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UK: Women's rights campaigner is arrested for a 'hate crime' She was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage and abusive writing

furchfur

January 27, 2022
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/r/MensRights
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10446037/Disabled-campaigner-womens-rights-arrested-hate-crime.html
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Title UK: Women's rights campaigner is arrested for a 'hate crime' She was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage and abusive writing
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furchfur

Upvotes 437
Comments 62
Date January 27, 2022 9:20 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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Comments

[–]AzLibDem 78 points79 points80 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I have no sympathy for this woman in particular, but the very concept of being "arrested on suspicion of abusive writing" is abhorrent to me.

[–]Soda_BoBomb 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right? As much as I'm sure I would find nearly everything this woman says wrong, it's even worse to arrest her for it.

[–]Pigort 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The UK severely needs a law that protects free speech; this is highly authoritarian. What good is free speech when everywhere you can express an idea is owned by a private entity, usually far leftwing.

But at least you can't be seized by the state.

[–]Random_182f2565 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's some Auth bullshit.

[–]mikesteane 110 points111 points112 points 4 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

"She suffers from severe bipolar." I rather think it's more that everyone around her suffers from her juvenile tantrums.

That having been said, it's not paranoia for her to believe that this is a matter of thought policing. It would appear that this is exactly what is happening, she is being charged with hate crimes for holding the wrong views. This is worrying, even if it is a case of Frankenstein being attacked by his own monster.

"Activism is a way for useless people to feel important , even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole."

Thomas Sowell

[–]alexmijowastaken 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hate speech laws are always thought policing

[–]Huffers1010 47 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Couldn't agree more. I find the woman utterly repulsive but I don't support suppressing her views. I'd rather know what clowns like this think so I can avoid them!

[–]mikesteane 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would avoid this woman even though I agree with her. People do not have a right not to be offended and the idea that they do certainly should not trump freedom of speech.

[–]furchfur[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good stuff. Agreed

[–]OctaviaPinfold 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is exactly thought policing, the wokes didn't discover some deeper truth about the nature of being human, they just made up different rules for themselves so they can neatly put everybody into a specific box, and you're the bigot if you don't think those boxes should work like that, or exist at all.

True, in this case I do think this woman is a bigot, but that's far from a hate crime.

[–]ZimbaZumba 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Brilliant quote.

[–]mikesteane 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For more great pearls of wisdom from Thomas Sowell see here

[–]Insidious-Sid 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's more of a case of "I'm unhappy because I'm fat so I became a feminist and now I'm going to make other people as unhappy as I am."

Misery loves company.

[–]Insidious-Sid 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Evelyn Beatrice Hall

[–]The_Dapper_Balrog 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also attributed to Voltaire, but it's probably not his.

I think it's one of those quotations that no one really knows who said it.

[–]biccat 87 points88 points89 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

kill all men

collective yawn.

women have vaginas

HATE CRIME

[–]JohnKimble111 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As I understand it, the strictest UK laws in terms of “causing offence” apply to social media, the exact platform where we see all the “kill all men” posts. Thus they’re technically the most illegal venue for such hate speech, and you can actually get away with more on a poster or even on tv than on social media.

[–]MastermindX 47 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is UK, so also obligatory reminder:

massive organization dedicated to raping thousands of children and forcing them into sexual slavery for decades

collective yawn

old woman hangs posters that some transgender found offensive

CRIME

[–]Kill_Frosty 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine spending time in jail over something like this? 20 years ago people would laugh in your face.

[–]rahsoft 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

its very hard to have sympathy for this person given the history of her own movement

if i were to put up posters stating that men are abused by women with domestic violence and should have refuges, and that mothers who abuse their husband should not have custody etc

or that MGM should be made illegal like FGM

or that Parental alienation should be made a crime.

for any of these, this person would be the first to social media and the police screaming about misogyny and how women have it worse eg the old Man get killed, mostly women affected trope.

She is getting a taste of what her own ideology has been doing to men for a very long time

Erin Pizzey warned society 50 years ago about this( and yes I know it has gone on long before this) and yet this movement has been destroying family lives( especially children) with their cult behaviour.

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"you live by the sword, then you die by the sword" is the only sentiment i can give to her..

[–]Soda_BoBomb 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sure, it's poetic justice.

Doesn't mean I'll ever support someone being arrested for wrong-think. It's disgusting.

[–]rahsoft 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't mean I'll

ever

support someone being arrested for wrong-think. It's disgusting.

I agree i would never support it because....

it could come back to me

I would not do or agree to something if I didnt want to be treated the same way.

