I’m really glad to see this reach the front page of Reddit! Far too often, men’s issues are reduced to feminist platitudes of “men just need to open up more”, but the author of this paper looks more into deeper societal reasons for it.

Hey_itsmeguys · 2021-05-30T04:38:40+00:00

Finally, not more victim blaming!

Edit: And still in the comments, there's people going, "This is because men don't want to seek help. They want to keep their emotions to themselves." Ugh.

BCRE8TVE · 2021-05-30T05:51:08+00:00

AAaand now it'S been deleted from r/science. Bloody fantastic.

Can't let people peek behind the curtain and see that the feminist perspective might actually not be a perfect reflection of reality, now can we?

EDIT: Oh hey it was reinstated!

Forgetaboutthelonely · 2021-05-30T05:10:40+00:00

Funny. The comments on the original post are already being nuked. How unsurprising.

manbro7 · 2021-05-30T13:14:26+00:00

We tried. We were told it was "male tears, mansplaining, male fragility, toxic masculinity, weakness," then you have non-existent mental health spending, discriminated actively to help women instead, massively accepted and normalized misandry and so much more.

AmericanBoy505 · 2021-05-30T06:04:44+00:00

Exactly! I’m so sick and tired of the view that men are responsible for their own problems since they built the system. Seriously, people love to victim blame men.

Oncefa2 · 2021-05-30T12:03:55+00:00

26% of suicides in men are from intimate partner violence.

Men are 40% more likely to kill themselves after their children have been taken away from them by an institutionally sexist family court system.

Social isolation due to the stigma that single men must be incels or rapists is a huge cause of mental health problems in general in men, including depression and suicide.

But no let's just say it's because men don't cry enough.

drew9779 · 2021-05-30T05:22:12+00:00

love seeing this type of content on subs that aren’t primarily focused on gender bc I can go in and just block absolutely everyone who shames men in the comments. knowing I will never have to see another word written by those people is a form of sweet peace

ZookeepergameSuper70 · 2021-05-30T04:07:06+00:00

Awesome!! So glad to see people actually starting to care

plitox_is_a_bitch · 2021-05-30T13:12:18+00:00

Aaaaaaaaaaand /r/science deleted it. Go figure.

mcmur · 2021-05-30T18:48:51+00:00

Wow this is great.

I had a feminist therapist that I know give me the "toxic masculinity and men not talking about their problems is to blame for higher suicide rates among men" speech the other day.

Weary-Invite1606 · 2021-05-30T06:13:16+00:00

It’s getting a LOT better and we’re getting more conscious of it

StorkReturns · 2021-05-30T19:51:54+00:00

It's worth pointing out that this paper does not invalidate the issues men have with "opening up". The discussion shows that men indeed have trouble with talking about their own problems. But it's pointing out that this step is just one of the many hurdles men face and men's mental problems will not be solved if men just open up more if other issues (like access to help or to social services) is not improved.

TheQuestioner235 · 2021-05-30T16:11:17+00:00

Well, it's more a combination of both. But the lack of openness about issues is more often something more to do with how society treats masculinity than an active choice to not be more open.

Wheatbelt_charlie · 2021-05-30T10:04:34+00:00

r/science is a bit of a joke, it doesn't actually stand for science, it stands for politics.

It's full of moronic vegans and other such detritus so it's no wonder that this challenges their world view.

UnHope20 · 2021-05-30T19:21:17+00:00

r/Male_Studies please...

Crosspost "Men die of suicide much more often than women. This is commonly blamed on men's unwillingness to seek help and talk about their problems. This paper disputes the conventional view, emphasizing instead socio-economic issues and obstacles to health care access" from /r/science: