with all things considered and inexperienced man would do better lying or manipulating a woman

MuchMethod7039 · 2022-12-11T18:26:20+00:00

Don't tell them you're a virgin. Seriously. Unless they seem like they wouldn't care, and are open to virgins, you are exposing too much by stating you're a virgin or that you don't have this experience. Pick what to disclose.

armpitpics · 2022-12-11T17:40:22+00:00

If it's ok to lie about your virginity then it should be ok for women to lie about their n counts. If you want someone to respect you based on a quality that you don't even have then go ahead and lie about it.

Anybody that is confident REGARDLESS of their sexual experience would consider it off limits to stay with a person that needs to be lied to accept you as a partner.

symphonic_dolphin · 2022-12-11T18:14:39+00:00

My partner didn’t care I was a virgin, she gave me an amazing first time and even worked through my nerves giving us a hard time. Though this was in a relationship, not a hook up.

Joyful-Adsorption · 2022-12-11T19:00:09+00:00

As a woman, the only reason I personally was vary of virgins was generally your first real relationship you fall headover heels for the other person, so it is that form of inexperience and not his sexual inexperience which was off putting. To think I might tumble into a very heavy relationship really fast before really getting to know the guy was unnerving, because there is a high chance you might be breaking his heart and breaking up would be really messy. First relationships are very fairy taleish and have unreal expectations, like what you see in romance movies, its very exhausting. A guy revealing he is a virgin is much like he's saying "Watch out, emotionally this is about to get really messy."

You are not obligated to reveal your virginity status. If a girl asks, just make up a number. If you ever want to, you could then tell her the truth. Just like if you asked a girl and she told you she was a virgin, but it turns out she wasn't, you have no basis to be upset.

jojojijo333 · 2022-12-11T18:20:20+00:00

Ok, so I just need to understand how this is happening. So you're basically in your place or hers escalating and then suddenly she asks you if you're a virgin?

ApplesauceThegod · 2022-12-11T20:39:46+00:00

NGL, 26 and virgin sounds rough, whether you're male or female.

I would personally just say 'im inexperienced" or 'I want to take it slow". Rather than 'Ive never had sex'

Philosoferking · 2022-12-11T23:40:09+00:00

For me in the past, girls knew I didn't know what I was doing. They would say I wouldn't don't know to do with her. Which for her was true, because girls like that want aggressive guys who are going to spank her and choke her.

But not every girl needs or wants that. But that's what you have to project competency of, when you interact with certain women. Some of em are freaks.

Girls would say shit to me and I would just freeze not knowing what to say or do. They lost interest fast. And THEY approached me. Not vice versa. I never approached girls.

Some didn't care that I was clearly a life long social outcast. Turns out I was attractive enough eh? Seeing as I had girls hitting on me, and then realizing I was fucked up and moving on.

But the biggest change in my success with women is being able to flirt back and escalate. It can go quick. It can go from zero to sex real fast.

And that's just a special learned thing that I think every guy wants to know. Is that the answer to all this shit?

I don't know. All I know is if she gives it to you, you have to be ready to take it. And if you dont she's just gonna move on.

ApplesauceThegod · 2022-12-11T18:21:54+00:00

I have read so many accounts of a guy finally getting a woman in bed only for that woman too reject him or lose attraction when he states that he's a virgin

So the guy decided to tell on himself in a vulnerable spot and he didn't think it would go poorly? Look if you are going to say you are a virgin then either do it before getting intimate or after, not on the spot. Lying is not the right way to go about it, but not bringing it up unprompted is not lying.

despisedlove2 · 2022-12-11T19:36:02+00:00

Being a virgin isn't a deal killer with girls. If it were, all guys would be virgins forever.

A girl looking for a one night stand may not be very choosy about who her guy is for that night. Then there are women who actually prefer a guy who is more open to direction.

MistyMaisel · 2022-12-12T02:04:23+00:00

Lying is wrong.

Men shouldn't lie.

The efficacy of lying has never been in question. It isn't wrong because it's ineffective. It's wrong because it's unethical, evil, and short sighted.

If you are a liar, your reasons don't matter. Your word is worth less than nothing and when you are found out (which you will be almost inevitably because people who would lie about this would lie about other things), it will ruin the relationship or other relationships with people who hear you talk about being a liar.

It's trashy behavior. And it's extra trashy to do just to get sex.

It's valid to not want sex with a virgin. I got why lots of guys didn't want sex with me when I told them or suddenly slowed waaaaay down. It means a lot and it means emotional entanglement or drama is way more likely. And, it also means they're unlikely to please the lady or be worth a damn between the sheets. So unless it's a relationship, why would they bother putting up with it. Virginity places extra pressure.

And frankly, good on people for recognizing that and not being arses to the uninitiated. Gives you hope about life that people can be gentle, kind, and not just screw people when they know how vulnerable a time they're in.

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gymbro718nyc2 · 2022-12-11T21:44:55+00:00

Lol, dude when are you going to stop inventing problems for yourself. So you are a virgin but you come here and make posts trying to sound like you change women like handkerchiefs.

KlingKlangKing · 2022-12-12T06:01:43+00:00

Ya I don't really see what's the problem when dudes say "It will hinder my chances because women don't like virgins" ummm just lie? Lol

SoldierExcelsior · 2022-12-12T09:05:52+00:00

I guess it depends if you just want meaningless shallow sex sure lie about everything do what ever it takes 🤷🏿. If your looking fir a relationship and a deeper connection I think honesty is the best approach and if they can't handle your truth they aren't the one for you....

Back in the day I used to lie to women all the time then they woul fall for me and break ups would be difficult I only wanted sex but I would tell them anything.Now it's to easy to just pay upfront those days of Game are over...Thess days if dating atcall its becausevim serious and then I'm honest to a fault if she can't accept it bye.

HighestTierMaslow · 2022-12-13T05:01:46+00:00

"Every guy knows that girls do not take virgin Guy seriously even if the girls around him are also virgins and inexperienced"

Go visit a small conservative town and date women at their churches. You will be loved there.

localmicrodosechamp · 2022-12-14T21:14:11+00:00

this is sick

Title	with all things considered and inexperienced man would do better lying or manipulating a woman
Author	ApplesauceThegod
Upvotes	21
Comments	61
Date	December 11, 2022 5:31 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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