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Equality: You're Doing it Wrong.

revlionheart

December 1, 2015
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Title Equality: You're Doing it Wrong.
Author

revlionheart

Upvotes 843
Comments 95
Date December 1, 2015 2:58 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3v04jt/equality_youre_doing_it_wrong/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/equality-youre-doing-it-wrong.965995
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[–]kommissar_chaR 103 points104 points105 points 10 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

do they think white guys are all Dark Lords of the Sith?

they throw around shit like "if you have the most power" like white guys will just force lightning everyone else who tries to contribute.

[–]Captaincastle 73 points74 points75 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Can i get an instruction manual for all this power I'm supposed to have?

Brb let me get back to my shit job so i can pay taxes and get zero benefit from the state for being a single white childless male, where a girl could say i grabbed her tit in the hallway and I'd be gone before you can say equality.

[–]ChilliWillikers 18 points19 points20 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Well if she's going to say you grabbed it, you might as well grab it, for real, because titties.

[–]SigmundFloyd76 30 points31 points32 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So my ex made false and spurious accusations of domestic violence as a tactic in a divorce settlement. Basically I was branded a "wife beater". 18 years we were together and in spite of her aggression and instability; I never ever hit her. Seriously.

So I had a long enjoyable daydream recently where I actually got to fucking smack her a few times. Everybody thinks I did it anyway, although never convicted; still I was treated as guilty until innocent without ever being offered an avenue to defend myself. For all the trouble and social penalty I suffered, I really and truly might as well just fucking clock the deceitful and greedy cunt.

I hereby coin the "Jones Clause".

Jones clause: If you have been falsely punished for a crime you did not commit, you can invoke your right to the "Jones Clause" and actually commit said crime without further punishment.

[–]Wyld_Stallions_Rule 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can't be tried twice for the same crime.

[–]bestnamesweretaken 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Trailer Park Boys fan?

[–]ChilliWillikers 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Actually I've never watched it :/

[–]bestnamesweretaken 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a great show IMO, and in one scene they accidentally break in to a liquor store, and one character starts stealing stuff anyway, after noticing a camera. He's says something like " goddamnit there are cameras and the cops already hate me, so I'm going to jail anyway. Might as well steal some Shit for later, no sense in going to jail for stealing stuff and not getting anything..."

[+]honeycombs -12 points-11 points-10 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

aaaanndddd the men's rights movement in a nutshell.

[–]WolfShaman 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm curious. Since you are apparently against men's rights, why do you post here? I mean, I could understand if you said something that contributed, but you just bash on it. Why not show a dissenting opinion that opens up discussion? Of course, it's always better if you're willing to acknowledge other viewpoints as being valid.

[–]ChilliWillikers 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was a fucking joke.

Is it so difficult to imagine a scenario where you are falsely accused of something, take the heat and the licks for that false accusation, only to finally say fuck it and do that very thing you've already been raked over the coals for? How is this indicative of the entirety of the men's rights movement?

Try harder next time, you awful jackass.

[–]kaliwraith 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They define power as power over others, which implicitly denies agency to the "victims" of the power exchange. In reality, very few people actually have any measure of power over others that isn't job related authority.

When you define power as power over one's own life, it is easy to identify real injustices.

[–]perverted_alt 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes they do. And "they" is a big group.

You know how often I hear things like,

"Politicans are too old and white".

"Washington is too old and white".

"Too many CEOs are old and white".

"The NRA is too old and white".

Etc.

Why? Because they have statistically equated that demographic with the likelihood of a certain belief set.

And, that's okay to an extent, but not in a world where you can't even begin to discuss demographics as a white male without immediately being called a racist or a sexist.

Just broach the subject of the % of black people that voted for Obama. Just broach the subject. I dare ya.

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[–]perverted_alt 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Discrimination (to me) isn't a problem. It's a natural human response on an individual level.

When I throw a party, it's not an open invitation to my area, it's my friends who are largely like me.

When you see a commercial of a party with 20 people and 8 are white, 4 are asian, 4 are black, 4 are hispanic - 4 of which are gay and 7 of which are women - it's a ridiculous fiction!

The problem is institutional and government discrimination, the idea that you don't have equal protection under the law, which is a founding concept of this nation.

So, institutional and government discrimination was the real problem during the civil rights movement, when blacks were sent to the back of the bus, couldn't drink from the same water fountain at a public park, school segregation.

Now, institutional and government discrimination is still the problem, but just for a different subset of the population.

I give no fucks if some feminist blowhard wants to hate men in a op-ed piece. I give MANY FUCKS when guys are presumed guilty until proven innocent of a rape charge.

Likewise, I'm 100% for gay marriage, but totally against the idea that some cake maker can get sued because she didn't want to service and attend a gay wedding.

/rant

[–]cuteman 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

do they think white guys are all Dark Lords of the Sith?

they throw around shit like "if you have the most power" like white guys will just force lightning everyone else who tries to contribute.

You underestimate my power!

[–]garglemesh42 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What are we supposed to do when a woman hijacks a meeting and won't let anybody else get a word in edgewise?

