actually be REPORTED ON BY THE NEWS, with zero denial from the perpetrator, and still the parents HAVE TO FILE A GOD DAMN LAW SUIT, instead of the police arresting this fuck! I mean...wow....

/angerrant

genno334 · 2012-12-15T20:27:24+00:00

Every pedophile ever has be quoted to saying, "I love them."

TheRealPariah · 2012-12-15T20:27:32+00:00

This is disgusting. The last time something like this happened, the case reached the Supreme Court, but because there was no clear law against it or legal precedent, so the principal, assistant, and nurse were ~~acquitted~~ (see edit 2). Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote a particularly compelling dissent.

Honestly, I cannot believe how children in the US are treated with such lack of respect as fellow human beings.

Edit: It's good that there's knee-jerk outrage against this. However, it's not because the victim was a boy that the principal was not fired. In a legal precedent, the male principal was not fired for ordering the strip-search of a 13-year-old girl (for ibuprofen of all things) because there was no law that apparently made this explicitly illegal. Not only did she take off her outer clothes, they pulled her bra and underwear from side to side, to see if contraband would fall out. Ginsburg, the only woman sitting on the supreme court at the time, wrote a scathing dissent. (Stevens dissented as well.) While the others mostly thought that searching the student for the pill (purse, pockets, etc.) was reasonable, and the body search was bad but not illegal, Thomas (I'm amazed the senate approved that nomination) thought the body search was justified, because, well, a pill can be hidden in small places like undergarments.

Edit 2: Sorry, I made an error, as pointed out by TheRealPariah (and who wrote the following), the principal was not "acquitted" but "shielded from civil liability under qualified immunity," and also this case means that it's unlikely this principal will not get in trouble. (It seems that TLO was

Edit 3: Several cases of strip searching have gone to court. I wonder if "this is unconstitutionally invasive" is in the training of teachers and principals.

fifi1234 · 2012-12-15T20:56:50+00:00

Holmes told the boy “he left her no choice and that she had to search him

blueoak9 · 2012-12-15T21:22:00+00:00

So, a person in a position of authority exploits a situation and lies to a child so that they can stick their hand in their underwear, away from friends and adults, whilst saying how much they love children... yet she walks free.

Fuck me, what a society we live in.

Ted8367 · 2012-12-16T00:09:21+00:00

Justin went under his lunch table to retrieve money dropped by a passing female student. After returning the found money to the girl, ...

No good deed goes unpunished

Mitschu · 2012-12-16T00:25:58+00:00

The parents of a 10-year-old boy have filed a complaint against his elementary school for allegedly conducting a strip search of the boy for lost money.

allegedly

In a complaint filed against assistant principal Teresa Holmes on Dec. 6, the family of Clinton, N.C., fifth-grader Justin Cox allege their son was ordered to remove his socks, shoes, pants and shirt so the principal could conduct a manual search for a $20 bill that was inevitably found in the cafeteria.

allege

(From Theresa Holme's Written Statement)

I told Justin to take off his shoes. I looked inside them and moved the tongue of each shoe from left to right. I told him to take off his socks. I turned them inside out and looked at both of them. I could see that Justin had on a pair of over-sized boxers. I told him to take off his jeans. I checked every pocket, the hem of both legs and the waistband. I ran my hands around the outside of the waistband of his boxers. I gave him his jeans to put back on. I turned his socks back right side in and gave them to him to put back on. I gave him his shoes to put back on. I could see that he had a t-shirt on under his shirt, so I asked him to take off his shirt. I checked the pockets on the shirt as well as the hem of the shirt tail and the hem of the sleeves. I asked him to pull up his t-shirt so that I could see under it. I gave him his shirt to put back on.

At this point, I knew that Justin did not have the money. I sat in front of him telling him that I was sorry that I had to search him.

admission to search

So... uh, when did we start referring to people who confess (and have multiple confirming eyewitnesses) as "allegedly" doing something?

I was wondering where all the "alleged"s that belong in front of those accused of rape had gone...

Always_Doubtful · 2012-12-15T20:23:06+00:00

Basically all the comments are saying to fire her ass and arrest her. If it was a man he'd be fired automatically.

No person should be strip searching a child for ANY reason.

