Feminism approved male issues

PigTenis · 2022-04-17T22:11:41+00:00

Well, of course - men can have issues as long as they can be pinned on patriarchy.

Two birds with one stone - you can dismantle patriarchy and claim to be pro-equality at the same time. It also helps to gather support from vulnerable men -> that bro that was dick to you in high school? Guess what. TOXIC MASCULINITY.

IVIaskerade · 2022-04-17T22:39:59+00:00

All male issues are conveniently caused by exactly the thing feminists are fighting against (trust them, they wouldn't lie to you) and so letting them tear down the foundations of society will definitely benefit you too. Asking how is misogyny, don't do that.

DavidByron2 · 2022-04-18T00:03:25+00:00

All male issues they acknowledge are purely psychological

And they blame men for all of these "issues" of course. So all their supposed compassion is thinly disguised contempt. "Men need to stop being shit and make themselves less shit"

Fearless-File-3625 · 2022-04-17T23:41:04+00:00

All empty talk to make you believe that feminists will working on men's issues. It is just another form of controlling any kind of criticism/opposition to the feminist movement.

regularcomments · 2022-04-18T02:31:50+00:00

My problem with feminism regarding male gender issues is they only offer them self-help, not really help.

Probably because they have an obsession to related every problem women and men could have with their pseudo-science patriarchy theory.

So, in their own "logic", a man is privileged, so they can't have problems related to their gender.

when they realize this is not true, they typically say that "patriarchy" is designed to immediately give advantages to men.

But apparently, the men who created the patriarchy are so dumb that they created problems for themselves in the system that is supposed to benefice them (sarcasm).

Feminism can sound like a movement with good ideas on the surface, but when you do more research about it, you realize is a movement built on a lot of fallacies.

This is not surprising because every political ideology has its own fallacies in a major or minor degree. But I can almost guarantee feminism is one of the most with it.

chrisdidwht · 2022-04-18T02:37:31+00:00

Literally every feminist i argued with told me my issues are my own doing because toxic masculinity. Their struggles however are also systematic because you guessed it Toxic masculinity.

Plus_Independence_31 · 2022-04-18T03:57:21+00:00

Lol dude I was arguing with a feminist about this for two hours and she was BEGGING me for sources, so when I finally linked 3 different ones I haven’t heard from her since and that was this morning.

iainmf · 2022-04-18T04:34:27+00:00

This is why I like to ask feminists who say they care about men, what systemic/governmental things they think should be done to help men. Or what they would do if they had 10 million dollars to help men.

Frosty-Gate-8094 · 2022-04-18T04:47:08+00:00

You know, after browsing through some pro-feminist male advocate pages i finally realised what my problem with them is. All male issues they acknowledge are purely psychological. All of them.

You didn't go deep enough.

Here are some of the male-issues feminist discuss.
-paternity leave.
-men doing less childcare.
-male suicide rates.
-male child abuse.

There are more, along the same lines.

But you can see the pattern here.

Feminists discuss only those men-issues which when solved will either directly or indirectly benefit women (childcare for example) or those they can victim-blame men for. (Like toxic masculinity for suicide).

The other issues they discuss, are where they can blame other men for it. (Child abuse, male murders).

But as soon as the issues, where the blame solely (or predominantly) rests on women, are raised, feminists either downplay them or if they cant, they will shut you down. Or label you 'mysogynist'..
Eg. F on M rape, gender biased conscription, MGM, paternity fraud, unfair divorce laws, etc.

The pattern is that, feminism operates on tge principle that 'men are the oppressors, and women are the victims'.
Any counter-narrative to that (the last para) throws the whole movement off-balance.

Feminism will never fight for men's issues, and by extension for gender-equality.
Everything else is gaslighting and indoctrination

TitanicPat · 2022-04-18T12:49:24+00:00

When men suffer hardships, feminist doctrine blames men (toxicity/fragility etc) And on the other hand, when men enjoy success and achievement, feminist doctrine blames men (patriarchy/privilege)

I'm expecting feminism to start robustly interrogating women's actions and behaviors any day now...

ImpeccableArchitect · 2022-04-18T13:42:58+00:00

The core problem is that men are not defective women, so most feminist theory falls apart right there.

TextDependent6779 · 2022-04-18T00:04:31+00:00

now you've mentioned this, it makes me wonder.

what would the feminist list of valid mens issues look like? like, feminism is 'for men as well' but what issues would they actually recognise?

even when you bring attention to biased courts its "who made these courts" and not the fact there's misandrist judges.

Reddit1984Censorship · 2022-04-17T22:13:30+00:00

Excellent point well said

Turkyindia · 2022-04-18T08:49:39+00:00

Try reversing male genital mutilation through psychological means. You'll never get progress. Though, use the .gov to make it illegal you'll never have to worry about it again

Head-Medium-3007 · 2022-04-18T09:01:11+00:00

There is no such thing as toxic masculinity. Feminists lie and gaslight and don’t care about men.

tenchineuro · 2022-04-18T00:40:57+00:00

All male issues they acknowledge are purely psychological. All of them.

That's not correct, they are all caused by the 'Patriarchy'.

Big red spells that out quite clearly...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a2Umgioia0
WHO IS BIG RED? - The Story of Chanty Binx

Check at about 10:34.

oodatso · 2022-04-18T09:07:52+00:00

Guess what I'm afraid of doing? Taking my daughter to the public park. Karens be calling cops

MainstreamAcceptance · 2022-04-18T09:19:19+00:00

Idk almost all feminists I've talked to agree something should be done about things like conscription, circumcision, rape of boys not being taken seriously and fathers being less likely to get custody of their children. If you look up subs such as r/ askfeminists (am I allowed to link to other subs?) they pretty much agree with men's rights activists about these topics.

tasfa10 · 2022-04-18T00:33:33+00:00

This is from r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates : "We have no objection to the genuinely egalitarian aspects of feminism, but we will criticize feminist ideology wherever it is inegalitarian and/or untruthful, especially now that it holds institutional power." So they are, as I've been defending all MRA should be, opposed to feminism only when there is some particular circumstance in which it unfairly affects men, unlike the "feminism is a hate movement" nonsense that runs rampant on this sub. Here's titles of the first ten posts that show up on their sub:

Being personally attacked for being part of this community
Constantly Vilifying Men Has Consequences
How feminists make arguments rooted in far-right bigotry
Pressure to provide and make money as a man
Female on male violence
Has anyone else noticed misandry in more right leaning men’s right spaces?
I am a libertarian socialist
My thoughts on teaching students about incels
Men are much likely to go to prison then women
Male rape has been getting attention since 2019

None of them fall under the category of "the same basic crap about guys being ashamed to do x because toxic masculinity".

SnooMarzipans5669 · 2022-04-18T21:11:32+00:00

CIRCUMCISION

leachlurker · 2022-04-18T12:30:06+00:00

yeah they'll never talk about giving CAMHS more money or making CAMHS better or changing goverment or anything ):

Title	Feminism approved male issues
Author	Actual-Chicken3624
Upvotes	333
Comments	62
Date	April 17, 2022 10:09 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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