If that were a man, obviously the answer is to interrupt all you want. ..but if it is a woman, suddenly interrupting them when they're rambling on about their last vacation instead of talking about the meeting topic is ... forbidden?

As if we didn't have enough double standards, they had to go invent more of them!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"UNLIMITED POWER!!!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_DqV1xdf-Y

[–]Connor_mcb 149 points150 points151 points 10 years ago (42 children) | Copy Link

I feel this is more suited to /r/tumblrinaction

[–]revlionheart[S] 37 points38 points39 points 10 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

Did not know about this, thank you!

[–]Captaincastle 67 points68 points69 points 10 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Be careful, that place can make you angry fast. Take breaks.

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[–]Rafoie 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Be salty, my friend.

[–]Captaincastle 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't always rage, but when i do? It's /r/tumblrinaction

[–]Sinsilenc 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Aww i see you lost your first toucan

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[–]Sinsilenc 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Basically a polite way of saying you lost it or wtf moment.

[–]itgscv1 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Don't bother, place is getting taken over by sjw. They have a stickied post saying bashing of straight white males is not Tia material anymore so this post would get removed by the new mods.

[–]FreeBroccoli 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I don't see this thread. Can you link to it?

[–]itgscv1 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Ahh I see they removed the sticky

[–]FreeBroccoli 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for linking me. That didn't seem like SJWs though. Just clarifying that TiA is about bizarre claims, not just hating white men. Be cautious not to see malice where there isn't any.

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[–]FreeBroccoli 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm on that subreddit rather frequently, and I'm just not seeing it. Do you have some specific examples?

[–]itgscv1 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How is white people suck not Tia material? That's literally what's all over sjw tumblrs right now. They didn't say other things in addition, they said it's not Tia material which is the part people have a problem with.

Considering what's happening on college campuses, blacklivesmatter, and all the hate towards white males.

[–]FreeBroccoli 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

TiA is about making fun of SJWs, but that doesn't mean any stupid post by an SJW is TiA material. "White men suck" is par for the course for them; it's not entertaining at all. TiA is for the content that is extreme and shocking. The purpose of that rule seems to be to ensure that the sub is stocked with fresh content, rather that the same things over and over again.

[–]itgscv1 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So are you saying stuff like killallwhitemen is now not shocking enough to be included? If people don't want to see that they won't up vote it.

Just because some people say it's not entertaining because it's so common doesn't mean it isn't material for the sub. Most posts only get 20 or so votes, very few get hundreds or thousands.

[–]CurdledBabyGravy 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you've ever browsed /r/all you'd see it all the time. I only browse /r/all because I'm a loser.

[–]awksomepenguin 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually think they opted out of being in r/all.

[–]Wyld_Stallions_Rule 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Take that sub in small doses, you'll want to throw your phone / computer out the fucking window after a few minutes

[–]TacoNinjaSkills 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, this is TiA material, not MR.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Better off going to /r/TumblrPls as TiA is turning into the same thing it once mocked.

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[–]Darkionx 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Tumblr is a site filled with SJW and Feminazis.

[–]Planner_Hammish 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And porn. Get's the whole spectrum really.

[–]aoki-lapis 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Tumblr is also home to all the weirdest fandom circles

[–]Oftowerbroleaning 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

The mods at TiA have been taken over by full on SJWs.

[–]Lethario 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Source?

[–]Oftowerbroleaning 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

My personal experiences with them

[–]Wordshark 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Then examples?

[–]itgscv1 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The stickied post saying people bashing straight white males isn't Tia material anymore.

[–]Wordshark 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Only sticky I see is announcing the moratorium on posts about the Paris attacks. Do you know who posted it, maybe we can find it through their submissions page...

[–]itgscv1 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Gammaking, post archive here

[–]Wordshark 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well that's terrible.

[–]Captaincastle 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Lol how do you mean? I unsubbed a while back so I'm out of the loop.

[–]awksomepenguin 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wouldn't say TiA has become what it mocks, I'm still subbed to it and TumblrPls. There was a bit of a falling out between a number of the mods of TiA a few months ago. One of the more popular mods resigned as a mod of TiA and created a new subreddit called TumblrPls. Pretty much the same thing but with less mod drama, it seems.

[–]Nulono 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*;

[–]Popular-Uprising- 21 points22 points23 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you find yourself to be the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room. This goes triple for social networking "rooms".

[–]bestnamesweretaken 29 points30 points31 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

It's like straight white dudes are the new Russians in video games. Always the bad guy because we aren't going to protest and kill people when we are, but it's still frustrating at the idiocy. If they are going to be so obviously bigoted I invite all of them to never use anything created by a straight white guy again.

[–]Captaincastle 20 points21 points22 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The Russians were like the designated bad guys in America for like 25 years, across all popular media. It's hilarious.

[–]bestnamesweretaken 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"The Red Scare" never ended... (the ride never ends)

[–]Captaincastle 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

WOLVERINES

[–]NetContribution 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

That's how I felt about Bioshock: Infinite. A beautiful game...where you run around killing WASPs.

