First post, long time lurker...

BobbyPeru · 2018-09-26T04:26:27+00:00

I plan to simply tell her that I'll be seeking outside resources to have my physical needs met.

This seems pretty abrupt, butthurt, and reactive. This is a passive/aggressive beta approach.

Why don’t you try saying something much more subtle and see how she reacts. Baby steps.

ReddJive · 2018-09-26T12:06:41+00:00

I plan to simply tell her that I'll be seeking outside resources to have my physical needs met.

Sooooo you're trying to emotionally blackmail her? If you want to fuck then fuck. You don't need ours or her permission, but this is screaming for attention. PUHLEEEZE fuck me or Mary Jane Rotten-Crotch will.

But looking at your lift stats you aren't putting in the work.

You are DL2. That is your issue. You aren't even ready for the hard stuff yet. Unless you were seriously obese you should be further along, and sure the numbers aren't the whole story here but still. 185 bench is pathetic. Really. It is. 225 is the MINIMUM standard here unless you have some injuries.

235 squat? I start my warm up at 235.

Your problem is that you are half stepping. You are just going through the motions LARPing the whole thing. Your wife sees it. The other girls don't. They see what you want them to see.

Speak_Sense · 2018-09-26T04:30:55+00:00

You are on dread level 2, and you want to spin plates?

Stop fooling yourself by thinking that your time "lurking" counts. It doesn't. The reasons why are apparent throughout your entire post.

In the short term, STFU at home, work the levels, and lift heavier.

RandomlyChosenTitle · 2018-09-26T10:28:41+00:00

My question, to those that truly live the MRP lifestyle, how successful have you been in keeping your wife and spinning plates?

The answers to this are going to vary widely, and quite frankly none of them will matter to your specific situation. If this is your goal, then work towards it. But be honest with yourself, you're here asking because you're afraid of her reaction... i.e. you're approaching the question from squarely within her frame. That alone tells me that you aren't ready to pull it off yet.

Write down what you would do today if you did not have a wife/kids to go home to. Lift, meet friends for happy hour, catch a movie, martial arts, replace the crap carpet with hardwood floors throughout the first level of the house, change up the landscaping in the front yard, this list can go on and on.

Know what you didn't say you would do? Fuck other women. That only came up in the face of a rejection. So do you really want to spin plates, or are you just looking for validation through sex and throwing in the towel on getting that validation from your wife?

Follow your MAP, slowly increase dread, and work on your frame. This isn't a quick fix but it does work. Once you're an attractive man with options, you'll be in a better place to decide if it's with your wife or with someone else.

In the meantime, maybe try initiating at different times. I know the kids make this a challenge but be creative. Limiting your initiations to bedtime make it tough to avoid coming across as butthurt if you get rejected and leave the room. If you already have somewhere to be it makes leaving easy. Bonus: when she starts responding to you positively, you can occasionally leave her hanging and make her wait for you.

innominating · 2018-09-26T11:24:06+00:00

You’re not fit enough and socially autistic, which means you’re not attractive, which means you will have a difficult time spinning plates.

That being said, it may help for you to reframe why you are doing this from “to get my wife to fuck” to “so I’m attractive enough to spin plates.” Give it a try, it will reveal your weaknesses.

I can tell you one weakness: you’re too skinny fat. At 6’ 185 you need to be benching 280 to have anything near an ideal physique. Once you get there women will respond to you like you have an ideal physique, including your wife. Keep lifting and don’t fuckarounditis.

470_2_700_nm · 2018-09-26T12:47:22+00:00

Hey buddy straight up your body fat is too high. Some on here would consider your lifts weak ass, mine as well. But I can’t emphasize enough the effect of body fat on your level of attractiveness.

Your magic number is 12%. Don’t worry my wife felt “dirty” around the kids as well until I was in the 12% realm. Once in the 12% realm I’ve hadn’t my dick in her mouth as close to 20 feet away while they were playing happily.

So just keep training. BTW it was my experience that the 12% body fat solicited other bitches attention withought very much effort if any. Your abundance mentality will come - keep going with lifts and body weight targets.

You will only want to focus on one of these at a time: bulking or cutting. IMO you need to cut right now and maintain your muscle mass. Read about how to do that and be fucking meticulous about it - I beleive you will gain the most from this effort in terms of your MAP.

Finally. The scheduled sex. Put a stop to that.

