6 out of 10 Welsh men who take a Paternity test turn out not to be the biological father

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In high-school ....

I had been sleeping with this crazy chick, (dick in crazy, I know ಠ_ಠ) met her family, they liked me, then realized that she was a crazy bitch after a few months. Break it off, she is still in love with me. A few months later she starts dating some other guy, but the whole time still trying to get me to be with her. She gets pregnant with that guys kid, or some other guy's, I really don't know or cared. She then proceeds to tell her parents that I was the dad since her family liked me and hated her other guys. Her whole family then tries to make my life a living mess because as the "dad" I "should" take responsibility. My school even got involved with it, I take paternity test (which I pass because I hadn't touched her in months) and laugh at her for trying to get me back with this absurd plan.

Her family pulls her out of the school and she spends the next couple of years bouncing around from one school to another. I dodged a bullet because she has like 6 kids with 6 different guys or something, with like 4/5 different ethnicities. Which is ok, i would imagine it makes an interesting life at home. Oh, she also discovered drugs and looks nothing like her highschool self.

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So? Doesn't mean I should have to give up my genetic information. Simple statement from both the parent and father should be sufficient, unless there's a reason to suspect a crime (i.e., lying on the document).

They don't take Mom's word for it, and they take great pains to ensure her actual child is who she goes home with. There is NO reason, other than trying to protect the ability to commit Paternity Fraud, that this 'can't' be done.

If the father wants a paternity test done, there should be nothing stopping the father from getting it done. That's not the same thing as "mandatory".

What about the wife expressing 'shock and concern' that he would doubt her?

MANDATORY paternity testing is the only way to ensure men are not duped.

And yes, I get it, you're OK with men getting fucked over.

I'm not.

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For the rest of the population on planet Earth, it's best to have a complete and accurate family history in order to correctly treat and prevent a multitude of diseases.

See, this is how I know I'm arguing with a bunch of people from 3rd tier universities: complete lack of rational thinking.

Suppose that my mother got pregnant by someone other than my believed father. The paternity test turns up that this man is really not my father. All I know at this point is that whatever hereditary diseases she he has don't apply to me. That still does not, under any circumstances, give any indication as to what my hereditary diseases are.

Hell, it doesn't even show that I don't have what the suspected father has; my real father could have it as well.

In fact, you only get knowledge of hereditary diseases if you know who the father is, not who the father isn't.

The only way to enforce your law is to make sure every single male in the world is given a paternity test.

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I daresay cases of adultery wouldn't be a big problem if partners were presented with daily surveillance reports on each other, too.

Paternity test is a one-time thing.

My relationship is based on trust, by my choice. I choose to assume that my child is my own, and not to call that assumption into question without cause.

That's nice, but obviously you can't speak for everyone.

IF a father wants a paternity test to be done at birth, then it should be done because that's his right. The law should enforce it in such circumstances.

If the law doesn't allow enforcement of paternity test, and the mother is refusing the child's DNA to be used for a paternity test, then the father should have the right not to sign the birth certificate and not to assume any legal responsibility for the child.

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Oh I see, so according to you, it's OK to violate someone's rights for the speculative good of others (speculative because there's an extremely good chance the person being vaccinated will never be exposed to the pathogens at all).

By your logic, my right to kill someone else is violated by state and federal laws. This is false, sense you do not have the right to kill another person, just as you don't have the right to enroll in public schools without vaccinations.

In fact, you actually can get waivers for vaccinations for religious or other purposes.

Genetic diseases need to be detected, early if possible, because they are a threat to future generations.

Not really. One person's genetic disorder does not affect society on a grand scale. 1, only subsequent generations are affected, which is not the same as putting an entire population at risk.

What are you going to do about it? Tell people with progeria that they can't have kids? Yeah, because that's not a violation of rights.

Not to mention that if they're basing the infant's medical history on the information available about the "father" who isn't, they're incorporating major errors that could be a direct threat to the child later in life.

That would be the mother's fault for not stating that there's a chance the suspected father isn't the real father. She would be the one committing a crime by giving false information on a legal document.

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Title	6 out of 10 Welsh men who take a Paternity test turn out not to be the biological father
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	168
Comments	128
Date	September 18, 2011 7:30 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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