Female Delusions of Fear

mrmensplights · 2025-04-05T06:00:01+00:00

Additionally, look up Women's fear of crime

studies consistently find that women around the world tend to have much higher levels of fear of crime than men, despite the fact that in many places, and for most offenses, men's actual victimization rates are higher.

Unfortunately, as is the style of the times, no one teaches girls these things, and no one ever tells girls that their feelings might be irrational. Instead, our endless validation has turns unwarranted feelings into justifications and rationalisations, and, ultimately, into policy.

DizzyAstronaut9410 · 2025-04-05T05:36:22+00:00

I had a legitimate argument with some female friends about how the trope of "Women can't walk alone at night!" Is kind of silly as statistically men are much much more likely to experience any form of violence committed by strangers. I'm not saying walking at night is necessarily safe for anyone, but it's not like men are magically safer, in fact quite the opposite.

This then shifted their argument to "Well yes buuuut WOMEN ARE CONDITIONED BY SOCIETY TO BE MORE SCARED SO THEY STILL DON'T FEEL SAFE". And it's like, yes and who exactly is telling women they have to be afraid of everything and that every single man is out to get them?

Spoiler, it's feminism.

Upper-Divide-7842 · 2025-04-05T09:11:53+00:00

I'm actually not entirely unsympathetic to womens position here.

They are smaller and weaker and thus, logically more attractive targets for a criminal.

And there's also the rape thing. I mean if we use feminist methodology of classifying every slightly dicy sexual encounter as rape then it seems men are about as likely to be raped as women.

But rape of the "scary guy jumps out of a dark alley" kind while it may be the least common type is pretty likely to only be happening one way.

What I don't have sympathy for is feminists claiming that our society is set up socially to victimise women when in reality the truth is the opposite. You can look up videos of criminals admitting they only target men because to do otherwise is dishonourable.

It's hardly uncommon for a man to beg for his life by saying "I have a wife and family" the pretty obvious conclusion to this being that even the threat of secondary harm coming to a woman is considered more compelling than the immediate threat to the man.

And, of course, there are studies that show people are much more likely to accept instrumental harm being done to a man than a women.

And we recognise these values in our own lives and in ourselves. Everyone had the "never hit a girl" thing drilled into their heads as kids.

However, don't know that a social value like this is necessarily enough to counteract the natural incentives i mentioned previously. Criminals are likely to be a group that is resistant to social conformity.

So while it's true that women are less often victimised than men you also have to factor in the fact that women's fear (which is likely still disproportionate to the actual danger) causes them to modify their behaviour (likely excessively) and that may, in part or in the main, be what causes them to experience less victimisation.

It's entirely possible, though it's difficult to tell, that if they weren't as paranoid they may be victimised as much as, or somewhat more so, than men. Though it can be just as easily being argued that their victimisation rates would increase but not enough to rival mens.

All in all I would say it is not necessarily women's fear of crime victimisation that is irrational it's the paranoid fantasy that society is conspiring to victimise them that's irrational.

That said, what I don't believe at all is the claim made by the women in the video that, when asked, every woman, or near enough, in her seminars, was in a life threatening situation (or even felt that she was in life threatening situation) that day.

If women were having their lives threatened at a rate of 70% - 100% every day then logically at least some portion of those threats would go through and, as a result, women would be dropping like flies.

But they aren't.

So it's not happening.

And I don't think I believe that the average woman is so delusional as to perceived a life threatening situation that doesn't exist on a daily basis.

Maybe it's something particular to her audience.

RikuAotsuki · 2025-04-05T09:09:08+00:00

There's nothing wrong with the fear itself; that feeling is valid. The issue is when they then insist that men have no reason to fear being alone at night or whatever.

Because the thing is, we all feel significantly more vulnerable alone at night. The specific fears involved are essentially the way our minds justify that vulnerability. It has nothing to do with actual frequency; it's more of a "if I had a violent encounter right now, what would it be?" situation.

Women see rape as the scariest realistic possibility, so that's what they go with. Men tend to assume they'd be robbed at gunpoint or murdered, or something along those lines. Children generally assume monsters.

