It's impossible for a guy to win an argument if he implies he's sexually unsuccessful

Wrasserman · 2021-10-01T23:26:14+00:00

While I think the vast majority of your post is bunk I agree with the title.

The cheapest gotcha online is to pollute the well by calling someone an "incel" so you can claim the moral high ground.

Even more ironic that people who claim to be feminist will try to "win" an argument by claiming whoever they disagree with "gets no bitches".

lulll · 2021-10-01T23:06:09+00:00

some black pillers go too far with the whole 'you have to be a model or it's over bro', but it is 100% true if a woman does not find you physically attractive there is nothing you can do to make her want to fuck you unless you are famous and she wants to parasitically latch onto you for that fame, or throw money are her. that's it. the people who still get mad about this are people who haven't accepted they themselves are very superficial, or people who want to live in denial and think women are these magical creatures that live in the clouds and it isn't fucking obvious what they get attracted to. fuck off with this shit.

you know how red pill has that whole red pill rage thing where they claim guys are still in the rage phase? this topic is the black pill equivalent to that, stop raging

SoMuchForLongevity · 2021-10-01T21:12:31+00:00

The problem with the blackpill is that it takes way too big a swing. It says things like "80% of women are shared by 20% of men."

Then you look it up and you find that 69% of young men have had sex in the last year. Despite blackpillers insisting everything they're saying is "science," the incel numbers don't match the scientific numbers at all.

Incels want to see themselves as a large, oppressed group. They want to see the world in terms of "Chad took all our women and now we have to die alone."

But they aren't a large, oppressed group. They're a collection of sexually unsuccessful men who are sexually unsuccessful for completely different reasons from each other. They have virtually nothing in common except that no one will fuck them.

And then they take on this ideology that they're unfuckable because of - and only because of - bad luck with the way they look.

And that's also demonstrably false. Because in the rare event that an incel honestly shows his face, everyone immediately recognizes that guys who look like him get girlfriends all the time.

cowabungus12345 · 2021-10-01T22:39:34+00:00

I mean yes, the guys that I look up to that praise reality red/black pilll are successfull men.

You dont want to hear an argument from an ''incel'' which is ironic as fuck, because in order to solve the problem of 1/3 sexless men under the age of 25, isn't it crucial to hear their side of the coin?

Privelages are invisible to the ones that have it, and refuse to hear the other side.

goatismycopilot · 2021-10-01T21:27:56+00:00

Black pill needs a better marketing concept. Americans in particular will buy anything kind of bullshit particularly if it is image packaged correctly.

festethefoole1 · 2021-10-01T21:41:41+00:00

There is a fair bit of truth to this, simply because women are extremely emotional creatures who go on vibes and feelings far more than words and content.

The guy making accurate, logical, data-backed and erudite points to a woman explaining things like hypergamy and the sexual marketplace and so on gives off the vibe and the feeling of:

“frustrated man who’s angry at women because he’s unsuccessful”

This is absolutely no different to the vibe and feeling a woman will get from the most stereotypically angry incel’s shrill ranting.

Sure, one guy may be calm and logical and making sound arguments and the other guy may be a misogynistic nutter, but both create the exact same feeling in a woman:

“Bitter man frustrated at women due to his lack of success”.

And that’s the beginning middle and end of it really

PM_Happy_Puppy_Pics · 2021-10-01T22:12:23+00:00

My problem with blackpill is that it focuses too much on "woe is me" and excuses (you are short, poor, not the right ethnicity, etc.) instead of guiding men to level up. Lift, learn to flirt (or when not to), clean up, etc. is more common in Red Pill communities. Each has toxic elements to it, as well. Tradcon communities get too sacrificial. It is good to take a step in, look around, and test the water, but don't jump in headfirst.

It is easy to get bitter and give up. You weren't born with millions of dollars, a personal trainer, chef, and your pick of elitist schools, so you might as well complain about it and play video games all day and night, right? No one has everything- even the elite of the elite don't get everything they want, it is all subject to your place in life.

GridReXX · 2021-10-01T21:28:56+00:00

The “black pill” is simply men reconciling that there are hierarchies and intersectionality in everything.

They’re having “aha” moments many, many, many others had at 11.

“Oh wow being cute increases desirability”
~~”oh wow how you act and comport increases or decreases desirability”~~ just kidding they haven’t accepted this “black pill” yet…
“oh wow height or lack there of relatively increases desirability”
“oh wow the more classically aryan you look the higher your desirability to a wider net of ppl”
“oh wow ppl of darker skin complexions don’t seem to be as preferred as ppl with lighter skin complexions” (this preference affects women more tho — “tall dark and handsome” is for men. For women it’s “slight, bright, and beautiful”)

It also seems the loudest of them have taken this information and have hunkered down to woe, woe, woe away.

It’s like they have decided it’s a zero sum game. “If I am not Chris Hemsworth and getting what he gets life isn’t worth living 🖤💔”

Ppl with naturally optimistic purviews and/or a community who ingrained that into them, work within this knowledge… adjust the things they can adjust, and accept the things they cannot.

Bonus Points: many black pillers appear to be (in many ways validly) depressed and/or seemingly aspie, so the things everyone else thinks are adjustable or surmountable, they do not.

DXBrigade · 2021-10-01T22:15:43+00:00

He doesn't have to imply anything, i can tell a guy is sexually unsuccesful (even when he is posing as a "Chad") just with the BS he post. Guys with little to no experience tend to have thwarted worldview.

TomorrowsWar · 2021-10-01T21:14:03+00:00

Nor should he. Human beings have one job which is to replicate and spawn. If he can’t manage to even mimic his only purpose via casual sex with hot sluts then he is a plant or some single cell organism

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chair0147 · 2021-10-02T01:35:47+00:00

The best approach is to say 1 + 1 = 2 regardless if you're a virgin or now. Assuming your arguments are cogent.

nick1812216 · 2021-10-02T02:31:28+00:00

Hundreds of sex per year? Pssh, That’s impossible! NOBODY’s that attractive. A more realistic number is like 1 or 2 every couple years IMHO

Holler4Heller · 2021-10-02T19:22:45+00:00

TLDR most people hind brained morons.

TheBookOfSeil · 2021-10-01T21:53:50+00:00

Well to be fair, its impossible for a guy to win an argument in general because he has a penis, but especially when arguing against a woman.

Title	It's impossible for a guy to win an argument if he implies he's sexually unsuccessful
Author	CommanderBobcat
Upvotes	74
Comments	92
Date	October 1, 2021 9:07 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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