Rian_Stone · 2018-09-26T12:29:42+00:00

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RedPillCoach · 2018-09-28T17:21:02+00:00

The wife told me she has zero desire, not just for me but anyone. She went on about feeling 'dirty' with the kids in the house and how she is always thinking about it in the back of her mind. Yep, got it. I leave the room, she asks where I'm going, I state that 'I can't sleep' and retreat to my office to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

I don't know if these feelings are legitimate on the part of your wife or if they are grounds for divorce. I do know that getting butthurt when your wife is revealing her true feelings is probably not the right strategy (unless you are going to be unable to hold frame during the ensuing conversation- then a tactical retreat might be OK).

how successful have you been in keeping your wife and spinning plates?

That depends on the guy. For most, not very.

dread level isn't high enough, that I'm not fit enough, that I'm socially autistic when it comes to passing the big shit tests,

Now we are making progress! Tell us more....and please don't degrade into butthurt!

I plan to simply tell her that I'll be seeking outside resources to have my physical needs met. The door will always remain open for her to return to main plate status as she's a great mother, good housekeeper, decent cook and a full time teacher.

Feel the butthurt? I do. You recognize your Dread Level is to low so instead of increasing it one level at a time you go straight to level 12? Interesting. Could you fuck up the MRP Plan worse if you tried even harder? Inquiring minds want to know this one.

Your WIFE just told you she has 0 desire for you or for anyone. Obviously this is a LONG TERM dealbreaker. However, in a marriage it is not usually a SHORT TERM deal breaker. You deal with it by setting the boundaries and asking the questions, and by SLOWLY increasing your Dread Game. If you do it right, the wife has time to catch up and change, and you have time to build yourself up so you could snag a tighter and wetter and younger model than this Wife 1.0. What are the questions? Things like: "Obviously you understand that this type of desire towards any husband is a long term dealbreaker for any marriage...so what can I do to help you fix this?

Her: I don't know...blah blah.

You: Taking control. First we have to rule out medical problems. Both of us need a physical and blood work to start......

If she is willing to work with you on the sexual dysfunctions then you can fix it. If she is not willing to work after that emotional confession, then you probably can't fix it. I would asses that first. In your case, IDGAF, Dread Game, and STFU are sure paths to divorce.

TryingToOwnIt · 2018-09-26T07:04:23+00:00

Do you have friends outside of the house? Do you have a gym membership? When I encounter your same situation, I pleasantly just peace out and go find something else to do. I would like it to be plates, but usually it is not. Usually go to the gym or reading or something to make myself a more valuable individual. Always be studying some shit, bro. women study facebook, you should study books.

screechhater · 2018-09-26T10:00:30+00:00

Exactly how in the fuck does a man decide it will take 8 months to be attractive with options ?

Don’t talk about sex as a needy boy. Talk about sec as you are going to fuck get into orgasmic orbit

Kill the weekly schedule. You are now above that.

slodojo · 2018-09-26T13:18:14+00:00

How old are your kids?

IRunYourRiver · 2018-09-26T18:37:10+00:00

You are "actively gaming" your wife 14/15 days? First, that's a remarkable accomplishment. Second, why isn't it more effective? What's your game like? A little naughty? Sexually insinuating? It doesn't seem to be effective, whatever the case. I've really just barely begun learning how to game my wife and she has responded incredibly well to it. At DL 2 you're new at this too. Maybe something is off there.

hystericalbonding · 2018-09-26T19:40:45+00:00

Based on your numbers, unless you're a climber or do loads of pull-ups, you're cheating on rows. Drop the weight and be strict with form.

WISNIFG: Fogging is a better approach than STFU, AA and AM need a ton of practice

Can you point me to the chapter where he talks about AA and AM? I must have missed that.

Get your testosterone levels checked and write them down. GP has no interest in checking my levels as I currently have no symptoms.

Kits can be bought online.

DL2 and you're skipping to ultimatum. You're a retard. Stop being a retard and you might get laid. Start by shutting the fuck up about sex and the relationship. You obviously haven't read the Rational Male Year 1 - you can't negotiate genuine desire.

Two_kids_in_a_coat · 2018-09-28T23:15:56+00:00

Realize that spinning plates is a death sentence to your marriage. Don’t go Rambo, it never ends well. One dread level at a time.

Your lifts are not very impressive, but a good start. (Though your OHP is pretty impressive compared to your other lifts) Keep focusing and start cleaning up your diet. Gym is a priority, you can’t just go when you feel like it. You go 3-4 times a week no matter what.

Re-read NMMNG. You’ve got a covert contract going on. She doesn’t put out, you get pissed. Practice kino all day. No sex but flirt, touch her, tease her. Get her in the mood.

Title	First post, long time lurker...
Author	TryingToOwnIt
Upvotes	8
Comments	44
Date	September 26, 2018 4:15 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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