Crossing the divide: Do men really have it easier? These transgender guys found the truth was more complex.

a-man-from-earth · 2021-06-23T09:34:58+00:00

Article is paywalled. Can someone put it on an archive or copy-paste it?

Talik1978 · 2021-06-23T17:10:01+00:00

I find it interesting how surprised the one guy was that the men around him treated hostility to their gender as so unremarkable that they didn't even look up.

NoPast · 2021-06-23T17:11:06+00:00

I show that article to my woke Friends. Their answer? "They are not white"

friendofalltehworld · 2021-06-23T11:44:57+00:00

Do men really have it easier?

No

the truth was more complex

If, by more complex, you mean; no.

Deadlocked02 · 2021-06-23T11:02:23+00:00

I can recall a moment where this difference hit home. A couple of years into my medical gender transition, I was traveling on a public bus early one weekend morning. There were six people on the bus, including me. One was a woman. She was talking on a mobile phone very loudly and remarked that “men are such a–holes.” I immediately looked up at her and then around at the other men. Not one had lifted his head to look at the woman or anyone else. The woman saw me look at her and then commented to the person she was speaking with about “some a–hole on the bus right now looking at me.” I was stunned, because I recall being in similar situations, but in the reverse, many times: A man would say or do something deemed obnoxious or offensive, and I would find solidarity with the women around me as we made eye contact, rolled our eyes and maybe even commented out loud on the situation. I’m not sure I understand why the men did not respond, but it made a lasting impression on me.

An interesting excerpt that shows well why it’s so hard to change things (and maybe how many of the current problems we’re addressing came to be): women are aware of their value as human beings and have a sense of collectivity, men don’t. And that’s sad.

It’s an interesting article. I’ve heard similar opinions from trans men on Reddit. Also, whenever I see articles like this, I wonder how the comment section on Facebook was like. I don’t think this is the main reason why people transition, but if you ask me, I’d say that the constant demonization of men is a factor that leads many men who would otherwise feel comfortable with their identities to transition. In a similar vein, imagine a woman who grows up hearing tales of male privilege and being instilled with paranoias: that the world hates her gender, that there’s a man behind every bush waiting to rape and murder her… It must be exhausting. I can see how transition could be a tempting path for someone living in such progressive bubbles. Again, I’m not saying or implying those are the majority of cases, but we’d be foolish to not even acknowledge that it could be a thing.

Reaper12543 · 2021-06-23T09:25:42+00:00

I don't know why women ever wanted a man's world. It's brutal being a man and these transgenders learned it the hard way. we told the world for years yet they accused us of mansplaining

AleniRSP · 2021-06-23T12:59:42+00:00

A person from non-western civilization can clearly see that the west is a matriarchy. Because every article in official media is so strictly formulated inside the boundaries of the feminism agenda. Even this one

LastRounder · 2021-06-23T10:47:14+00:00

Another proof of obvious for any adequate person thing. Water is wet.

Driftlight · 2021-06-24T17:35:36+00:00

I've been thinking for a while that in the current topsy turvey social justice era that we live in trans men may be one of the few hopes for mens issues to get any traction. FTM transitioners will find that they now live in a reality where they come up against misandric stuff like 'men are trash' and 'all men are potential rapists' which they haven't encountered before and aren't used to and eventually they will start talking about it and since third wave feminists are supposed to 'centre trans voices' they may actually have to listen.

llama_in_space · 2021-06-25T19:39:03+00:00

Wow. Zander and Chris took the pill, whether they wanted to or not

pattyboiIII · 2021-06-27T09:59:29+00:00

It's awful how some of these people were treated. I hope at least some people can now realise just how much gender has an impact on how your treated, especially if your black in the USA.

az226 · 2021-06-24T03:21:02+00:00

Thanks for sharing! Very interesting to learn about directness and impatience

Threwaway42 · 2021-06-24T13:08:00+00:00

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Title	Crossing the divide: Do men really have it easier? These transgender guys found the truth was more complex.
Author	Reaper12543
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Comments	43
Date	June 23, 2021 9:22 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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