[–]Whisper 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And at the end, the person you went through all that effort to save and protect decides to murder you.

Come to think of it, it's a perfect metaphor for being an SJW "ally".

[–]Bwhitty23 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is that bad? That was the point of the game. The game took place in a specific time. Also towards the end the villain became a black(?) woman once they went to the other time.

[–]bestnamesweretaken 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

WASPs? I'm confused...

[–]NetContribution 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

White Anglo Saxon Protestants..

[–]bestnamesweretaken 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

oooohhhhhhh! I googled it and nothing but splicers came up haha

[–]NetContribution 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Really?? That's tragically coincidental. :(

[–]bestnamesweretaken 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn shame

[–]copper_chicken 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. They should be banned from it, in fact.

[–]StarsDie 25 points26 points27 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Jane, talking about her cats and her nephews at a business meeting is perfectly acceptable of course.

[–]Blutarg 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some people are more equal than others.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"White men should be ashamed if they happen to be objectively the most intelligent, competent and confident people in a room, because the patriarchy makes me doubt myself because I have blatant penis envy."

[–]GeneralDogsbody 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So... Is this why my new assistant won't shut the fuck up?

Why she'd think we want to hear her thoughts on a subject she's no experience in and interrupting the CEO and clients to throw in here 2 cents?

FFS. 2 cents is at best a rounding error. GTFO of here whilst we spend some real money on the conversation.

[–]Captaincastle 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I liked blues responses lol

I'm pretty sure blue is the friend zoned guy.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Got a source for this? I would love to have that info in my back pocket.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

are the white dudes "taking up space" or are they carrying the meeting while Timid Tammy facebooks on her phone?

[–]Chef_Lebowski 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, person. I will NOT apologize for my skin color or my non-existent history or my gender. Fuck you. Die.

[–]Akesgeroth 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of an exercise we had in a class I had like 6 years ago. The teacher gave us a hypothetical scenario where our plane crashed in the Arctic and we had limited supplies and no way to radio for help. We had to decide what to do to survive.

Me and like three others tried to organize things. The discussion immediately degenerated: Two of the initial "organizers" insisted that decisions had to be taken "as a group" and consulted everyone on what to do. They were voting on everything and when the vote wasn't unanimous they just argued more and more until it was just total chaos. Lasted nearly 20 minutes. Teacher was laughing her ass off the whole time.

Meanwhile, I and the other "organizer" went off on our own, ignoring the others with two or three other people. I made a list of what we had, the possible use for each, and our priorities and capacities. When the teacher stopped the exercise, the "primary group" (about 20 people) had taken about three decisions, all three of which were fucking terrible (using our only shelter to start a fire, throwing the knife away because they were scared it might be used wrong and giving all our resources away to the gravely wounded to try and keep them alive). Meanwhile, the four of us had established how to make a shelter, how to get heat, what our odds of rescue were, how to maximize them, etc.

Democracy is a piss poor system in those situations. Not everyone's opinion and experience is worthwhile.

[–]RUoffended 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Poor minority girl's ideas weren't as good as her evil white male coworker's :(

Abolish white male privilege and discriminate against merit for the sake of affirmative action and cultural appropriation!

[–]UnhingedSalmon 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

HEAR HEAR! The day this happens is the day I finally truly become unhinged.

[–]CornyHoosier 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting. I learned from my mother to not let stupid people take up too much of your time.

[–]Stalgrim 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If it's collaborative and I'm doing most of the talking, you're not doing your part.

[–]The_Fat_Lannister 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's as if they think there's no other space, and that there's a shortage of space.

Even if there was only a given amount of 'space' for humanity to be involved in, said 'space' that is higher than other peoples' 'space' must be earned, or else said 'space' is useless. For an extreme metaphor, it's like replacing a white athlete in the olympics with an overweight and diabetic Native American because, y'know. Space.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They did most of the talking there.

Projection at its finest.

[–]Leinadro 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh so what someone says no longer determines things its just who is talking.

[–]TheRavenousRabbit 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm white but I'm also gay... So, that makes me able to speak more, right? No? I really don't know how this oppression Olympics work.

[–]Wyld_Stallions_Rule 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've got a feeling that a movement of white males is on it's way to manifesting in this country.

[–]nude_peril 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's not such thing as a "collaborative meeting".

[–]Ovendice -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

White men invent and build everything and on average not just 1000 times more intelligent and inventive, but work a million times harder, as in everything around you and every invention of any significance. Why would you want to listen to someone who doesn't do anything or barely contributes? What would you even have to learn from someone like that? What, of any substance or importance would they even have to say? How they feel about something? Something they are not even contributing as much to because they're lazy? I can't think of anything I've ever learned from a female she wasn't reading out of a book.

[+]jasiones -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

im sure if women cherry picked guys' facebook posts they can find a lot of disturbing posts towards women.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Filled with the wrong word choices, naturally.

[+]jasiones -6 points-5 points-4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea

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