Point being, criticizing that fear as delusion isn't all that helpful. Instead, try to push the idea that everyone experiences that kind of fear, and that its intensity has nothing to do with how likely it is to come true.

_name_of_the_user_ · 2025-04-05T13:56:20+00:00

We're all being taught to fear each other. White men are being taught to fear brown immigrants. Brown immigrants are being taught to fear white people. Women are being taught to fear men. Christians are being taught to fear and LGBTQ. Republicans are being taught to fear Democrates. Democrates are being taught to fear Republicans. MRAs are taught to fear feminists. The more we fight with each other the less we can fight the class war that is being waged upon us.

2025-04-05T15:24:03+00:00

Women I think enjoy being afraid. It makes them feel important and special thinking all these big strong men are constantly after them for a variety of reasons.

Most men ( when I say most I mean the overwhelming majority) do not want to hurt women. They want to impress women so they willingly want the man. That’s why men target other men in part to show dominance and strength over other men. Women who don’t understand this are… you know.

Haunting-220 · 2025-04-05T21:50:32+00:00

This is the truth — and I genuinely feel the same way. The truth about women is rarely told anymore. Society paints them as morally superior, nurturing, and pure — but beneath that image lies something far more complex. And yes, it is complex. Women aren’t weak or passive; they are strategic, instinctive, and deeply aware of their influence. While men often fall in love with a fantasy, women move through reality — using emotional intelligence, perception, and psychological precision to adapt. Their grace and beauty aren’t ornaments — they’re tools, forged in a world that gave them no formal power but countless reasons to survive.

Most relationships are built on mutual illusions. Men idealize; women strategize. What we call “love” is often a quiet war of instincts, where power and desire are always at play beneath the surface. Women, denied power by tradition, became masters of subtle influence. What many call submissions were actually survival — patience, humility, and sacrifice used to preserve space in a world built to silence them.

But now, that system is breaking. Social media and cultural shifts have disrupted the old rules. As women rise in independence — no longer needing validation, protection, or income from men — many men feel unprepared or even threatened. The roles are changing, and so must the mindset. We need to stop clinging to fantasy, resentment, or control. Real connection starts with raw truth. A relationship today must be built on mutual strength, not illusion. This is the modern world — and everyone must evolve with it.

63daddy · 2025-04-06T04:07:18+00:00

People react based on their perceptions of risk (fear), which often are not born out by actual statistical risk, so altering people’s perceptions is a very powerful tool which of course is where propaganda comes in, something feminists have become very good at.

Men are overall more likely to be victims of violent crime than women and far more likely to be murdered yet there is this perception that women face greater risk which is simply not born out in statistics. However, we see biased survey information claiming one and four college women are raped and biased RAINN information similarly over inflating sexual assaults against women. Add such propaganda to a society that is already gynocentric and the result is huge biases.

KPplumbingBob · 2025-04-06T07:16:30+00:00

For women the important thing is how they FEEL about something, not what the reality is. I saw a post by UK cycling a couple of days ago about women "not feeling safe cycling" and how twice as many men cycle which is "unacceptable" to them. It does not say anything about men being any safer, they just want changes to the infrastructure to make women FEEL more safe so maybe then they will cycle more.

DentdeLion_ · 2025-04-05T12:11:31+00:00

devil's advocate here : it's actually because it's ingrained in women from a young age (before feminism we still heard both parents tell their daughters to be careful about strangers, especially mean - and tell their sons to protect their sisters / as messed up as it is) that they take precautions and are apparently less likely than men to be victims of a violent crime. However seems fitting to recall that perpetrators of rape (no matter victims and agressors gender/age) are more likely to already know their victims rather than being a total stranger.

ZookeepergameNext967 · 2025-04-08T18:28:59+00:00

A girlfriend of a friend apparently is terrified of rape despite saying she's never had any such experience and no other types of abuse from men. I think for many it's just something to make them feel more valuable and important. Despite initially finding it bizarre, her boyfriend is now digging it as it allows him to step into a role of her protector and knight in a shining armour. What you assume are irrationality and delusion I believe are actually strategies to increase self worth and get attention.

toymachien3 · 2025-04-05T12:39:40+00:00

Are there also male delusions of safety?