However feminism..... is double standard called rules for thee, but not for me...

[–]63daddy 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

When I read the title I was surprised. Women being arrested for hate crimes against makes is almost unheard of. Of course she was arrested for hating on transgender persons. That explains it.

[–]OctaviaPinfold 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Specifically transgender women. I wonder what difference would've it made if she said e.g. "no women in men's prisons"

[–]63daddy 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it actually raises an interesting free speech vs hate speech issue. At what point someone should be considered the opposite sex is a controversial topic and I think people should be allowed to voice their opinions on the topic. Believing people who are biologically and legally men should be considered men isn’t necessarily a hateful opinion. I think often hate speech and harassment policies are used to censor speech that isn’t woke.

I say that in general. I haven’t been following specifically what she’s said.

[–]Silencio00 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The reasons why she was arrested are kind of insanely authoritarian and scary but I don't feel bad for her. She supports a movement and an ideology that promotes that authoritarianism and nonsense.

She was devoured by the monster she helped to create.

[–]pomegranate2012 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Literally 1984.

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> Swayne tweeted: 'When my house was raided, it has come to my attention that a BOOK was taken by the police. A book edited by Heather Brunskell-Evans on GC children. It was crammed with my notes. MY THINKING IS BEING INVESTIGATED- not things, not materials, not actions my actual thinking.' The book, 'Transgender Children and Young People: Born in Your Own Body', is a collection of essays critiquing the theory and practice of transgendering children, edited by Dr Heather Brunskell-Evans

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I agree with her!

[–]LettuceBeGrateful 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yup, I don't agree with her views but as far as I can tell this is literal thought policing.

The UK is a disgrace when it comes to this sort of thing.

[–]pomegranate2012 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

> The UK is a disgrace when it comes to this sort of thing.

Well, I think most people in the UK are pretty sensible and tend to do the right thing rather than completely crazy stuff out of a fear of out-of-control litigation as exists in certain other countries.

But, it does seem that there are certain cases where the law breaks down. This case seems like a likely contender.

The concepts of 'hate crime' and 'hate speech' are obviously highly politicized, highly suspect and should probably be removed completely.

As a resident of the UK, I hope we can work towards this goal of building a better society.

But, just look at Reddit. That is probably the model of censorship and thought policing that we will all have to face in the future.

[–]TheSnesLord 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A woman arrested for a hate crime? Holy heck, unicorns may exist after all.

[–]The__nameless911 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

transgender are higher as white women at the victim olympics

white men > white whamen > transgender > black men >..........> black gay female transgender

[–]JohnKimble111 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn’t celebrate this too much, all you’re seeing here is multiple tiers of different policing directly resulting from the scourge of identity politics.

The police are notorious for placing transgenders on the top tier when it comes to supposed crimes against them. While there is indeed a certain amount of karma in how transgenders have displaced feminists from the top spot and made them into second class citizens in the debate on gender issues, it doesn’t take away from the fact that men (and men’s issues), and especially white men, are still at the very bottom of the pile and third class citizens as far as the police are concerned

[–]bombbrigade 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The UK has no freedom of speech. Holy hell

[–]matrixislife 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She has my sympathy, but not my support.

[–]EzzyLight 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Karma exists.

[–]ZimbaZumba 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

She was arrested for posters and stickers inferring anti-Trans opinions. They never mentioned "Trans" once. The arrest is absurd, odious and a sign that wokeness has spiralled dangerously out of control. The bubble will burst in a few years.

[–]blaizken_420 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reap what you so. This is the world they wanted and now they get to live by their rules.

[–]Soda_BoBomb 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Peak UK. They'll arrest a 50 year old woman for wrong-think on the internet but look the other way from child grooming gangs.

It's amusing to watch the regressive Left eat it's own though.

[–]LettuceBeGrateful 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't agree with her message at all, but I don't think she should be punished for her speech. Vandalism and other stuff, sure (as long as they're legit charges).

[–]ijustdontcare74 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Just what your stereotypical rabid feminist looks like...fat, ugly, glasses and coloured hair....it's like they make these people from a mold.

[–]killcat 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's social camo, you wear the "uniform" of your social group.

[–]ArmaniDiamonds 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Typical face too

[–]BrazilianG1 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

she is right tho

[–]jinladen040 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ive learned the only thing Feminist's hate more than Republicans are Trans people.

[–]whatafoolishsquid 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's an idiot, but I'm more concerned about the UK government apparently arresting people based on speech and prosecuting thought crime.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You'd think the home nation of George Orwell would be more sensitive to the idea of Thought Police, and yet they seem to be marching towards 1984 every day

[–]TendieDinner777 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How am I not shocked that’s her?