Mitschu · 2012-12-15T23:42:33+00:00

This is a repost (edit: not OP, rather the media outlet), but it's interesting how much the language has changed. For example, no reference is given to the "importance of a good reputation" speech she gave him, or how he supposedly told her to search him, or how she claimed him to be a known liar.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/11221117/

gege33 · 2012-12-15T21:52:47+00:00

Not even a slap on the wrist..

kragshot · 2012-12-16T01:36:38+00:00

Interesting; according to my wife who is a teacher, that strip search was totally illegal and the principal should be in serious trouble for that.

Sexual issues aside, the principal did not have the authority to strip search anyone and the act was illegal. The fact that she is not being punished for this tells a lot.

ZimbaZumba · 2012-12-16T00:20:25+00:00

Reverse the genders and oh my there would be a fuss.

ThePigman · 2012-12-16T02:31:48+00:00

"and ran her fingers on his bare torso."

That's the most suspect thing about all this. Did she suspect the kid had secreted the money under his skin? Yeah, this case smells like something more than invasion of privacy.

Crimson_D82 · 2012-12-16T07:50:34+00:00

She needs prison time on the grounds of sexual assault and blackballed for the education field.

sdz_jp · 2012-12-16T16:59:45+00:00

I can't believe she defended her actions by saying "I love kids. I love being around them. . . Sometimes they don't want it, sometimes they don't understand what you're trying to do but they want to be disciplined." Whoops! Sorry. That was a Jerry Sandusky.

iamaom · 2012-12-16T00:45:24+00:00

and ran her fingers on his bare torso

Was she expecting to find a secret compartment inside his chest or something?

hidden_moose · 2012-12-15T23:59:56+00:00

This happened back in June, and from what I can tell she "retired" and is no longer working with children. However, she acted completely inappropriately and should have been fired and arrested.

If she were a man, her face would have been all over the news by now. So, in the interest of justice and equality, I'll just leave this here. Source.

2012-12-16T02:32:07+00:00

she then informed the boy that it was "within her rights to do so".

for some reason, I doubt this.

I doubt this a whole hell of a lot.

ThePigman · 2012-12-16T04:48:24+00:00

While i share OP's outrage over this, as far as i can tell she quit very soon after the incident.

2012-12-16T05:08:36+00:00

fucking north carolina again

HoundDogs · 2012-12-16T07:38:31+00:00

-Reverse the roles.

-Apply logic firmly.

-Would a man be in jail for doing the exact same thing to a female studnet?

-Yes - Put woman in jail

-No - Just kidding, there's no fucking way a man would be free after something like this.

TheDongerNeedsFood · 2012-12-16T07:49:37+00:00

This disgusting fucking monster needs to be in prison right the fuck now, getting the shit beaten out of her at every possible opportunity.

Wordshark · 2012-12-16T08:12:02+00:00

Holy shit, blast from the past. Do we really have to argue about this shit again?

galt88 · 2012-12-16T19:01:57+00:00

But, if the parent(s) were to bounce that principal's head off of every wall in her office, they'd be in the wrong...

NotARealAtty · 2012-12-17T22:02:53+00:00

Sounds like a slam dunk 4th Amend claim if this was at a public school.

circuitology · 2012-12-15T23:12:10+00:00

I don't know the US laws on this.

In the UK, a headteacher can search a student for stolen property.

To what degree they can search is unclear to me.

Like it or not, a 10 year old doesn't have very many rights at school, and the teachers while acting in 'loco-parentis' are more entitled than many of you seem to believe.

While you may not like the thought of being strip searched, this is a 10 year old, and while he may not have stolen anything, there seemed to be, from what I've read, a good case for thinking it was him. Children will also continue to lie once they have started, so not handing it over doesn't mean very much in regard to his guilt or innocence.

It may have been misguided on the teachers' part, but I don't think any of you can legitimately say that the teachers actions were perverse or disgusting.

It seems you have all judged her without knowing virtually anything about her, the boy, or the case. Whether or not a man would have been treated more harshly is not really the point.

Title	Female principal strip-searches innocent 10 year old boy, still has job
Author	EvilPundit
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Date	December 15, 2012 7:32 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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