Am I the only one that notices a greater willingness by society to show male nudity in media than female nudity?

Deadlocked02 · 2022-08-30T11:13:22+00:00

I made a similar post a while ago, as I’ve noticed this trend and was tired of people gaslighting me into believing I was crazy for suggesting that male nudity isn’t as rare as they say and that female nudity isn’t as common as it used to. To sum up my points, I think it has to do with:

MeToo and writers/directors who either genuinely buy into the whole thing or are more scared to have nude scenes with actresses than they are with actors, given the current climate.
Male nudity being seen as more comical and less sexual than female nudity. And many productions certainly use this premise to have plenty of male nudity that feels very sexualized and done with the intent of appealing to a female and LGBT audience, if you ask me.
Hollywood realizing that it’s much easier to captivate a consistent female audience with eye candy than managing to keep a steady male audience with hot actresses. This is purely empirical, but from what I’ve seen, hot women and nudity is only a bonus in productions men like, not something that would make them watch a show or movie (maybe it would when pornography wasn’t as accessible as it is today). On the other hand, my female friends and acquaintances seem to be more willing to watch a bad production because there’s a hot man in it.

Let’s also not forget that these people operate with a “rules for thee and not for me” framework. Some of them genuinely believe that female nudity is inherently more degrading and that writers/directors should avoid it, whereas male nudity doesn’t carry the same weight and should be ok. Extremely convenient.

vegano-aureo · 2022-08-30T12:55:06+00:00

Have you seen the new Thor movie. There is a scene where he is stripped in front of thousands while being helplessly chained up. The scene is even in the trailer because you must know that you will get see his himbo bod beforehand.

The scene was humiliating and was only balanced out by the fact that Thor doesn't care if people see him naked. But they sure as shit would have never done this scene with Natalie Portman.

psychosythe · 2022-08-30T14:43:26+00:00

Oftentimes nudity is used to embarrass or emasculate male characters for comedic affect, literally stripping them down and making vulnerable so the audience can laugh at them.

Thor Love and Thunder is a good example of both sexual objectification and demeaning nudity in the trial scene.

Arguesovereverythin · 2022-08-30T12:06:52+00:00

It's not just you. This is happening.

In a world dominated by bigotry disguised as feminism, "equality" becomes synonymous with hurting men the same way they feel they've been hurt.

WeEatBabies · 2022-08-30T14:02:24+00:00

Thor would like a word with you.

Also, remember Endgame, when they went : "This is America's ass!"

Now imagine if they had done that with Black Widow!

RockmanXX · 2022-08-30T07:11:00+00:00

The underlying issue here is the fact that female nudity is hypersexualized in our culture/media, whereas male nudity is De-Sexualized/Normalised. This is why no one has an issue with He Man wearing loincloth but She-Ra has to be fully clothed.

To them, its the gravest insult. (At least when done to women

Because Feminists are always obsessed with Power. Sex Appel is a power and feminists see Women's sex appeal being commodified as some sort of exploitation. Because in their eyes, no Man should profit from a woman's sexuality, even if it is just a guy taking photos. Why do they think that way? Simple, they see Men&Women as groups competing for Power and they want Women to "win".

Cookiecuttermaxy · 2022-08-30T08:49:56+00:00

As a male nudist, I noticed the other extreme of this, people reacting to male nudity with extreme disgust or "shock"

-BATTERY_AZIZ · 2022-08-30T12:41:37+00:00

Outside of porn:

Female nudity in mainstream media = topless

Male nudity = genitals fully exposed

F-um · 2022-08-30T16:58:58+00:00

No, you're not the only one.

In mainstream media, female nudity is less than male nudity.

As a whole, women are shown nude more often than men but this is including the whole of TV and film.

I find it annoying and wish they could just treat everyone fairly.

I think men and women's torsos/chests should be given the same treatment but we're not there yet.

rochesterslim · 2022-08-31T00:22:15+00:00

straight male sexuality is unfairly demonised. it’s horrible.

AskingToFeminists · 2022-08-30T08:33:50+00:00

If so, why is female dignity more important than male dignity?

"male what? I'm sorry, I don't see what you mean" - everything in entertainment these last decades

ALexusOhHaiNyan · 2022-08-30T23:32:57+00:00

This is the interesting thing about current left idealogy. When it’s played through it comes back full circle - like covering up women.

Tesco5799 · 2022-08-30T20:34:01+00:00

Not trying to derail the point of your post OP but tbh the whole ratings system that creates this situation where certain things are allowed and others are not is completely fucked up and in my opinion needs some serious reform. I'm not an expert on it but ultimately the reasons why we see certain kinds of nudity and not others, certain swear words, how violent scenes are shown etc is all to do with ratings. I think the way that they treat violence vs nudity reveals a lot about our society, violence is generally allowed so long as there isn't any blood or gore etc because God forbid someone sees the consequences of shooting someone or stabbing them etc, but nudity is absolutely not allowed aside from R rated movies and HBO, and I think some Netflix stuff

superprawnjustice · 2022-08-30T13:04:42+00:00

Because the same amount of skin is considered more sexual on a woman than it is on a man. You seem to be angry that they'd show men nude. I'm the opposite. The freedom of nonsexual nudity is something I'm always on the lookout for in the media. I see it very occasionally for women, and more often for men. Probably because the ratings differ between the two.