Clan-Destin · 2025-04-05T14:15:32+00:00

Hi, The subject interests me, are there any sources to share?

JJnanajuana · 2025-04-06T08:12:54+00:00

I noticed this in the body cam that came out of Sam Kerr's arrest.

Her wife was legit scared that the taxi driver was kidnapping them. She kicked out his window (and was willing to pay for the damage once they arrived at the copshop. But Kerr wasn't willing to pay for it claiming that her misplaced fear justified committing criminal damage, and that they shouldn't have to pay for it, (depriving a taxi driver of his income for a while.)

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2025-04-07T01:03:17+00:00

Read the commentators of the video to understand;) my father wouldnt let me go have a night out when i was 17 i didnt understand what "dangers" were there but he said men can do very bad things to woman and night time is the best for predators. If you dont teach your daughter some values she will get traumatized just saying. But you dont seem to care abt woman at all anyways.

Pojebanina · 2025-04-08T13:17:55+00:00

Fear is an emotion. You don’t have to agree with the reason why someone feels it, but showing sympathy can be helpful. Empathy doesn’t mean you agree — it simply means offering emotional support. It’s effective because empathy helps people feel seen and safe, which can calm their nervous system and reduce emotional intensity. This creates space for connection, trust, and more constructive dialogue.

Gengis-Naan · 2025-04-13T00:49:02+00:00

I remember the 1980's. Believe me women were scared then too.

Gengis-Naan · 2025-04-13T00:52:57+00:00

Has anyone here mentioned women are smaller than men? Perhaps that has something to do the fear?

shmirnoff · 2025-11-29T03:42:05+00:00

Did you ever think that its precisely BECAUSE women exercise far more caution, like not going out at night alone, that they are experience less violence than men? That fact that you say men are experiencing so much violence indicates that women DO have something to fear.

It's also worth noting that women are physically weaker so even if they're statistically less likely to encounter violence by a male stranger, most women probably feel that there is a 100% chance they'll lose 100% of any and all encounters. So a woman's feeling of total defenselessness rationally translates into increased fear. Plus the threat of sexual violence is greater for women (I assume), and this may be particularly distressing.

That being said, I am a woman who goes anywhere at any time of night by herself because I would rather play the odds than give up my independence. And I tend to agree that people in general irrationally fear things that statistically have a much lower probability of happening than their imagination would have them believe.

However, although I've thankfully never been a victim of violence, I will admit that I've been followed on a few occasions and there's something about the way men sometimes look me up and down and make passing comments that makes me super uncomfortable when I'm alone. I generally assume most of these men who stare or make lewd comments won't ever act on anything, but I do understand why all the unwanted attention women experience when they're alone gives them a heightened sense of fear.

I often tell women the same thing you do, that they're fear is unwarranted from a statistical standpoint, but then I wonder if all women behaved like me whether the stats would go way up 😂

EDIT: I see that you say the CDC says men are just as likely to be raped but thats not what I see. I would like to see a source but I also see now that this post is from 8 months ago so I don't even know if I should be commenting at this point 😅

Key_Criticism_4290 · 2025-04-05T06:26:00+00:00

Not arguing with stats, just keep im mind women are physically weaker and the more vulnerable have always been targeted in nature (which includes us). So although statistically men are more likely victims ( which there may be many reasons for), psychologically/biologically women are prioritized prey by evil men. It’s been hammered into their minds over centuries. Only recently is it statistically safer (which doesn’t mean safe) for women. I do realize that, that specific fear is overhyped. But things like that do happen from time to time. I wouldn’t recommend anybody walking around late at night weaponless.

Present_League9106 · 2025-04-05T12:54:14+00:00

The number one perpetrators of violence are men. So men are victims of violence at the hands of other men. Women are also victims of violence at the hands of men.

Your experience is yourexperience but don’t ignore the reality of the situation.

RevolutionaryRip2504 · 2025-04-05T16:11:07+00:00

men are scared of being victims of violent crime by other men, and women are afraid of men. who's the problem here? I think fear is rational, but the actions around it (ex hating men) isnt.

Title	Female Delusions of Fear
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Date	April 5, 2025 4:47 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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