The age at when men peak.

disposable_pants · 2015-12-15T01:12:10+00:00

When TRP says that a man's SMV peaks in his 30s they're talking about men who stay in shape, work on their career, and learn how to talk to women. When TBP criticizes this idea they think of social robots in dead-end jobs with beer guts. Obviously TRP is not claiming that guys who pissed away a decade of their lives will peak in their 30s. When TBP trots this idea out it's nothing more than willful misunderstanding.

[deleted] · 2015-12-15T00:49:20+00:00

Depends if they let themselves go or not. Muscle growth is a slow process. 15 years of weight lifting will most likely yield better results then 2 years of lifting.

On the other hand, 15 years of fast food will yield a much bigger belly then 2 years of fast food

your_mom_on_drugs · 2015-12-15T12:56:24+00:00

Young men are cute. Older men are captivating. Old men are sweet.

[deleted] · 2015-12-15T10:23:35+00:00

It's wishful thinking.

It may be the case for guys who go to TRP, who are socially awkward and out of shape; it's like saying to a fat person, if you work hard now, you will be more attractive in the future.

However, they will not ever experience anything like socially outgoing, attractive guys who fucked around at university, they will never have that.

ProtoPill · 2015-12-15T00:25:49+00:00

Now that women are looking to settle down, a lot of the traits average guys bring to the table, steady job, loyal, courteous etc. make them more valued.

RDS, these are RMV traits, not SMV traits. TRPers often confuse the two. Sexual Market Value traits relate solely to your attractiveness to a woman regarding sex, and neither your pocketbook nor your STEMLord degree do it for her.

That being said, I believe TRP is right that the male apex is somewhere in the 30s. I remember when I was in my early 20s, fresh out of high school and in the fraternity culture. Neoteny was abound. I see it on the 20-somethings today; the neoteny is obvious and, frankly, unattractive to most women outside of their peer group. Once men reach their 30s, a lot of the neoteny fades, and they begin to look like men. Plus, of all the guys I know, they are at their best shape in their 30s. Hell, I am twice as strong and fast as I was in my twenties. I eat cleaner, I lift heavier, and I run harder than I ever did when I was in college.

cxj · 2015-12-15T00:36:25+00:00

I'd say physically, late 20s-early 30s are mens peak. When men of this age have been striving hard to get their lives set up in a certain way, have physical fitness, money, style, and developed more confidence and charisma via life experience, this is when most of them peak overall in attractiveness to women.

[deleted] · 2015-12-15T07:32:31+00:00

Some men peak in their early/mid-20s because they're naturally good looking, athletic etc and their "Alpha male" behavior(being the loudest, dominating male hierarchy, drawing attention to himself etc) works very well on women until they're past their early twenties (21+).

I think most men, at least the types who go to college, start becoming attractive at around the same age where the "frat guy" starts losing his mojo, and that this keeps increasing steadily as the guy grows older. This happens because the confidence of the man starts growing, and women slowly lose power over him compared to what they used to.

The guys who are late bloomers are the ones who probably peak around their thirties. They've been socially awkward most of their lives and have struggled to understand intersexual attraction. However, these guys are smart, so they start understanding the dating game. They also build their confidence by building competence in a large amount of areas, while the guy who was the "Alpha male" in his late teens has stagnated. Most of all these guys are attractive because of their attained status and confidence, but they also learn how to dress and look better. This applies both to STRs and LTRs.

terminator3456 · 2015-12-15T00:51:33+00:00

I'm highly skeptical of this "dating for men 30+ is easy peasy and all those hot college thots who rejected you will now be begging for it" trope.

To me, it's so obviously wishful thinking as to be pretty laughable.

Sure, if you get physically attractive and put down the vidya long enough to get a robust social life then yes, you can certainly see improvement.

But to think that your average TRP Joe software developer in his 20s is suddenly George Clooney once he's 30 is absurd.

ReformedTomboy · 2015-12-15T01:25:01+00:00

I believe male prime is 28-35 years old. Prime for both sexes is defined as the age range at which they will attract the most suitors. It seems men in their late 20s to mid 30s are in demand by the widest range of women. They can date younger and older without trouble.

LUClEN · 2015-12-15T01:52:06+00:00

There's no reliable way to measure this if you're talking about a peak value in the dating market. Consider guys like Louis CK and Steve Jobs who don't really attain their fame and status until they're much older. Men will have better physical appearance in their twenties, but will make more in their 30s, but this is not always the case. Sometimes it can be the opposite.

[deleted] · 2015-12-15T16:18:18+00:00

lol all these answers.

beyond the peak is the male 'wall', when no matter what you do, or how much you earn, or how you look, you can't get the best of ladies within your dating pool.

for women, i'd say the wall is between 20-30. After 30, no matter how you look or behave, your pool is not gonna include the best of the best because you phased out by younger, perkier hotter women.

For men, i think the wall is between 40-50. You can earn a shit ton of money, and still look handsome, but you can't compare to a 30 year old man in his sexual peak maxed out on testosterone. Even if you marry a 22 year old HB9 at 50 y.o, she will sexually crave a <40 year old man.

Just the facts of life.

[deleted] · 2015-12-15T17:18:46+00:00

You dumb motherfuckers are being so hella dumb about this.

Yeah no shit a twenty one year old frat bro with a crazy body and good looks is going to be at his most attractive at that age, that's his thing.

Different people peak at different times and the variation is much greater for men than for women. If you're a guy that relies on being physically appealing and thrives on being in a certain culture (fraternity culture or university or whatever) then you're going to do better early on. If that's not you, you end up being pushed down other roads, whether it's into a career person, or a guy with an incredible style, or a guy who's amazing at a particular skill, or a guy with loads of charisma or whatever, or any combination of the above.

A lot of the things that makes a guy attractive require a lot more time and effort, so it's very rare that you're going to be in your early twenties and be that attractive. If you rely on your looks and being in a particular social scene then obviously you're going to go downhill but if you don't then you can only really go uphill, and sometimes you'll end up on a bigger hill than the frat bros were on.

With regards to looks, a lot of guys do get better looking as they get older. Most probably don't, but some do, and with better style and a personality to match the look you can definitely end up being more attractive.

ProtoPill · 2015-12-15T01:53:46+00:00

If a man lifts from 18-22+, figures his style out (dresses like a man, not band tshirts and bootcut jeans or a hipster faggot), has a little bit of his own money, acquire a decent amount of facial hair, he can probably be his sexiest at like 24-28

But if he takes care of himself (suncreen, moisturizer, good diet), men don't age as fast as women, he can carry his looks into his 30's

Bekazzled · 2015-12-15T06:36:48+00:00

Hmm, I think I was in my late teens when I found myself saying out loud during a re-run of The Fugitive, "Wow, Tommy Lee Jones is hot."

Male friend pointed out the character was what drew me in, not TLJ. That's true. However, Al Pacino around Scent of a Woman era was insanely hot... I think I would have been around my late teens at that point too?

I don't really get the sexual appeal of Clooney, Brad Pitt, Ryan Gosling, Channing Tatum etc. Most of them seem like great guys but I don't find them sexually attractive.

MakeMoneyNotWar · 2015-12-15T15:15:07+00:00

The "peak" isn't an objective peak, but when the marketplace tilts in your favor. A tenderloin steak is objectively better and more expensive than a hot dog, but in a famine and all the steaks are gone, the hot dog's worth more than gold.

Title	The age at when men peak.
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