So what is it that women want, and how am I supposed to achieve it?

Male_Inkling · 2022-01-04T20:17:31+00:00

The way is not thinking about women but about individuals, and part from there.

bigbabyjay · 2022-01-04T19:55:37+00:00

Sounds corny but you have to focus on YOURSELF and become the best version of you while dating!!! You will naturally attract women who like you for YOU! And not the toxic "red-pill" ideology

luridlurker · 2022-01-04T19:53:56+00:00

Stop looking for a one-size-fits-all. Women, just like men, are individuals. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

Figure out what makes you tick first. Determine your needs. Determine what you want and what you absolutely can't do without. Then figure out what makes you attractive to the type of partner you're looking for.

missmackattack · 2022-01-04T23:21:57+00:00

"Women" aren't all the same. What I want is very different to what my sister wants or my colleague wants.

Don't bother trying to appeal to 'Women' as a group because it doesn't exist.

Decide what kind of partner appeals to you and if you'd suit them as people are often attracted to someone they share values or goals with - e.g. if you're attracted to driven, ambitious women, they're likely to want a driven and ambitious partner so that's something you could work on. If you're into sporty women who love fitness, she's more likely to want a partner who's the same.

There's no rule like, "all women like men who are commanding" - plenty of women don't. "All women like flowers" - nope. "All women like men to take things slowly" - nope. You can't possibly distill down half the population to set of rules that apply to them all.

ItIsICoachCal · 2022-01-04T20:24:05+00:00

Hey man. I've seen your posts all over the site, and over and over you're looking for quick and easy answers to complicated questions. When you get complex answers, you ignore the advice and reload to try again somewhere else. The first step is to slow down and open yourself up to the advice you've already been given. Read it, digest it, ask follow ups if need be, and start putting in the work. The alternative is continuing to fish for an easy solution that doesn't exist. What choice will you make?

xvszero · 2022-01-04T21:45:01+00:00

There is no secret path to be what "women" want. They're all different.

So the actual path is to connect with someone based on what makes you you and what makes them them. And yeah it is tough, there are no real shortcuts. You have to get out and meet a lot of people before making a real conncetion sometimes.

(Been with my wife in a solid relationship for 12+ years, so unlike the red pill "gurus" who try to give advice on shit they don't know anything about, I actually kind of know what I'm talking about here.)

brightflower3113 · 2022-01-04T23:04:57+00:00

women are not monolithic

Inareskai · 2022-01-04T21:51:27+00:00

'Women' don't want one set thing for you to achieve. There is no point you can reach where suddenly all women like you because you made it and got the One Thing women like.

Women are just people. Just like men. Their interests, wants, desires, values etc are all different, some might overlap with yours and some might not. Find the people (men and women) with overlap for you, they're the people you want to befriend and have in your social circle for meeting potential romantic connections.

GloomyHousing2657 · 2022-01-05T01:48:54+00:00

First, women are not robots. We are individual humans with individual thoughts, morals, emotions, problems, and so on. Second, sounds like you need behavioral cognitive therapy. Go find one then worry about a woman.

Ok_Fisherman7280 · 2022-01-04T21:04:44+00:00

Lookup Apollonia Ponti on YouTube. Her videos and advice are gems. They definitely helped when I left Red Pill and even now. Much like what the other guys have said here.. you need to be the best version of you and women will naturally be attracted to you. Forget all the games and tactics.. that just ends up being more of a pain for you. Stay up bro.

Elfich47 · 2022-01-04T23:31:03+00:00

You listen to what they say and see if it matches what you are looking for.

inkybreadbox · 2022-01-04T20:03:14+00:00

Be passionate about something and share it with her.

Equal parts you taking the initiative and asking her what she wants first, quality time together and space apart. No one wants one or the other all the time.

w1gw4m · 2022-01-05T03:27:54+00:00

Women aren't a hive mind, they don't all want the same thing. But all people have some basic requirements to be treated with dignity as human beings. Start there and you will be surprised at how much you can understand about women once you view them as people just like you.

This-Wasabi-3152 · 2022-01-05T04:11:06+00:00

Being human and finding another human to have a shared human experience. There's no secret path.

cunningcaring · 2022-01-05T11:00:16+00:00

The path? Look to your successful role models, your father and grandfather and teachers and heron.

mammajess · 2022-01-05T11:41:56+00:00

I don't know how old you are so it makes it harder to answer. But actually when men and women are surveyed about relationships what they want is pretty similar. They want companionship, affection and closeness, sharing activities/teamwork, generally also to share sexual pleasure, and often kids. All you can do is make sure you are relatively "together" as a person and you develop good relationship/communication/interpersonal skills.

iostefini · 2022-01-05T11:50:45+00:00

First you need to think about what you want from women. Women are not all the same. Do you want a life partner? Casual sex partner? Someone who will work out with you? Someone who will go out drinking with you? Someone who will stay home and play video games with you?