[–]MGTOW_and_Bitcoin 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No big surprise here

[–]EnvironmentalWar4627 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

She was arrested for putting up signs that say "'no men in women's prisons' and 'humans never change sex' were reported as being offensive."

That doesn't seem any more or less offensive than things Matt billon said and he received a huge amount of support

It's essentially the same comment that everyone defended in this post

[–]furchfur[S] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She will not be found guuilty and I doubt it will go any further. The police are using a stupid power that has been given to them to influence socierty.

Arrest a few people for supposed hate crimes and everyone becomes paranoid about putting up posters on anything controvercial.

[–]clocksfornipples 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The charge of criminal damage is the putting up of stickers and posters, the definition if criminal damage (of less than £5000) in UK law makes this a technical violation (a child drawing on the footpath is technically criminal damage).

This will now depend on the judge, does the judge dislike her messages? Guilty of criminal damage, not bothered? Thrown out.

If found guilty of criminal damage, the "anti-trans" stuff can be considered an aggravating factor, making it a hate crime with a much stiffer sentence.

[–]Huffers1010 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would entirely accept they're potentially offensive, but I would Voltaire anyone's right to be offensive. It's hardly a police matter, or at least shouldn't be.

[–]HenryCGk -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Change my veiw TERFs are the worst and if only as a tactical choice we should be broadly trans accepting. See the Bower vs Brewdog case in Cardiff for a good laugh.

Though I do recognize that picking sids in a feminist civil war may be less effective and much less fun than watching it from the side.

[–]truuuuuuuuuck -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not accepting someone's mental illness

[–]LondonDude123 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Couple of points to make here:

First, if you expect me to sympathize with someone who was arrested for thinking the wrong thing, while "their side" (for lack of a better word) is more than happy to abuse and censor those who disagree with them: You're out of your goddamn mind! Schadenfreude and all that...

Second, in a more salty way for me to say, how come every Woman who gets caught doing something wrong suddenly has some sort of Mental Illness. You couldnt ever imagine a Man successfully arguing that...

Third, from what it looks like, the most they could have her for is Section 5, and even then its at a push. The whole "Criminal Damage" charge SHOULD NOT hold up in court, especially when a statue getting ripped down and thrown in a harbour supposedly WASNT CD. But, British Courts are a complete joke, so I expect her to get the death sentence for this...

"They got a warrant to search my house... " Of course they did. Again, British Courts. You're now seen as a dangerous criminal, and they will be looking for anything and everything you have. Should've fallen in line with the rest of the Wokies. Oh wait, you were a wokie once upon a time? Well guess you wernt woke enough. Leopards ate my face comes to mind...

Yeah, shes been done for thought crime. Welcome to the world of "Anyone who doesnt think Left Wing thoughts" nowadays. Fun isnt it...

[–]Brusanan 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is exactly why you don't weaken free speech to push your social justice causes. Eventually new special interest groups will be in charge, and to them you will be the "bigot" standing in the way of "progress".

[–]awsdlefthandbutton 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I always hate the 'i was kept in a cell with no natural light, my phone was taken away' - Yes this is what a cell is like. This is normal. This is what being arrested means.

The people who do 'i was searched intrusively' yeah they are going to check you aren't smuggling. If you're a guy it's squat and cough minimum, a woman the same and maybe a speculum as well. Blame the people who do smuggle not the people who are there to stop it.

Why do people believe arrest/jail/prison is going to be nice?

[–]JamesBoyle123 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

typical leftist lunatic

[–]truuuuuuuuuck 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I agree with her but I'm not a feminist. I've read too many stories of trans men raping women in women's prisons.

[–]HenryCGk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm tiring to imagine the hubris it takes to think you should make decision for regular people (even if they are ill or you think so) based on the effect to female criminals. And your not a Feminist.

Like criminals who got sentence to prison as a woman in Wales, there aren't even any woman's prisons in the whole country.

[–]truuuuuuuuuck 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm saying men should not be sharing cells in women prisons with females.I don't care how you feel about my opinion which is based on factual news articles I've read. I am very anti trans. I'm anti gay too. So, we will never agree. I am okay with that.

[–]HenryCGk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm anti criminal. And your not saying "you know she has a point on prisons".

Your saying that we should adopt an absolutist policy in all of society because it would lead to about a 6% drop in sex attacks in women's prisons.

And that to me, well it is special pleading, and your a feminist.

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