Would be cool if people could just be functionally naked, without having to be sexual. And the media will play a huge role in normalizing it. So in your case, I'd be happy for the dude, and bummed for the girl, since women are further from any sort of nude rights in general.

Pasolini123 · 2022-08-30T17:29:29+00:00

You're not the one :) It's just happening and have even been observed in numerous publications about modern pop culture. But tbh I really don't see it as a problem. Quite the opposite. I think it's liberating, because men finally start to understand they're not "the ugly sex". I don't mean it (only) because I'm gay, but also because the idea of male body being functional and strong but unattractive is quite closely tied to male disposability. Which alongside empathy gap is the root of all evil.

I don't think male advocacy should adopt feminist dogmas and just apply them to men. It doesn't mean it must always question them. But regard them with certain criticism. One of such problematic ideas is the "objectification" theory. It is certainly true when it comes to abuse or potentially abusive "industries" like porn or prostitution. But is it true, that a man who has a pin-up girl poster really treats women as objects? I honestly think it's bullshit and one of the examples, which show that some feminist ideas are a result of the very strange view of male sexuality and men, which has invaded the second wave and probably also the current (4th?) one.

So my problem is not that male nudity is being shown in the movies. But that female nudity is surrounded by neo-puritan taboos and the demonization of male sexuality.

TirsdagsThomas · 2022-08-31T01:12:50+00:00

I think it more has something to do with the female body being sexual and the male body being perceived as more neutral in society. So in a children's show they want to play it safe and not show the woman.

ShoutoutsToSimple · 2022-08-31T14:26:01+00:00

Yep, it's a pretty blatant double standard. People go on and on about sexual objectification of women, but they ignore that men are objectified just as much (if not more now that it's become taboo to appreciate the female form).

I already kind of knew that this was a double standard, and that people were full of shit when they claim that only women are objectified. But it was made very clear to me earlier this year when I did a re-watch of the MCU. When you watch these movies back-to-back, it seems impossible not to notice that you are constantly being presented with buff, shirtless men in shots which are included for the sole purpose of fanservice.

And to be clear, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I've thought this for a while, and it was nice when watching a Youtube video recently in which it was argued that the solution is not to also get rid of male objectification, but to bring back female objectification, because attractive people are nice to look at, and we should feel comfortable appreciating both men and women when they are beautiful. I agree with that completely.

The problem isn't that men are sexually objectified. The problem is that this is so common alongside the attitude that objectification of women is misogyny. The double standard is absurd, and people just need to chill out and learn that it's neat to look at beautiful and sexy people, regardless of gender.

lingdingwhoopy · 2022-08-31T15:19:59+00:00

Eh. In some very mainstream stuff male nudity is being pushed more, sure.

But on TV and in more adult oriented films, boobs are still out everywhere.

And just as an aside, as a film buff, the people who screech about female objectification in entertainment would have a fucking stroke if they ever saw a foreign erotic thriller or sex comedy.

Nudity in foreign cinema is sooooo different than American cinema. It's often very blunt. Just because a beautiful woman is naked on screen, doesn't necessarily mean she's being presented sexually. People don't ever make this distinction. You can tell these perpetually outraged types over boobs and butts are rather media illiterate.

LakiL_ · 2022-08-31T17:52:02+00:00

The male body is dirty and ugly, there's no problem in showing it. Female body is holy, pure, beautiful, perfect. It must be worshipped in it's absence

Richardsnotmyname · 2022-09-01T13:28:44+00:00

I’ll have to disagree on this one. I feel like it’s a show specific thing

Longjumping-Brief585 · 2022-08-31T03:18:01+00:00

Maybe because for a long time and still to this day, the female body has been demonized in both media and real life for simply being.

If a movie decides to depict a naked woman there are always critiques of the lack of modesty and usually an onslaught of sexually charged questions directed at the woman rather than the man, in any press releases.

And to say that media is not depicting the naked female body is still false, if you look at any bigger screening site and search for a movie with a sex scene 9/10 you will see the woman's full breast, butt and sometimes upper/inner thighs; you will rarely see this level of eroticness in Thor or and male lead roles.

And moreso, the "Dorito" shape figure that most men in hollywood attain through intense physical workout and calorie deficits isn't the "ideal masculine form" for women that most men seem to think it is.

bigdtbone · 2022-08-30T20:32:06+00:00

I don’t think so. On any given show or movie you are way more likely to see exposed T&A than a dong.

Title	Am I the only one that notices a greater willingness by society to show male nudity in media than female nudity?
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Date	August 30, 2022 5:34 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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