Once you know which things are the most important to you (for example, maybe you want a woman who enjoys video games and working out?) then you can think about what sort of life you want to have with her. If you want a life where you both work out together every morning, start working out every morning on your own. If you want a life where you get online and play games, start getting online and playing games.

Then when you meet a woman, you can think about if she might be a good match for what you want. If she isn't, you can let her keep living her life the way she chooses because it's not a life you want anyway. If it seems like a good match, you can invite her on a date. If she accepts, try dating her and see how it goes. If it goes well, you can invite her to join your life. If it goes badly, end things and keep searching.

certifieddumb · 2022-01-05T17:57:51+00:00

Just stop, stop trying to achieve whatever you think women want. Keep good hygiene, be healthy, be yourself, don't be rude. That's it. Plenty of girls won't like you, some will. Women have different preferences.

Mr_KenSpeckle · 2022-01-06T06:16:33+00:00

This sub has no answers to your question.

XCheeseMerchantX · 2022-01-09T13:15:40+00:00

There is no one path. trust me. i just like you tried to find quick and easy answers for complex problems in my life. And i realized along the way that there are no quick and easy answers.

From what i have observed from my own life. the "just be yourself" cliche most of the time does not work. Quite the opposite actually. because this mindset makes you unwilling to improve yourself. because why should you if being yourself is already enough?

What can work is trying to be the best VERSION of yourself. see it as updating your software to a better version. its still the same software but a much better version of it.

Updating the software in this case means working on yourself and improving yourself. this can be going to the gym. finding a job you like, or buying new clothes and trying a new style.

If after having improved yourself for years you still cannot find a partner. Maybe it was never ment to be. are you yourself to blame for this? no. at least not if you tried everything in your power to be the best version of yourself. However if you sit out your life in self pity.not improving yourself but instead beating yourself up for not being given the blessing of love and end up finding no one. then you are to blame for it.

Love also requires luck. and some people are just terribly unlucky in having to live in an environment where no one is willing to provide them that love. Or they are just unlucky to have never been at the right place and time to met that special someone that they could have had a connection with. no one is to blame for this. not you and also not woman.

Is it unfair that life can go like this? yes but life is inherently unfair. Some people find love but are forever poor. others are rich but will never find love. Just try to focus on what you do have an realize that what you take for granted in your life could very likely be something someone desperately wants but cannot get.

PutsWomenOnPedestal · 2022-01-04T20:18:04+00:00

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Booda069 · 2022-01-04T23:21:37+00:00

Get filthy rich and get you one of those IG models

Nice-Event6099 · 2022-01-05T05:22:44+00:00

Rollo tamasi the rational male read it

sotiris88_p · 2022-02-02T18:01:04+00:00

looks enhancing and practise.

learn that women are humans too which is something quite a few rps and bps dont realize

DanMarinosDolphins · 2022-01-04T20:50:34+00:00

I feel like the information I could post on that question is too much to type out lol

The short answer, is I don't think those movements are entirely wrong. I'll pick out an example to you.

So the concept of negging. So, it works. Which is something women really don't like. Because from the angle of women, it's manipulation. They don't want to think that the philosophy of women liking aggressive dominant men is true. And men are confronted by women saying it's manipulative and the data that it just works. So what's the truth?

You really have to break it down. What's actually happening when men say an underhanded compliment, or a negative statement mixed in with positive statements, is the woman starts wondering what the man really thinks about her. Now what natural process does this emulate? It emulates a person who is genuinely figuring out if they like you. And in fact, women do it all the time. When a woman is deciding if she likes a guy. She might just talk aloud about her observations about him. "Oh, I thought you were gay." Might be something a woman genuinely says to a man. What I call this is ambiguous evaluation statements. She's not afraid of him not liking her, so she's not worried about making everything she says to him 100% positive. This demonstrates she believes she has high value. And, she's saying things that make him wonder if she likes him or not. Which studies have shown to automatically make you care more about whether someone ends up liking you.

Where negging gets it wrong, is the statements have become too negative. When it's natural, the ambiguity of these statements is genuine. It comes from feeling a person out. A lot of manufactured negging, is just down right insults. Or it's actually manipulative, as in, the man is manufacturing intimacy with the end goal of tricking the woman into sex.

The takeaway, is that if you really like a woman, don't be afraid to tease her. But tease her with your real thoughts. "Oh wow. You're short" might be something you actually think. Or "you remind me of my sister" these are things I've thought and said aloud to women. Because I was actually thinking those things. But I'm also free with compliments as well as just listening to women.

I honestly think a lot of the manosphere's advice isn't inherently bad. I think a lot of it is actually based on truth and reality. However it's often filtered through a patriarchal, misogynistic or manipulative lense and intentions.

Redbull6735 · 2022-01-04T20:16:23+00:00

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